haha less melanin...not enuf sun:D

poor north koreans.If they don't start reform they will wait for their demise; but if they start reform they will speed up their demise.

I'm not againest him but really impressive certificates don't tell all.Farmajo,ali khalif etc had degrees & experiences.Whether it's BS or PhD ,you can run a country if suited,honest,hardworking & have right people around you.Neither Zanawi nor Museveni have all that credentials & r doing good job.So basically that all don't matter if you not the right person for the job which I'm not saying he isn't.Look at C student George Bush, elected twice in the most powerful nation...yes he did mess up but get elected anyway.

they love their inaabti...you know how sweet:D

Nin-Yaaban;851263 wrote: Use to know a Somali guy who was married to one of those mail order brides back when i lived in Virginia. They had 2 kids (sons) and looked nothing like Somalis. More like Barawanis. ye somalis always turn white,nonetheless hope they neva go back to Russia...the whole east stinks

I wonder how many half somalis ova there?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFsQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fafroeurope.blogspot.com%2F2011%2F02%2Fchallenges-of-biracial-children-in.html&ei=DKIEUILBB9TR6gGh8uXeCA&usg=AFQjCNHZgbHgNenl-m67R67hnysCc4rqZg&sig2=uOKxZZVOSufYasP92rPiIg Chocolate tears “What I hate most in the whole world is going to school,” confirms 12 year old metis Alina Silvia. “At home I was tenderly called ‘chocolate,' in class the name ‘starveling' has stuck on me. There was a time during physical education when I fell and soiled my uniform. I definitely cried. The others just laughed and said that I'm supposed to always wear dirty clothes so that the clothes match with my skin color and unclean origin. Another time, when I faltered at the blackboard, my classmates were shouting to the teacher: “Yes, she's ******. It's a nigger from the palms”. It was very humiliating. At long last I convinced mother to take me from school. I study at home with hired teachers. Up to now I have very few friends, yep kids from the neighborhood, only one girl from my courtyard.” The worst thing that takes place is that some of the teachers take part in hurting the metis. Many such examples have accumulated in the METIS organization. Angela, a dark skinned girl with a great voice, could not received her well-earned prize at young talents competition. She was told: “How can a nigger win in the festival of Our Home – Russia?”

