NGONGE;685218 wrote: To say that there is room for foul play is not to present much of an argument, saaxib. Does this "room for foul play" mean that Holloywood has an agenda or does it not. Norf is saying it does. I am saying prove it. Simples (as the famous Meerkat says; then again, there is some brain washing going on there about Roman Abramovish and his toying with Chelsea....or something). NGONGE I highly recommend watching this, the full doco if you can please, I think everyone should watch it. Full Version is available at thier website. Then watch this clip from Bill Maher and Ben Afflick.

I havent been back here for awhile and honestly I have had my share in reading a lot of threads by A&T, and I have to say A&T would have to be the funniest fella around here. Mr. Somali you should take it easy with the insults =) A&T is a one of a kind. You have my support my good friend. The misplaced smile line had me rofl.

BOSSASO, Somalia Mar 30 (Garowe Online) - The president of Somalia's Puntland regional autonomy has defended federalism as the 'only option' for peace in the Horn of Africa country, while dismissing a recent report by a major French news agency as 'baseless,' Radio Garowe reports. Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed "Farole," the president of Puntland, told Radio Garowe during a Sunday interview that a recent trip to Ethiopia and Djibouti was successful. "Discussions with neighboring countries [Ethiopia and Djibouti] included issues like regional security and efforts to restore a national government in Somalia," President Farole said. He warned strongly against the use of the phrase 'Government of National Unity,' arguing that the phrase throws into question the 2004 Federal Charter signed by Somali factions in Nairobi, Kenya, where the Transitional Federal Government (TFG) was established. Puntland President Abdirahman Farole "Our position is that nothing but a federal system can ever happen [in Somalia]. Anything else will not bring peace. It [federalism] is also the only way to convince Somaliland against independence," the Puntland leader said. 'Baseless report' President Farole accused Agence France Press (AFP), an internationally respected news agency, of publishing a "baseless report" claiming that foreign fighters are based in Garowe, the capital of Puntland. "They [AFP] interviewed a warlord, who said that 450 foreign fighters linked to so-called terror groups travel through Somaliland and have a major base in Garowe," President Farole said, adding that such a report is "intended to benefit some and damage others." The AFP report, dated March 29, caused outrage across Puntland after claiming that non-Somali fighters linked to Islamist factions maintain a major base in Garowe, a regional capital renowned for years of relative tranquility. PRESS RELEASE: Puntland Government Rebukes AFP Report In January, Garowe was the political base where Puntland's elite – including politicians, business leaders and traditional elders – gathered for the peaceful completion of a three-month election campaign which brought to power President Farole as the regional authority's fourth president. "There are many people who are Somalis who are unhappy with the existence of Puntland, its security, its future and the peaceful way the election was conducted," President Farole said, adding: "We warn the natives of Puntland to be wary of such people. And to the troublemakers, we say we are not your enemy." Improving security Puntland's leader said the new government has spent massive resources on improving security, but admitted that clan fighting has occupied the government's time and resources. "The government's strength and funds is spent on stopping clan fighting, instead of improving general security," President Farole said, while referring to warring clans in Puntland's rural area. He expressed regret at the loss of life following an incident in the port city of Bossaso, where Puntland Intelligence Service (PIS) soldiers arrested a local cleric last week, sparking riots. "Puntland security is the responsibility of security forces paid by the Puntland government. There are other security agencies, who are paid from elsewhere," President Farole added ambiguously. The PIS has secretive ties to Western intelligence agencies, especially the American CIA, with widespread reports indicating that PIS soldiers are paid, trained and equipped by the CIA. President Farole said the loss of life was "unfortunate" during the Mar. 23 incident, but indicated that a committee was set up to report on the incident. Further, the arrested cleric, Sheikh Osman Shire, was transferred from the PIS over to Puntland's local police force where he is currently under investigation. READ: 2 killed in Puntland riot sparked by cleric's arrest But the Puntland leader had tough words for the rioters, saying that the "majority" of people who participated during the Bossaso riot "came from regions outside Puntland." "The Internally Displaced Peoples [iDPs] were welcomed to Puntland, allowed to live and work, but they have brought negative practices such as insecurity, because most rioters were not Puntland natives," President Farole told Radio Garowe, while indicating that the IDPs situation has been discussed with the United Nations. Speaking about the drought, the Puntland leader called on all parties, especially the business community, to provide "collective assistance" to nomad families hard-hit by the drought in some regions. Source: Garowe Online

Is this guy for real? Who are the sources... Crazy stuff I have to admit, Why would this website publish this mans rant?. "Printing money in his garowe office" LOL.

