oba hiloowlow;825212 wrote: ^^ sxb this is not a qabiil thing but what makes me wonder how come everyone in this forum or in reality who support this dastuur thing is planders why is that? Everyone asking the same question.....and all puntland put together is not even 200,000:D

people in somalia r tired of puntland schemes.It's their way of saying to hell with unity.

won't be like Nigeria close to 200m,we few.Baidaba should drill too,so all somalis chill.

let every region run its affairs and only then unity among those comfortable getting along..simple.This federal,central or whateva u call can't be imposed..total nonesense in this environment.

ova reacting..

Pirates exposed thmslvs many times ova.No one gives thm ear nxt time even when telling nothing but the whole truth.Spin,propaganda & power grab become synonymous with that entity:D

@Paragon....Not hot,we come here same way you guys come to SL threads.Let's be fair.Maybe some kind o affinity:D

Samafal;824803 wrote: When you see secessionists worried and bothered about this constitution you sense there must be something up. A close family member has just came back from Hargeisa and said they are talking a lot about the constitution and what it will mean for them. You can call secessionists whatever you like but they are not dabaal they really understand that the game in the playground is nearly over. Who's more worried than the one preoccupied with somaliland on every page when is not even the issue at hand!

Xaaji Xunjuf;824785 wrote: Well right now the Garowe clan enclave they have their own little army Galmudug state same story along with ximan iyo xeeb. Also the grave worshipers in Galguduud have their own little army, we also have the TFG they also have their own little army and we have the Alshabaab Militants. But the reason there is division is simply because of Clan federalism Somalia needs strong institutions and national unity. where we making the grave error is we comparing to western institutions or even corrupt ridden,tribalistic 3rd world.It's none of these 2.We agree why isn't the first,but even the latter ,gov't institutions have existed or run by force continously like kenya,Nigeria etc; and even where there was civil war like uganda & ruanda,a unified armed single entity came on top unlike somalia where none could defeat each otha & vacuum been the norm,the longest in any country in modern times.So what now?for any who need to unite,they should keep their army, institutions locally and a very weak federal gov't ova see.No trust seriously.The last none prefer is a strong central gov't that can impose drastic measures at will.Imagine Shabab or any of the war lords with enough power to make their word divine.There is no otha solution but regional gov'ts go forward..that make strong man obsolete.Look at the U.S ,every state have it's own laws,i.e,there is no state tax in oregon. As corrupt as somalis r,problems arise on how to share revenue,taxes,foreign aid..who eva has little power on others makes sure his cronies & region get it all!!! all aware of real problems but yet to come with solutions devoid of clan. That's $1million question.Everything is clan..back to square one:D

for those who want to unite:D

Xaaji Xunjuf;824773 wrote: And can you imagine the threats are coming from the Amisoms top general an Ugandan bal haday ciidanka xooga dalka ahaan lahayd ciil ba ma qabeen. that shows why somalia should neva have strong army.We know wat happened last time.Every region should be armed just in case.

Xaaji Xunjuf;824766 wrote: Burahadeer 4 madaxweyne iyo badh anu samaysano oo ku salaysan 4.5 marka afartu iyo badhkuba Madaxweyne ha noqdaan oo meel walba ha isku raacaan lol. oo meel walba ha isu raacaan:D:D:D that be quite revolutionary,world will accept rather than having continous carnage.

Guys it very sure now majority of somalis rejected.Let every region have it's constitution & send one person to Mogadishu for rotating presidency...each should be president for 1yr.

caydiiba bilaabantay:D

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=somalid%20race&source=web&cd=14&ved=0CIMBEBYwDQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.stormfront.org%2Fforum%2Ft554149%2F&ei=ZrieT_TSGar26AG0wIynDw&usg=AFQjCNEO68mIKXPcBQThFocMBhcXdEpAVg read this thread,very informative...probably take you couple hrs to finish.It's in stormfront blog(Nazis).

all the little off shoots r claiming now as the origin especially jews with less than 20% & Berbers who r M78..that's : M35 (first)somalis M78(second)Berbers etc. I was skeptical of Black nationalists claim that history is rewritten to the benefit of certain groups til I get into this.They were right!

The genetic Atlas. Haplogroup E1b1b1 Time of origin ~ 25,000 years BP Place of origin East Africa Descendants E1b1b1a, E1b1b1b Highest Frequencies Region Frequency Somalia + 80% Moroccan Atlas + 80% Darfur (Sudan) + 60% Northwest Africa + 50% Albania + 40% Northeast Africa + 40% Southern Greece + 40% http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegeneticatlas.com%2FE1b1b1_Y-DNA.htm&ei=IzKeT4D_N6Tl6QHFmengDg&usg=AFQjCNGGDBbXJVtFfvz09WwsRZGTH_LR8w&sig2=xFO5lxG6RNNi899JLuK2Pw ( genetic Atlas)

Somalis have +85% of E1b1b1(M35) which is the first & r the highest carriers in the world.It's believed the origin,that's why given Somalid race. Hitler, Einstein, Obama , Napolean and Wright brothers all r somalid race:D so what happened to leaderless somalis? Napolean started WW1 Hitler started WW2 Einstein father of atomic bomb. Is there some somalid gene for destructive purposes,certainly they smart: Now clans trying to dominate each otha after exhausting the world with 2 world wars:D:D:D

DNA SPREAD THEORY This page deals with the link between DNA y-Chromosomes and Historic events - in combination known as DNA SPREAD THEORY. The theory is predicated on the concept that Tribes made history; tribes are basically related family and therefore share common DNA Haplogroups and Haplotypes. Followers Blog Archive ▼ 2012 (1) ▼ January (1) Curious DNA HG-E1b1b1 ► 2011 (24) ► 2010 (6) ► 2009 (18) About Me BILL Columnist and father of exceptionally intelligent children View my complete profile THURSDAY, JANUARY 12, 2012 Curious DNA HG-E1b1b1 Haplogroup E1b1b1 is interesting … Hitler, Einstein, Obama and now Napoleon has been come into the mix. When it comes to leadership roles, that group seems to get around. 12% of Spanish Jews are E1b1b, 20% of Eastern European Jews – all tie back to North Africa. It is going to be interesting to discover what other leaders fall into this group. Posted by Bill at 8:36 PM 1 comments: E1b1b1Apr 29, 2012 10:54 PM this is cushitic dna.Largest number of carriers in the world r somalis,original. ReplyDelete Add comment Older Post Home Subscribe to: Post Comments (Atom) http://www.blogger.com/profile/04576717557005032111

^^ but will they eva understand to mind their business.They only focused saying bad about somaliland...kind o feel good,eh:D

running after somaliland..waar way duushay:D...take care of urslvs,but you couldn't except for the braging!!! Keep villifying if that could help pirate land.

oba hiloowlow;824206 wrote: lool naagta waa kommunen what's kommunen?

^ right:D

when it won't get ratified tomorrow they will come up with the usual words,"it wasn't important,it could be postponed,we have ours in PL etc". Remember before london conference;their words were ,"you called by powers to be united with somalia & that's what u gona sign there".when that didn't happen then they all went off air,some haven't come back yet. Then there was the supposed meeting between somaliland & Tfg...when it didn't materialize then all of a sudden it wasn't important & the tfg has to concentrate on rebuilding it's base first and same on many otha instances:D:D jajajajajjajajaa.

BAcaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac:D