I Know this guy, i even know were he lives, because he's my friends uncle one of the guys who came to Somailand with me, Mustafa Dayer, we stayed in his uncles house in Burco right opposite from indedero's house that looks like the jetsons house. It a huge place man, we chewed till 4:00 in the morning and couldnt even shut the front door. loooooooooooool, Africa you gotta love it. Anyways Jacelbaro, you are a hardcore kulmiye supporter man East Burco im assuming. In our part of Somaliland Southern Hargaisa we know Kulmiye as GUDMYIE, the party of the weak, the aragont, the self interested party. Good luck on the next election bro, my money is on UDUB.

Naxar Nugalled, adam smith was a economist the man who created capatilism he was not what we would call a social thinker, he was more about money and markets. But the others are fine chooses, im not a big fan of John Locke the man who inspired the American revelution, primarly because he's views are contradicatory because on the one hand he argues for the right of people to form there own governments if oppressed, yet he condones slavery which is the ultimate form of oppression. The others are fine chooses though, man was born free but everwhere in chains, Roussou (pure f***n genious) Those who say Isaac newton was a genious, loooooool dont make laugh.

Jacaylbro, your mistake is that just because its from Europe it should be looked down on, my arguement is that the basic concept of humans are all the same , wether you are in germany or somaliland you are the same, what has worked for germany if a success can always be replicated. Dont close your mind, people are people and because of this ideals and philosphies have to be studied. Europe studied Islamic philosophy Avarowis, Al andalus and Baghdad and this sparked there Reinassance, We should study western philosophy today, to spark our own renaissance.

Watch the full documentary: The future of ruling the somali people lay in coersion, seperation and distraction were the states create harmony between the peoples. promote something to distract them from clannism, promote business, promote materialism. Destroy the concept of clannism through education,media and all other tools. http://video.google. com/videosearch?q=ne gative+and+positive+ liberty&emb=0&aq=f#q =The+Trap+%5BWHTODOF %3F%5D+We+will+force +you+to+be&emb=0 The future of Somaliland.

Jacaylbaro, this is probably why somali's are the smallest minded people in the world and this is pretty much ultimately why they have destroyed themselves. Europe was the most backward place in the world, with 2 world wars and countless revelutions and instabilities, it was philosophy that got them out of trouble. You can be your own philopsher, but you can learn from yourself, you could only learn from others. God himself said learn. maybe its time we somali's stop taking ourselves so seriously and learn from the mistakes of others.

Berlin, is good because he shows us (somali's) how to live together without interfering in others liberty. Nietzsche, is good because wether it is Somaliland or Somalia all humans go through hardship and this hardship as he argues will only make us stronger. Plato is good because he empowers our individual liberty and corrects the main somali dillema of following the heard, we need to promote individualism, the more individualistic we are the less dangerous the somali plight will become.

I see a lot of people of on Somaliaonline.com who think of themselves as intellectuals always making fun of one another, i have to admit many would put me in that catagory however i just wanted to know what your philosophical beliefs are and by this i dont mean religious beliefs we are all muslims here. But in terms of western philosphical beliefs. I think this would probably answer a lot of questions and show everyones true light. My favorite philosophers, include: The great, Friedrich W. Nietzsche A man who dared to think outside the box and into the unkown, the man who argued that life is about suffering and that you should love hardship because it is this hardship that makes you who you are: (the man who coined the phrase what doesnt kill me makes me stronger). http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=GH2fKa1aZ fQ&feature=fvw Another great: Isiah Berlin The man who got into the root of the human mind and human interaction, he argued that mankind are children and animals and should not be left on there own but must be controlled by the state to protect them from one another. One of my all time favorites: Plato Plato Argued that just because everyone believes in something it doesnt make it right, whats right is the theory you develop and redevelop on your own analysis to the extent that once you have come to your ultimate conclusion it can not be wavered or proven wrong, if it is then redevelop it until you reach the ultimate conclusion.he argued don't be a sheep who follows the heard but believe in what you think is intellectually and morally correct. I think if somali's new anything about these three philosophers they would be unstoppable.

i agree, shaking hands is not an accomplishment, if Somaliland was a recognised country they would do more than shake my hand.

they will end up in puntland protecting the "president" from alshabab fighters as soon as they arrive in garowe. loooool.