Wow I have to admit that airport looks well made - Congrats to the guys behind the construction/design. We will get there guys, don't worry. We will have our country back and live peacefully soon =)

^^^ I know for a fact, that its false. What makes you think it isnt?

UN, international NGOs conclude conference with Puntland govt GAROWE, Somalia Feb 19 (Garowe Online) - A big delegation composed of United Nations officers and members of the international non-governmental organizations (NGOs) concluded Thursday in Puntland, a self-governing region in northeast Somalia, Radio Garowe reports. The two-day conference had the theme of "Re-engaging with the International Community" and was held at the Puntland Research and Development Center (PDRC) compound in Garowe, the capital of Puntland Wednesday's discussions focused primarily on security, a critical factor that has impeded international aid staff from operating regularly in Puntland. On Thursday, discussions were tackled one issue at a time, including the democratization process and public finance management. Puntland Finance Minister Farah Ali Jama said the regional authority is currently updating government data and establishing "necessary mechanisms" to ensure proper tax collection and to fight against corruption. He assured the 20-member foreign delegation that the new administration led by Puntland President Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed "Farole" is taking immediate steps to identify errors in public finance management, while citing the fact that government employees have already been paid for the month of January. Dr. Abdi Hassan Jum'ale, Puntland's state minister for democratization process, indicated that a constitutional review is underway and that President Farole – who was elected on Jan. 8 – is "committed to continuing the democratization process." He indicated that many concerns linger regarding Puntland's new constitution, including questions regarding a multi-party political system and whether or not to adopt a unicameral or bicameral parliament. Dr. Farole, Puntland's new president, told the visiting delegation that "balancing the budget" is key to restructuring the region's financial management system. He addressed the issue of inflation, saying that the "illegal printing of banknotes" has created an unstable monetary atmosphere and led to uncontrollable hyperinflation, while calling for international expertise in helping Puntland design a better financial management system. Puntland's leader said the region does not receive its fair share of donations from the international community, saying: "Puntland received only 2% of WFP [World Food Program] assistance destined for Somalia." He encouraged more international support in helping Puntland build and repair schools, hospitals and roads. He made special note of remote towns in Bari and Sanaag regions that are "only accessible by sea" due to the mountainous terrain. Mr. Mark Bowden, the UN's Humanitarian Coordinator for Somalia, offered a lengthy overview of the two-day conference and the open discussions. He repeatedly linked security to development and to humanitarian assistance, saying: "Re-engagement depends on progress [in Puntland]." Kidnapping and other forms of insecurity remain a "real threat" to international aid staff, Mr. Bowden added. He said he was encouraged by the Farole administration's efforts to improve security in main towns, but noted that much more needs to be done, including "separation of police from militia." Mr. Bowden spoke about "decentralizing power" as a means of strengthening the government's domestic reach. He pledged that the UN will assist Puntland with infrastructure development. The foreign delegation, which included UN officers, CARE International, Mercy Corps, Islamic Relief, NRC and DRC, flew safely out of Garowe and returned to regional offices in Nairobi, Kenya. Source: Garowe Online