http://www.businesswithoutborders.com/industries/consumer-goods/emerging-investors-in-africa-africans/ Emerging investors in Africa: Africans As U.S. and Europe scale back amid global crisis, intra-continent investments are on the rise By: Patrick McGroartyFrom: The Wall Street JournalDate: Wednesday July 11th, 2012 What FDI says about a place DAR ES SALAAM, Tanzania—As U.S. and European companies retrench from their efforts to bankroll projects across Africa, a group of investors is quickly emerging to pick up the slack—other Africans. Photo: UIG via Getty Images Even as overall foreign investment into Africa has contracted, a cohort of homegrown companies has mounted an unprecedented expansion drive. Investment between African countries has almost doubled in the past five years, to 13% of new projects started on the continent last year, according to a report on foreign direct investment released by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development. The companies behind those investments are chasing high growth rates in fast-developing markets, many of them buoyed by resource exports. Oil in Angola and Nigeria, copper in Zambia and coal in Mozambique have each attracted tens of billions of dollars over the past decade. Over the period, the continent’s supermarket chains, construction companies and banks have expanded rapidly. South Africa’s Shoprite Group raised $1 billion in bonds and new stock in March to fuel expansion into markets including Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of Congo, adding to the 223 stores in 16 countries it already has outside South Africa. The Nigerian industrial conglomerate Dangote Group spent $93 million on a majority stake in a South African cement maker in 2010 and $400 million to build a cement factory in Zambia in 2011. Togo-based Ecobank Transnational Inc. was the second-biggest investor in Africa over the past decade in terms of new projects; the bank now operates in 32 African countries. China has maintained its position as the continent’s top investor, pumping $56.4 billion into sub-Saharan Africa since 2005, the Heritage Foundation says. The U.S., Europe and other developed countries have sent less money to Africa since the global financial crisis began, according to the U.N. report. Overall investment into Africa fell for a third straight year in 2011, to $42.7 billion, down from a peak of $57.8 billion in 2008. “The overall fall in FDI to Africa was due principally to a reduction in flows from developed countries, leaving developing countries to increase their share in inward FDI to the continent,” it said. Many of those developing-world investors, the report showed, hailed from within Africa, a continent of one billion people clamoring toward consumer lifestyles. Already, 355 million Africans spend from $4 to $20 a day, a tier the African Development Bank defines as middle class. Consumer spending in Africa is expected to double from current levels to nearly $1 trillion a year by 2020, according to research firm Euromonitor International. Africa’s growth is hovering above 5%—with rates approaching 10% in Angola and Ghana—even as the economies of billion-person developing markets in India and China are slowing. India’s economy grew 5.3% in the first quarter, the lowest rate in almost a decade, while China grew 8.1% in the same three months, the slowest since the spring of 2009. Last week, Brazil’s government ordered $4.1 billion in economic stimulus in an attempt to lift growth above a modest 2.5% this year. “Africa’s domestic market is very big and very poorly served,” says Gachao Kiuna, chief executive of Transcentury Ltd., a Kenyan power equipment and transport company whose revenue has grown to $300 million from $3 million in eight years. “That’s going to be the fundamental driver of continued economic growth—and that is what’s making us more resilient to the global economic shocks.” Many African countries are accelerating growth from a tiny base. Kenya and Ghana each have economies smaller than Madison, Wis., the Brookings Institution wrote in a recent report. But collectively, the gross domestic product of Africa’s nations are already roughly the size of Brazil’s. Companies willing to decipher the cultural and regulatory nuances between 54 markets are positioned to tap decades of growth potential, according to Louis Deppe, a director for private-equity firm Actis LLP. “The demands within African countries are so high and there’s so much room for efficiencies that these markets can be introspective for a long time still,” Mr. Deppe says. To be sure, global economic malaise hasn’t spared Africa entirely and could yet crimp the continent’s growth. Falling commodity prices are weighing on Africa’s resource exporters. Crude-oil prices fell to an 18-month low in June, hammering big exporters like Nigeria, Angola and Ghana. The European debt crisis has hurt Africa’s more liquid currencies, like Ghana’s cedi and Kenya’s shilling, which depreciated sharply this year as investors fled risky assets. South Africa, the continent’s largest and most open economy, has been the hardest hit—the rand hit a three-year-low against the U.S. dollar last month, but has recovered since. Some exporters are also struggling to find financing as the European banks that dominate that business have retrenched. “Africa is not divorced from the rest of the world,” says Arnold Ekpe, Togo-based Ecobank’s chief executive. And a perennial challenge remains: the lack of reliable roads, phone lines and power grids to facilitate trade between countries. Trade between African countries has been stuck at about one-tenth of the continental total over the past decade, according to the International Monetary Fund. But some improved cross-border connections are making it easier to operate between countries. Stretches of Africa’s potholed roadways are getting face-lifts, often thanks to Chinese and Indian companies that need them to get minerals to ports. Direct flights now link big commercial hubs, whereas flying from Dakar, Senegal, to Lagos, Nigeria, used to involve an eight-hour trek that stopped in three different countries. Regional trade blocs are also eliminating tariffs between member countries and harmonizing customs and visa policies, reducing dayslong waits for trucks at some borders. In South Africa, service providers are among those tapping into the continent’s new middle class. Johannesburg-based medication and equipment distributor RTT Group has opened regional hubs in Ghana and Kenya since 2006 and now delivers to 27 African countries. Iain Barton, RTT’s chief executive, said health-service companies can grow almost exponentially in Africa, where heart disease and diabetes are becoming almost as common as HIV and tuberculosis as Africans consumption habits change. “It wouldn’t be ambitious to aim for less than tripling our business in the next five years,” Dr. Barton said. Transcentury, Mr. Kiuna’s Kenya-based infrastructure company, made its first foreign investment in 2005 in Tanzania’s seaside capital of Dar es Salaam, acquiring a majority stake in an electric cable factory from France’s Nexans SA. “They wanted to exit the market because they saw it as small,” Mr. Kiuna said. “I would argue that was a mistake.” A spokeswoman for Nexans said the factory didn’t fit the company’s Africa strategy at the time. Less than one-tenth of Tanzania’s roads are paved and it can take a month for imports to clear Dar es Salaam’s port. That can make for unreliable supplies of the copper and aluminum Transcentury needs to forge its cables. But Mr. Kiuna said those tribulations were worth enduring to reach an urbanizing population of 44 million and growth above 6%. Under Transcentury, the factory has doubled its share of Tanzania’s cable market and turned a profit every year except 2010. Even with Tanzania’s robust growth, companies with strong positions here are looking to expand elsewhere. Since 2009, Bakhresa Group, East Africa’s biggest flour miller and Tanzania’s dominant purveyor of fruit juices and ice creams, has spent $45 million building a grain silo and flour mill in northern Mozambique. The mill will help Bakhresa ramp up sales in Mozambique, where growth averages above 7% a year, and make it easier to transport flour overland to neighboring Malawi. There, Bakhresa has nearly 80% of the market. “We saw the market potential, and based on that, we expanded,” said Ramesh Kumar, Bakhresa’s vice president for corporate planning. “

