Bambina, Happened with me a lot in somali chat rooms, I have female nick in chat rooms but my profile says I am Male , so what I found is people before they ask u any thing they check ur profile and some went as far telling me why I am using girl's nick since my profile says I am male!.About insulting part ... girl even if u tell them u r a girl but u don't want to private chat they still insult u .For me I don't care person I am chatting with whatever male or female, I don't even bother to ask them ...lol. Girl, cheer, I loved ur topic Salam

Pearl and J_11 said all. I would add that IF Persian stop hatting on Arab that time I will stop hatting on Ethiopian ( somali/Arab people will understand what I mean). And those talking about moslim things pleaseeeee give me a break!!! and look at my nick name and give me one reason to even stop hatting on them!!!.they took my land killed my grand fathers, uncles , still keep calling us terrorists coz we want our land back and have freedom like every humanbeen in this world!. Salaam

MQ, I think X answered all . I just would like to add If u like the guy u know how to get his attention with out telling him any thing , come on girl u aint that innocent Bambina, u r brave LIL CUTE, sister u r rude, Hatter salam

I would love expensive glasses since we have strong Sun salam

That kind of debate I wish to see moslims debade with none moslims and give them some logical to get the point. Masha Allah. Kynda thanx sweetyy, I really learned some thing new to argue..Ooops I meant to debade Ameen Ya rab. Salam

lool@ My OG_Moti , this is ur chance to spy on me dee lol@rudy , hishood bal . Salam

lol@Moti, atleast u spell it right unlike some people salam

Bulo, thanks sister . seems his manhood pride took over him and he doesn't want to admit. Salafi, first and foremost I believe in the Quraan 100%. And I see at as a guideline from Allah (SWT) to his people, it is Universal and Islam is the ideal way of life. Allah (SWT) was, has and will ever BE kind and fair to his people, His decree does not favour one from the other whether difference in colour or sex or otherwise. Talking about Islam with out understanding doesn't take us any where ( u see how moslims r). In the matter we are arguing now I see your interpratation as not the clear reflection, but as one which is commonly used by Men who want to manipulate the rights of the opposite sex. We could keep on arguing and never come to a mutual consent, cause for me though I see Pologamy as permisable in Islam it has and come with condition that safeguard the rights of women in Islam. While you on the other hand have taken the point only where it is said that it is permitted and disregarded the conditions attached therefore denying the rights of the very people your are to be protecting. What u saying as sister bulo already pointed where is justice for woman??!!If she doesn't want to be with him after he married other woman, so she have no other right?hmm some how doesn't click!!. salam salam

Salafi, don't run now... read what u replied to me last time. plus sister Bulo did the job and more too...that issue i will leave to her. But I am discussing with u that what ever Polygamy is with out regulation or not!!.. so stop making Islam look bad an unjustice coz Islam only Religion gave woman more rights than any law written plus. by the way since bulo doing the job I just add one thing since i am Share'a (Islamic Law) student In kuwait is allowed woman ask divorce if she doesn't want be to remind his wife after he marry another. All I am saying provide logic reasons or stop making Islam look bad. Salam

Salafi , seems u just hear what u saying , read cerfully what I am saying: Polygamy was practiced, often without limitations nor regulations , in almost all cultures. It was sanctioned by various religions, and practiced, both before Islam, and for many centuries thereafter. The Mormons presently practice it - though secretly. Christian missionaries, in Africa and other areas, where polygamy is a social necessity, also allow it. BUT, Qur'an permits limited polygyny As I mentioned earlier, Qur'an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says 'marry only one'. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur'an: 'Marry woman of your choice in twos' threes' or fours' but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, (with them), then only one' [Al-Qur'an 4:3] Before the Qur'an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals with them justly. In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says: 'It is very difficult to be just and fair between women'. [Al-Qur'an (4:129)] Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to marry more than one wife. So, Islam is only religion but limited up to 4 wivies and put rules and regulation for Polygamy. PS: Prophet (peace be upon) did not Polygamy for 25 years before he Polygamy!. Islam neither invented polygamy (for it had been in existence for centuries before the inception of Islam), nor did it abolish it, for there existed no other solution of certain social problems. Islam only reformed this ancient custom. We all know that the Prophet(PBO), during the last ten years of his life, that is, during the period of his stay in Madina, married several women. This was a period of Islamic wars and at that time the number of women, who had nobody to look after them, was quite large. Most of the wives of the Prophet were widowed and aged. Several of them had children by their former husbands. Hope u read what I meant. salam