GAROWE, Somalia Feb 18 (Garowe Online) - A massive delegation composed of various components of the international community arrived in Somalia's self-governing State of Puntland Wednesday, beginning a two-day conference with the theme of "Re-engaging the International Community," Radio Garowe reports. The 20-member foreign delegation included representatives from United Nations agencies, the World Bank, the European Commission, Islamic Relief, Mercy Corps, Care International, and the French Embassy, as well as international NGOs such as DRC and NRC. Dr. Abdirahman Mohamed "Farole," the president of Puntland, was present at the meeting along with the Vice President, Gen. Abdisamad Ali Shire, and most members of the Puntland Cabinet. After opening remarks, President Farole offered a presentation that included a comprehensive look at the new administration's policy in matters ranging from security to social services. A vision statement at the beginning of the presentation offered a general view of President Farole's plans to tackle insecurity, advance public finance management, reform the civil service and promote good relations with the world community, especially with the region's neighbors. Puntland's new leader spoke at length about "urgent priorities," including fighting piracy and human smuggling, improving public services in the fields of education, healthcare and sanitation, improving public finance management and advancing the ongoing democratization process. He made special note about the "illegal unregulated and unreported fishing" activities along Somalia's coast, which has contributed to a spike in piracy as Somali fishermen took up arms to defend their livelihoods. "The international community's military effort to combat piracy cannot stop the problem...what is needed is more cooperation between Puntland and the international community," the Puntland president said. President Farole strongly suggested that the world must first address the "root causes of piracy," including illegal overfishing and toxic waste dumping, while noting that Puntland has 70 alleged pirates currently in custody and plans to establish an "anti-piracy center" in the region. 'Neglected' Mark Bowden, the UN Resident Humanitarian Coordinator for Somalia, spoke on behalf of the visiting delegation by first congratulating Puntland's new government on a peaceful and orderly election. He welcomed President Farole's presentation, calling it a "compelling statement" on the new administration's vision for a better and more secure Puntland. Mr. Bowden specially welcomed the Puntland leader's comments regarding the democratization process, while highlighting President Farole's appointment of a state minister to oversee the democratization process. "Puntland has been neglected by the international community," Mr. Bowden admitted. He later told Garowe Online after the conference that aid operations in Puntland decreased due to acts of insecurity in recent months, including kidnappings of international aid staff. He said the new government in Puntland has already taken "confidence-building measures," such as outlawing guns in major towns, banning tinted windows on cars and fighting against impunity by holding criminals accountable to the justice system. 'Anti-terror' A question and answer session was opened following President Farole's presentation and UN Humanitarian Coordinator Bowden's response. A comment posed by the UN's chief security adviser in Somalia, Mr. Jean Lausberg, suggested that the government of Puntland institute a "counter-terrorism law," which would specifically deal with tackling acts of terror in the region through a legal framework. The suggestion cited the Oct. 29, 2008, suicide bombings in Bossaso, which targeted the offices of the Puntland Intelligence Service (PIS) and UN offices in Hargeisa, capital of the separatist republic of Somaliland. President Farole clearly stated that the Puntland government will not institute a special law to combat counter-terrorism, saying: "Counter-terrorism has negative connotation in this part of the world as it reminds people of Guantanamo Bay [prison]. But it is our promise to combat all forms of insecurity and all crimes in one way." Puntland's leader said the administration is raising awareness about improving security, while citing sermons he gave during Friday prayers at mosques in the port city of Bossaso and Garowe, the capital of Puntland, to inform the public about Islamic principles of peace and lawful governance. Discussions are scheduled to continue on Thursday, where major topics including public finance management, economic development, improving social services and strengthening the democratization process, government officials said. The visiting delegation is reported to be the largest delegation to visit Puntland since the regional authority was established in 1998. Source: Garowe Online

Sorry he is a PHD candidate, my mistake. On another note, what is the deal with [Waranle]?, he writes like a 12 year old, but brags about studying at many universities around the world. Abstract international data base contains no "reported degree" for Mr. ****ole, yalaxow or Cambaro. This is very shameful, using academic titles that you did not earn don't you think? Are you serious?... If you really were educated at all you wouldn't be starting threads like these questioning other individuals titles/credentials. I have noticed that you are personally attacking Farole in a number of different threads, just curious, have you met him in person? What is the deal there? The guy was just voted in office so relax and give him some time. And please do yourself/us a favor buddy, and focus more on productive topics, I am sure with the number of degrees you have, you can come up with something.

Originally posted by [Waranle]: I know Dr. Sharmarke is not a doctor of anything- not even a witchdoctor(honourary or not). He has a master's degree in political science (the least prestigious field in the social sciences). Abstract international data base contains no "reported degree" for Mr. ****ole, yalaxow or Cambaro. This is very shameful, using academic titles that you did not earn don't you think? Farole is a graduate of Somali National University, State University of New York at Albany, International Statistical Institute of Beirut and La Trobe University. He worked as a senior officer/manager of major branches in Hargeisa and Berbera, and as a senior auditor/divisional manager of foreign and international departments at the now-defunct Somali Central Bank, as well as a director general at the Commercial & Savings Bank from 1970 to 1986 Education and Training History 2006 - PhD – Development of Somali Financial Institutions in historical perspective (La Trobe University, Australia) 2005 - BA Major in Politics (La Trobe University, Australia) 1990 - M.B.A. – Major in Financial Management (Somali National University-SOMTAD / State University of New York, Albany USA) 1985 - Bachelor of Commerce – Economics and Commerce (National University, Mogadishu, Somalia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdirahman_Mohamud_Fa role

What history Burn Notice? Please post some facts, and not what your uncle told you. I'm astounded by the word corrupt and money laundering accusations.