Its my contribution...and i think i can contribute what ever i like, if you dont like it report me or don't comment. Im not asking you to comment, it seems you dont want people to see this. because its against your interests.

So keep dancing to the Somali Samba... but don't forget, i forgave you once, i wont again. If you think its bad now you havent seen anything yet.

And this is what they did to my city, the S.O.B.'s even after all of this i still havent even invaded you, i aought to raise every last hut of yours to the ground. I can do it, why not do it, these somaliland passivists really tick me off.

This is is the man who killed somalia:

18 years of lawlessness, no government,no army,no police, no nothing. Is Somalia dead? I say yes.

power curropts....and absolute power corrupts obsolutley. you ask why, because man is a political animal.

i dont agree with that. As a somalilander i know i aint safe in Mugdisho or Bari.

Somali's are cursed with clannism because they use to wonder the desert and migrated from watering hole to another. They were reduced to the lowest common denominator because the family unit and the size of the clan determined how many water holes you controled, more water holes, more land more power. This is so instilled into our DNA that there is no going back, its eatheir we become seperate states or we wipe each other off the face of the map.

looool, the honoust is yes.

Somali's are simple minded people, they think that with one somali flag in borama all of somaliland is crumbling, the dominate flag in borama, is the green white and red.

Isn't Djibouti a somali city, isnt DirDaba a somali city? common people, common sence..!

SOMALI-LAND , ITS A SOMALI CITY, just not in somalia, its in Somaliland. Why is it so hard for some to figure it out.

kelya thanks for the comment, i wonder what led you to that conclusion? loooool. With a name like kelya xarif, how can you critisize someone else, if you disagree with my views, its fair but slandering for the sake of just shows your immaturity.

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Ololihii doorashooyinka ee xisbiga Udub oo ka bilaabmay Boorama, daawo sawirada Written by Saylac Aug 04, 2009 at 11:51 AM Borama(Saylac.com)-F agaaraha Kheyriyada Borama waxaa ka bilaabmay saaka ololaha doorashooyinka Somaliland oo lagu balansan yahay 29 September 2009 la qabto. Bulshada qeybaheeda kala duwan ayaa iskugu yimid fagaaraha kheyriyada ee magaalada Borama, waxaana kasoo qeyb galay Guddoomiyaha G/Awdal, Maayarka Borama, Guddoomiyaha cusub ee xisbiga Udub ee gobalka Awdal Cabdicasiis Cismaan Raage, Guddoomiye K/xigeen Barkhad Cumar Xaaji Kheyre iyo Xoghayaha Cabdiraxmaan Maxamed Cumar. Waxaana ugu horayn lagu furay sidii caadada ahayd aayadaha Quraanka kariimka ah , waxaa ugu horay halkaasi laga jeediya gabay ay dadku si aada ula dhaceen oo aad logu amaanay xisbiga UDUB iy waliba madaxwayne Rayaale. C/raxmaan Shide Bile Maayarka Borama oo xaflada furay waxuuna ka hadlay hay'ada Interpeace oo ku tilmaamay mid waday khiyaamo qaran , waxaana uu yidhi isago hadalkiisii siiwata markaanu dastuurka qaran iyo komishanka qaran go'aankii ay soo saaren eek u sahabsanaa ololaha dooraqsha in labilaabo shalayto oo ay bishu ahayd 03/08/09 ahna mid waajib ah ,taasina waxaa halkiisii kasoo bixi waayay xisbiga kulmiye oo diiday, waana dad aan doonayn doorasho xalaal ah iyo in wadnku galo qas. Xaflada ayaa si wanaagsan kusoo gab-gabowday waxaana si weyn ugu muuqday Guddoomiyaha cusub ee xisbiga UDUB ee gobalka Awda Cabdicasiis Cismaan Raage oo dar-dar xoogan lasoo kala baxay kaasoo taageeraaya Xisbigaan ee gobalada Awda iyo Salal aad ugu amaaneen mudada gaaban ee xilka uu hayay iyo howsha uu qabtay. http://www.qarannews .com/index.php?optio n=com_content&task=v iew&id=5458&Itemid=6 2 Last Updated ( Aug 04, 2009 at 12:25 PM )