Diamond Fields International Ltd., of Vancouver, British Columbia, plans to be using a ship or platform fitted with a nearly mile-long hose to vacuum up fine silt suspended near the bottom of the Red Sea by 2014. The company says the silt contains copper, zinc, silver and trace amounts of gold.

http://www.businesswithoutborders.com/topics/opportunities/going-deep-beyond-the-borders/ Business Without Borders Search: HomeTopicsIndustriesResourcesProfilesEventsMembersVideos Going deep beyond the borders A new breed of mining companies are scouring the ocean floor for new caches of natural resources By: Alistair Macdonald and Edward WelschFrom: The Wall Street JournalDate: Friday July 13th, 2012 Natural Resources A new breed of small, specialized mining firms plans to dive deep undersea in a quest for rich sources of metals and minerals, as technology and demand make the seafloor increasingly attractive as the next big mining frontier. Photo: Nautilus Minerals Previous efforts to dig for deep-ocean deposits fizzled as the reserves were too expensive to mine or technologically out of reach. Now, new advances in robotics, computer mapping and underwater drilling—combined with historically high commodities prices—are reviving interest. To be sure, costs and the innovative nature of the projects means that marine mining in the near term is far from given. That was underscored recently, when Nautilus Minerals Inc., long expected to be the first to mine, announced delays to its project on the back of funding troubles. Still, a handful of Canadian companies are close enough that they are signing up customers and finalizing drilling schedules and budgets. Vancouver-based DeepGreen Resources Inc. announced that Swiss commodities trader Glencore International PLC has agreed to buy half of the nickel and copper it plans to process from tennis-ball-sized nodules sitting almost three miles below the water’s surface between Hawaii and Mexico. The nodules contain about 30% manganese, a metal used to make steel, along with cobalt, nickel and copper. DeepGreen hopes to begin production by 2020. Diamond Fields International Ltd., of Vancouver, British Columbia, plans to be using a ship or platform fitted with a nearly mile-long hose to vacuum up fine silt suspended near the bottom of the Red Sea by 2014. The company says the silt contains copper, zinc, silver and trace amounts of gold. Earlier this year, Toronto-based Nautilus signed up its first customer for high-grade copper and gold that it hopes to be mining almost a mile below the South Pacific, in several sites off the coast of Papua New Guinea. It is having a system of submersible vehicles built that will plow the seabed and send mineral-rich slurry into pipes for processing on the surface. It had expected first production by the end of next year, but said that it is “in dispute” with Papua New Guinea over funding and warned of a possible delay in funding for the project’s main vessel. Since last summer, the International Seabed Authority, an independent body set up by the United Nations to regulate mining in international waters, has signed four new contracts with groups looking to explore the ocean floor, says Adam Cook, an ISA marine biologist. That is a jump from the eight contracts previously signed, six of which were inked over 12 years ago, Mr. Cook says. The new contracts include agreements with state and private organizations from Japan, Korea, Russia and China. “In time, I believe that oceans could provide the world’s demand for metals in its entirety,” says Steve Rogers, Nautilus Minerals’ chief executive. The recent undersea push comes as mining companies scour the globe for fresh reserves, having depleted much of the world’s easy-to-access veins. As ore grades deteriorate onshore, the relatively rich grades thought to be waiting below the water are justifying the expected large costs and risks. Nautilus says one of its prospective undersea deposits in the Pacific Ocean promises to yield ore with an average 7.5% to 8% of copper, compared with 0.6% at an average onshore mine. Given that so little is known of the ocean floors, scientists are reluctant to estimate overall resources. But last year, a team of Japanese scientists said that they found an estimated 80 billion to 100 billion metric tons of rare-earth deposits in the Pacific Ocean, or nearly a thousand times more than current proven recoverable onshore rare-earth reserves, as