Originally posted by Emperor: GT, you are correct in both parts of you comment... General Ilkajiir's momentum was running high and his victory was already in the mind of every Puntlander until Yusuf Yey publicly supported him... its got him into trouble is seems. Also we are getting the report that all of SOOL's votes went to Faroole because they wanted to preserve the vice presidency position to their base in which if Ilkajiir won will be in dashes.. Xiinow ineer how are you to suggest this had some clanish input, do you really think they pick Faroole purely because of being the clan and not those who are of the same clan and better than Faroole. All in all, it seems Faroole paid money and bought the votes, this man had a lot money and stayed in Garoowe the home of Puntland parliament for long while kept a low profile... He humiliated not only Ilkajiir but all the candidates put together including the former President Ade Muse, he's collected 25 votes in the first round alone, that to me ninka quwad ayuu usheegtay nimanka ee wax qabiil ah shuqul kuma lahan. Ninkaan hadii marki hore uu 4 am 6 heli lahaa kadibna loogu wada shubi lahaa ayaa la oran kari lahaa waa loo afaara qabiileeyay.. laakiin C'mon if you can get 25 votes out of the 65 in the first round, thats something... Puntland's hope is in tatters, ilaahay ninkaan hanoo soo wanaajiyo corruption-kiisa iyo his money laudering ilahay hanaga qabto... Corruption, money laundering?? Emperor, where do you get your information buddy? Your posts are a little concerning. Peace.

Originally posted by Capo: Wasn't faroole the worst candidate? Corrupt Perverse And actually declared Puntland entity to be "dead" after his sacking. And actually lead a militia against the parliament that was making a vote of no confidence in him and his budget? Ah but he was the best candidate. Brother, where did you get Corrupt/Perverse and leading militia against the parliament?. If you do more research and speak to the right people you will learn he was never involved with the parliament incident, if he was, he would have never won this election. Furthermore he is but corrupt, when his full bio comes out soon, you will read that he was once fired from his position as head of the Somali Bank in Mogadishu in the Said Barre era, because he refused requests/pressure from the government regarding appointing positions (nepotism) and stealing/laundering money unlawfully. He is still true to himself even today, if you have been following the Range Resources Oil affair. Lets not discredit this man foolishly, he was just elected. I believe he will make some great changes in the area that will benefit the people in long run. And regarding that last article you have just posted...You only need to read the difference in his essay on Farole to Nuradin A Dirie, who hails from Mudug.

A word of advice guys, we have some users on this same topic who actually own some shares in Range Resources(don't rule out any non-Somali's as well). Perhaps if you are interested, just do a search on Range Resources on this forum if you want some shocking information regarding the company and how disgusting the whole deal was.