sis bulo , well said I have nothing to add what u said, well said. So X-Q its funny when people use that line....oh people married more then one wife cause of the war...bla bla bla...no men...bla bla bla...Actually they marry more then one wife cause Allah said so! simple as that. First of all, you should know that the general norm in Islam is monogamy and not polygamy. Also, the position of Islam towards polygamy is that it is neither mandatory nor encouraged, but merely permitted. More importantly, the permission to practice polygamy is associated with compassion towards widows and orphans, and is not associated with mere sexual satisfaction. Allah says: "If ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one, or (a captive) that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice". Surah 4 Verse 3. The verse which allows polygamy “was revealed after the battle of Uhud in which many Muslims were killed, leaving widows and orphans for whom due care was incumbent upon the Muslim survivors. From this verse a number of facts are evident: That polygamy is neither mandatory, nor encouraged, but merely permitted. That the permission to practice polygamy is not associated with mere satisfaction of passion. It is rather associated with compassion toward widows and orphans, a matter that is confirmed by the atmosphere in which the verse was revealed. That even in such a situation, the permission is far more restricted than the normal practice. This verse, when combined with another verse in the same chapter, shows some discouragement of such plural marriages. The other verse plainly states: “You are never able to be fair and just as between women even if it is your ardent desire…” This verse, when combined with another verse in the same chapter, shows some discouragement of such plural marriages. The other verse plainly states: “You are never able to be fair and just as between women even if it is your ardent desire…”(Qur’an 4: 129) The requirement of justice rules out the fantasy that man can “own as any as he pleases.” It also rules out the concept of “secondary wife,” for all wives have exactly the same status and are entitled to identical rights and claims over their husband. It also implies, according to the Islamic Law, that should the husband fail to provide enough support for any of his wives, she can go to the court and ask for a divorce. She can also ask for a divorce if there is evidence of mistreatment or injustice inflicted. So, wallalo, think about none moslims always look some thing to catch in our religion give them right realistic reasons before u just say " Allah said as simple as that"!!!! salam

Ameen ya kynda salam

Well, I did not read what people post but I am going with original poster and here my 2cents: It is evident that the association of "polygamy" with Islam is not only unfair or biased but based on a serious misunderstanding. Polygamy was practiced, often without limitations nor regulations , in almost all cultures. It was sanctioned by various religions, and practiced, both before Islam, and for many centuries thereafter. The Mormons presently practice it - though secretly. Christian missionaries, in Africa and other areas, where polygamy is a social necessity, also allow it. It is both, honest and accurate, to say that it was Islam that regulated this practice, limited it, made it more humane and instituted equal rights and status for all wives. What the Qur’anic decrees amount to, taken together, is a discouragement of polygamy, unless necessity for it exists. Polygamy did not disappear in modern societies, but it just became practiced outside the bonds of marriage. It may be under the label of individual choice and freedom, but is happens with no commitment, rights or responsibilities put on the shoulders of either party. So, brothers and sisters stop being defensive and provide logic answers to those none moslims. ask them don't Polygamy exist in western society? it exist more than us in moslim societies but they doing as I said "under level of choice and freedom". So is fair for woman Islam who gave her equel rights between wivies or those using woman sexuality with out responsibiles? . So from a realistic point of view, Islam addresses realities and sets boundaries and formulates balances of reciprocal rights and responsibilities. Salam

Oooh, is very true , we would be lost but God is the best. thanxx sweetheart for reminding us. Salam

lol kynda, wshbalaj? shklej z3lty mn hthelah. eft7y senfon...lol Salam

girls I have to agree with u on that not to allow guy to call me nyaa but, what I hate most is when some people call me "warya". I am like do u see me a guy ? don't u see my skirt and my high heels? what kind of man who wears like me :mad: salam

lol@pearl! hold on , we just heard one side of the story let us not judge till we hear other side. LAKKAD, we waitting ur side . Darman , better to have prove before ur acuse the brother. Salam

I Joke a lot online but offline I have to be serious I have no choice Salam

Moti, what partner u talking about bal? ok ok I will be serious now. yes I believe just calling her that (sharekat 7ayati) enough to calm her down and make her feel more comfortable even thought while she is cleaning dishes after heavy lunch( rice and chicken plus laban mara3i) u will in ur bed taking afternoon nap salam

Does he take permision when he goes out with his friends?If yes then is only fair to take his permision. salam

Salafi, accept my appology wallalo, some times I am crazy not all the time ..lol.Thanx for ur du'a . Ameen Salam

I am intrested to read the artical, any english translation?!! Salam

wallalo easy on the girl if these words are foreign to u, is exist and happens plus she did not say she did "zina" a'odu bellah. All she asked was advice so please don't give things more than it deserves. let me back to the topic , girl I will tell ayeyo who allowed u to love bal? No love before marriage or I will tell her salam

let us not mix between what Allah ordered us and what some moslims do . I believe Allah only can judge them. So, If some prayers r bad people, is that means I stop Salat coz some r bad??! The answer is NO .exactly , Hijab is indeed obligation from Allah whatever u wearing to show off or to obey Allah.Allah knows best. I disagreed bro Nur about judging person's Iman according how thay wear Hijab BUT I don't think any moslim can question about Hijab, is part of Islam and u should wear it or Allah will punnish u there is no question about that. Salam

Yackkk 3amo boxer, shno hatha? lawa3t jabdy salam