estimated by the U.S. Geological Survey. Companies have been mining shallower waters for decades. De Beers SA, for instance, currently mines an annual one million carats of diamonds off the coast of Namibia. And oil companies have made huge strides drilling for hydrocarbons in super-deep waters around the world. But previous attempts at deep-sea mining haven’t yet proven technologically possible or economically viable, despite more than a century of experience. Efforts date back to the 1870s, when a British research vessel trawled up manganese nodules from a depth of almost three miles as part of a wider scientific study of the world’s oceans. Commercial efforts to raise manganese from the ocean floor in the 1970s collapsed amid technical difficulties, among other problems. Despite recent gains in technology, some mining analysts say the challenges ahead for economic production are still significant. Costs are still far from clear, and the limits of today’s advances in technology are still largely untested. The recent announcement from Nautilus came as little surprise to analysts, who say delays are common in mining and particularly so in projects pursuing new avenues. Nautilus had to put its plan on hold in 2008, amid uncertainty around the financial crisis. Still weak financial markets were blamed for a delay in funding from the company’s German partner. The company is also in dispute with government of Papua New Guinea, which has granted Nautilus its mining lease and is co-funding 30% of the project. Papua New Guninea is being buffeted by political uncertainty, amid interparty squabbles over the premiership. Meanwhile, environmental groups have raised concerns about the possible effect of deep-sea mining on aquatic life. While nations have specific regulatory authority over the seabed under their territorial water, that oversight diminishes farther out to sea. Miners counter the likely environmental impact is less than onshore mining, in part because it doesn’t require building roads and is far from human habitation. Raymond Goldie, a mining analyst at Toronto-based broker Salman Partners Inc., believes a deep-sea mine like the one Nautilus envisions will still see delays. But he says it is a realistic project, which the mining world is taking seriously and watching with interest. “These guys are a test case,” he says.

Centurion;851234 wrote: Burahadeer, please note I was writing in the future tense. Somalia after this civil war will be a world apart from what it was pre 1991. Like many other Muslim countries, ours has become much more conservative over the last 20 years. it's all about money:D....go to hargeisa & how it changed more liberal last few yrs, which tells me again that religion is only a refuge.Look at the west how people flock to churches during war or high unemployment.

you be surprised how much pressure they put you thru to pray in somalia and yet all the treachery,lies,badmouthing,clannism and all kind rotten things afterwards...such a disgusting hypocrisy you can even detect online.

Michael Mariano from Erigabo was the head of UNF party during independence,then parliamentarian,ambassador & minister.There were few otha families & no one cared their faith.The new shabab wanabes are the ones that have no place in somalia.Besides somalis r clans which is above religion and no one dares harm them...boor,boor:D

ye it looks certain they engaged for their dubious agenda but will bite them in the azz.

Kenyans just stupit..this gives a boost to shabab,blessing in disguise for the islamists.

atlast

you know what you getting into.. ensuing fight about bosaso:D

^^ right ,another Zaire where the leader died with $18+ billion that end up in the hands of western bankers & masses left poorer & poorer in what could'v atleast been one of the first 5 richest countries in the world.

advocating taking lost land back is simply pure madness & has no clue of geo-political reality in this world.Rather emphasize how you can incorporate the whole region together both politically & economically,that way lasting peace & grandiose development can be achieved.Whether you wana be friends with america or any otha country is entirely upon you..you dictate who to talk to but there's a price to pay for being rediculosly dogmatic about religion. It's the leader who sets the agenda & carries the whole state to greatness or kick off the cliff. you either have Moa or hitler.......