Not a great title, nevertheless, It is a great read. ------------------------------------------------- Analysis: Somalia - Better Off as an Island? By Glenn Brigaldino Fahamu Fahamu (Oxford) The UIC has extended its authority to other areas of southern Somalia. Consequently, this has led to a sharp increase in the number of refugees entering Kenya. Glenn Brigaldino describes Somalia as a state that only exists on paper, including maps. "It is most favourably described as a desolate and impoverished place, where a traditional society wildly fragmented along clan allegiances struggles to secure a livelihood." One evening in early 1988, my Ugandan friend Samuel Opondo and I were sitting on the porch of my house in Hargeisa, Somalia. "You know what�" he started, "�this place is not Africa. I will cut it off from my map of Africa and push it into the ocean." It hardly seemed like an odd idea, especially as African expatriates in Somalia were frequently irritated at being called "African" by average Somalis, who seemed to consider themselves above non-Muslim Africans, especially if these were noticeably dark-skinned. It struck me as an ignorant behavior, given that so many Somalis were illiterate, could perhaps recite but hardly read the Koran and in their daily lives, often appeared to be Muslim only in name. Today, Sam's paper exercise may well have genuine merit as an analytical insight, notably his reflective after-thought that "�by the time Somalis are ready for this century, we will be well into the 21st." We all know that Somalia in 2006 is a state only on paper, including maps. It is most favourably described as a desolate and impoverished place, where a traditional society wildly fragmented along clan allegiances struggles to secure a livelihood. To most political observers, it is a violent and unwelcoming semi-desert zone, of obscure "strategic interest" where perpetual clan disputes and warlordism reign on the remnants of a failed state. At the best of times, life in Somalia was hard and troublesome. As these times slipped into decades of misrule and anarchy, an entire generation has grown up with no exposure to notions of social order and development. Instead, they are embedded and often partaking in the break-up of whatever social order exists and accustomed to a seemingly natural state of perpetual clan rivalries, political violence, human tragedy and socioeconomic collapse. In a recent article for Towardfreedom, an independent online source for democratic debate, I have explored in some detail the current political context in Somalia from an international perspective. The situation remains in flux. Although the US-backed warlords are no longer "calling the shots", the quest for political control is far from resolved. It seems only a question of time until the now dominant Union of Islamic Courts (UIC), led by Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, and the Transitional Federal Government (TFG), based in the town of Baidoa of interim President Abdullahi Yusuf begin to battle it out for sole control. External players continue to sponsor their preferred Somali ally: Eritrea and Arab countries siding with and delivering weapons to the UIC, the authoritarian Ethiopian regime of Meles Zenawi backing the TFG, including with troop deployments inside of Somalia, with unofficial, tacit support of its US pay-master. It seems only a matter of time until outright war will break out between the two opposite factions, regardless of periodic peace-talks in Sudan and talk of an African Union peacekeeping force. While the prospect of such a conflict is deeply troubling, most analysts would be at a loss to formulate any peaceful and democratic scenario in a country that is no more, perhaps never was and in any case, consists of an entire population marred by decades of political violence, poverty and social erosion. At best, only half-informed guesses as to what future lays ahead for the today's young generation in Somalia are possible. Kids in Somalia have little opportunity for carefree play and when they do play, they do so without many toys. While in most places in the world, the importance of play and stimulating toys is acknowledged as an important factor in child development, Somali children tend to have few such toys available to them. There are of course creative assembled self-made toys, as made by children in around the world where investment in kids tends to be an alien concept or considered a secondary need, at best. In the Somali-context, successive generations of parents have grown up in similar conditions, where attention to early-childhood development is virtually non-existent. Where resources are meager, in the absence of the necessary social stability to allow for continuous years of formal education and under conditions of protracted gender inequality, investment into the future well-being of child becomes an afterthought. It should come as little surprise that kids emerging as youths from such circumstances, are readily available to be recruited into the omnipresent clan, gang, and/or militia-groupings and associations that have flourished in Somalia. It is hard to imagine many ordinary Somalis making a decent living from farming, handicrafts, trading or animal herding. The take over of Mogadishu by the hardline Islamists of the UIC has perhaps done just that to the population living under their rule: for the first time in living memory, social and political order seems a realistic proposition. It would seem that not all has been bad since the UIC has taken over, indeed they have moved in remarkable ways to re-establish a degree of normality that is a new experience for many Somalis. Random acts of robbery; extortion and petty crimes have decreased. The once infamous piracy business off the Somali coast, that repeatedly caught international attention, has been quelled. In late August the first commercial ship in over a decade called port in Mogadishu. The airport has been re-opened: another vital supply route for a starved country and a new regime in need of links to foreign supporters (although at least two of the arriving planes have been unmarked, most likely carrying weapons for the UIC from Eritrea). The export of charcoal has been forbidden, a move that would please any environmentalist as would theban on capturing and selling birds of prey to Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Reportedly wealthy expatriate Somali businessmen (probably not many women though) have descended on Nairobi, Kenya, where they hope to set up and conduct new business deals with merchants in Mogadishu. Of course, a surge of inflows of external supplies, notably food-aid relief can quickly rekindle a "refugee economy" as during the 1980s. At that time, Somali received aid for a highly inflated number of refugees, easily 40% above actual numbers. In a country of only 7 million, that aid translated into a sizeable portion of GDI, and combined with "regular" aid accounted perhaps for half of the entire Somalia's GDI. In the cold war context of the time, donors knew this but chose not to ask too much. But if only there were not that infamous "price to pay", which has already taken its toll on many. Public executions have been organized, also open for kids to attend. Suspicion of foreigners is deep-rooted and the shooting deaths of a catholic nun and an international journalist are unlikely to be the last. The ban on Khat chewing, the narcotic drug so many Somali men seem to be unable to do without, has been banned, at least during the Ramadan period, a hard to enforce measure that has already sparked some protests. Women are now being further relegated to the stone ages (some are already all veiled-up, apparently quite willingly so), and working for foreign NGOs is now heavily frowned upon. Political violence has certainly not ceased, but is now far less rampant and visible. Then there is the repeated claim that in the UIC controlled parts of Somalia, training camps for Jihad recruits are being established. This is a hard to verify claim, and difficult to distinguish from planted US propaganda. But it does seem to be true that many of the defeated former militia members are being "re-educated" in camps outside of Mogadishu. Who can tell how far such re-education goes? The most fervent trainees may well be those who raise their hands first when presented with an option to join obscure groupings that could also be linked to Al-Qaeda. Who knows? It is suggested that the current situation in Somalia, is in large part the result of US-efforts to supposedly quell the rise exactly of this kind of situation. A "CIA coup in Somalia" is said to have occurred, in the sense that "a major policy blunder by the United States opened the way for the UIC to seize power. �(as) the CIA saw Somalia as a potential Afghanistan." It should come as little surprise then that support for the UIC has deepened, not least as the scores of mostly young Somali men with no recollection of living in a peaceful and productive society are readily enticed to fight for anything that resembles a meaningful cause. To them, joining militias is the only livelihood that provides any sense of security and income. The last engineer to graduate from what was once called the university of Mogadishu, must have done so nearly 20 years ago, and if not dead or in a militia himself (female Somali engineers would have been most unusual then) lives and works in Europe or maybe the US. The only thing usual in Somalia in living memory is the fragility of life and the constant risk of and submersion into repeated and ongoing humanitarian crises. In a recent interview, UNICEF Somalia representative Christian Balslev-Olesen noted that Somalia has become the "optimum" breeding ground for extremism because levels of malnutrition and education are among the worst in the world. He went on to say "If you have generations and generations out of school�we should not be surprised there is extremism in Somalia�" As the internally driven and externally fuelled violence in Somalia continues to prevent any semblance of normality from taking hold, a new generation of Somalis is growing up in the midst of the previous social and political rubble. When reading the International Crisis Groups' well-researched and detailed account of the Somali political crisis with its countless clan facets and regional dimensions, I cannot help thinking that the report's title "Can the Somali Crisis be Contained?" is merely a rhetorical question. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened to Somalia, had it been somehow possible to implement Samuel Opondo's idea of cutting it off the Africa map and letting drift into the Indian Ocean. Once freed of the Siad Barre dictatorship, would Somalis have had the time and firmness of mind to find their own path to stability and peace? Perhaps Somalia today would be an agreeable island in a calm sea where grown-ups share poems and kids run and play along the beach after school? Too good to be true, I know. Glenn Brigaldino A social scientist and specialist in development cooperation, he has lived and worked in Europe and Africa, as well as Asia. Now based in Ottawa, he runs a small consulting firm (GB-BASE) that provides advisory and management services in development cooperation and policy management. Much of his writing relates to international affairs, with occasional attempts at fiction.