The Europeans noticed that some Tutsis had facial characteristics that were generally atypical of other Bantus. They sought to explain these divergent physical traits by postulating admixture with or partial descent from migrants of Caucasoid stock, who usually were said to have arrived in the Great Lakes region from the Horn of Africa and/or North Africa.[3] Some Tutsi also believe they are descendants of the ancient Israelites and had a mystical connection to Israel.[4] By contrast, the Europeans considered the majority Hutu to be characteristic Bantu people of Central African origin. These various migration theories of foreign provenance were also in part inspired by the Tutsi's own long-held oral traditions asserting that they originally descended from "white" migrants, who subsequently "lost" their original language and culture as they intermarried with the local Bantus. The British explorer John Hanning Speke recorded one such account in his book Journal of the Discovery of the Source of the Nile:[5] "The governor[...] said he thought the white men were flocking this way to retake their lost country; for tradition recorded that the Wahuma were once half black and half white, with half the hair straight and the other half curly; and how was this to be accounted for unless the country formerly belonged to white men with straight hair, but was subsequently taken by black men?":D:D:D Beginning about 1880, Roman Catholic missionaries arrived in the Great Lakes region. Later, when German forces occupied the area during World War I, the conflict and efforts for Catholic conversion became more pronounced. As the Tutsi resisted conversion, the missionaries found success only among the Hutu. In an effort to reward conversion, the colonial government confiscated traditionally Tutsi land and reassigned it to Hutu tribes, igniting a conflict that has lasted into the 21st century.[6] Wikipedia... Genetics Modern-day genetic studies of the Y-chromosome suggest that the Tutsi are largely of Bantu extraction (80% E1b1a, 15% B, 4% E3). Paternal genetic influences associated with the Horn of Africa and North Africa are few (1% E1b1b), and are ascribed to much earlier inhabitants who were assimilated . The Tutsi, in general, demonstrate a close ethnic kinship with neighboring Bantu populations, particularly the Hutu.[7] [...]generations of gene flow obliterated whatever clear-cut physical distinctions may have once existed between these two Bantu peoples -- renowned to be height, body build, and facial features. With a spectrum of physical variation in the peoples, Belgian authorities legally mandated ethnic affiliation in the 1920s, based on economic criteria. Formal and discrete social divisions were consequently imposed upon ambiguous biological distinctions. To some extent, the permeability of these categories in the intervening decades helped to reify the biological distinctions, generating a taller elite and a shorter underclass, but with little relation to the gene pools that had existed a few centuries ago. The social categories are thus real, but there is little if any detectable genetic differentiation between Hutu and Tutsi.[8] Wikipedia. [Paternal genetic influences associated with the Horn of Africa and North Africa are few (1% E1b1b), and are ascribed to much earlier inhabitants who were assimilated] when assimilation take ova genes???

http://sports.ndtv.com/images/stories/somalia_f_120.jpg(girls in training). http://sports.ndtv.com/othersports/othersports/item/193507-somalia-in-olympics-from-dodging-bullets-to-hunting-medals Mogadishu, Somalia: Running from war, dodging bullets and defying Al-Qaeda linked Islamist insurgents who ordered them to stop: Somalia's determined Olympic hopefuls have overcome challenges few other athletes could even imagine. Olympics 2012 | Schedule | India at Olympics | Medals Tally "Somalia has had no real government for the last 20 years, but determination, good fortune and hope will take us close to victory," said 18-year-old female athlete Zamzam Mohamud Farah. The training facilities are pock-marked with bullet holes from years of brutal conflict, but as the four athletes -- two men and two women -- stride out in training, they offer a glimmer of hope for the war-ravaged nation. Multiple governments have failed to create stability in the Horn of Africa nation, wracked by over two decades of civil war, let alone form a competitive sports team. Yet coach Ahmed Ali Abikar, who himself ran for his country, believes the team could prove a point to the world about Somalia, which so often appears on international news only for war, famine, drought or piracy. "We are motivated, our team spirit will see us through," said Abikar, as the athletes stocked up on energy with piles of sugar-laden traditional Somali pancakes. "We can show everyone that sport is still alive in Somalia." Somalia, like all nations, has two guaranteed slots in athletics, one man and one woman. For the anarchic nation, just having their two athletes fly Somalia's flag in London will be an achievement -- but Abikar has higher hopes. "I'm confident that those we choose to go to London to represent the country in the Olympic Games will come home -- we hope -- with very good results," Abikar said. "They lived in conflict the whole of their lives and that could impact their performance, but their talent is fantastic," he added, watching as the athletes exercised in T-shirts with the Olympic rings neatly hand painted on. Facilities are a far cry from the first class treatment that characterizes life for star competitors from other nations. Years of war left training facilities in ruins. "We are suffering from hardships, constant war, lack of finance and hampered by poor facilities," said Abikar in the team's base, a former primary school abandoned during fighting between rival militia forces in the capital Mogadishu. "We have no personal doctors and in case the athletes get sick, they have to seek general treatment in Mogadishu," he added. The athletes, aged between 18 and 20, have spent the last six months in camp, but life has been far from easy. The two female athletes were often forced to exercise indoors after threats by extremist Shebab insurgents. "The Shebab kept threatening me, they wanted to stop me from reaching my dreams," said Farah. "It was hard since that meant we were forced to have our training indoors." The Shebab fighters abandoned fixed positions in Mogadishu last year, driven out after a long offensive by African Union troops, as well as soldiers loyal to the Western-backed transitional government. But the hardline rebels -- who have imposed draconian penalties on activities deemed "Western", including football -- have since launched several guerilla style bomb and grenade attacks in the capital, and people remain fearful of them. In April, a suicide bomber killed the Somali Olympic Committee president Aden Yabarow Wiish in an attack during a ceremony at the national theatre. "People are not always happy about our sports dress -- we were insulted for it but we never gave up," said Amal Bashir, another of the two female athletes. The two train wearing tracksuit trousers, short-sleeved T-shirts and a headscarf, in a country where women normally wear voluminous dresses that cover them from wrist to toe and billowing veils. "Our goal is bigger than whatever challenges that come our way," Bashir added. Yet things are improving in Somalia: years after leaving due to rising violence, 19-year old Mohamed Hassan Mohamed returned to compete for the country of his birth. The father of one fled to Yemen in 2009 to escape incessant waves of violence. "Somalia is safer now and we can focus more on training rather than dodging stray bullets", said Mohamed, who runs the 1500 metres, coming fourth in the 2011 Pan Arab Games in Qatar. "I'm very happy and more confident than ever." Mohamed says he hopes to put up a performance in London to match that of Abdi Bile Abdi, Somalia's legendary runner who became the 1,500 metre world champion in 1987. "I want to remind my people and the world of the great Somali and world champion Abdi Bile Abdi," Mohamed said. The athletes will face a tough challenge when they travel to London, but Somali Athletics Federation deputy chief Kadijo Adan Dahir said she was confident that having come so far, they can overcome the hurdles ahead. "The security situation has hampered our efforts, and the resources we have had to prepare the athletes was unspeakable," Dahir said. "But I can assure you that these athletes are strong in spirit," she added.

read like 2yrs ago that one bedroom in Luanda is from $3000 + and ova 90% of natives can't afford who live in shanty towns outside the capital.Another misplaced priorities by african leader.

one guy went back 10yrs after the oxdus to claim his house.11 guys were occuping & told the owner there still one more(that make 12 of thm)fighting in kismayo & they can't make a decision til he is back.They told owner to check with thm in 2 weeks as that guy suppose to return from the front.Guess what! when the gentleman atlast thought he get his home,he was told the 12th one in the front died & hence no decision could be taken & is better he run with dear life. few could reclaim but most by in large should forget & move on.

you get atleast a minister if you claim unionist..get on board while it lasts.