Woow, well he has my support.

I always thought of setting up a donation system through SOL, for the purpose of using it for projects inside Somalia, with all the paperwork and feedback on how it could be implemented with transparent results etc Perhapes its just a dream.

Just thought I would say hi to everyone, interesting thread.

Perhapes go down to the flight center and book ourselves some tickets to visit the country and see what we can do there? I hear everyone is waiting for the educated diaspores to coordinated a direction to bring about effective change. Perhapes we are the generation that should return and do just that. Am I alone in suggesting this?

Regardless of which region our parents have come from, we will support the Courts and unite. Everyone is tired, and no-one wants another war. We need some serious rules before these goons (TFG), exploit our country any further. However, General Duke shall receive his whipping, soon enough, when the courts march into town. I for one support the Courts, thats one Puntlanders vote you got there

Those are historic images AbuJamal, I hope these news organistaions keep backups of those images, the watermarks (if at all) are quite frankly out of hand. Look at that Last Horn of Afrik image.

Thank you Faarax, I really needed that On another note: I should get going, I need to move, find an apartment find a fiance' and get married. From those dates 23 isn't far off.

I see Conspiracy is taking some entrepreneurship steps. I guess everyone has thier own little ideas, but are perhapes keeping it to themselves. Anyway, perhapes start a photo blog for the somali community. Just an idea Good luck.

Iam sure the link is working Maf Kees??...Correct me if I'm wrong:

Thanks Valenteenah, Regarding the location: Torquay - (Just 22km south of Victoria’s second city Geelong Australia) I will try and post some more pictures once we get some judges going - Good luck.