congratulations may they win gold...

^^^ well you accusing him of that? donno.

Che -Guevara;863810 wrote: "The's the president of all the federal regions of ethiopia." Come again? indeed proud somali in higher echelons.

didn't know he had that much weight, he was number 2 man of the funeral speech,second to the care taker prime minister.They also mentioned he's the president of all the federal regions of ethiopia.Kudos the guy has good days ahead of him.

met mine in car wash,help her with the wipers & bingo:D

churches yes,talking of americans but you can frequent mosques if muslim...for many,doesn't matter what faith really.

very dangerous,cannibals in the midst.If you'r commited you find your match in more dignified way.People back to old ways in america..churches,high school sweets,neighbors,family,friend connections...and some 3rd worlds heading opposite direction not knowing stability & family best suited as is been.

too much talk and this mine ,that mine,jubouti is yours too...the caravan has left.

ya ya ya keep the fight........waaba kuwii oo helay cid la muranta....

Aaliyyah;862673 wrote: Lol@ few villages. ma abaha baa casharkan ku dhigey? LOL shame marlabaad bal ku dheh cashar sax ah isii. Khaatumo State is much more than few villages it is probably slightly larger than waqooyi galbeed province. As for the population horta no one counted precisely the population of your clan or mine but walahi no one cares if your clan is more in numbers than reer khaatumo or reer Awdal. So this whole idea of you are 90% or 50% of the population doesn't mean anything. No one gives even if that was even true, athough it is not even a fact and you are exaggerating. Somalis can also apply the same argument as you that other clans are much more than your one clan and therefore your clan should be forced to be part of Somalia. But, that wouldn't settle well with you would it. xoga caqliga ka shaqeesi. Bottom line, everyone has their rightful territories. One that they are entitled to. Yaan la isku xadgudbin As for your argument that if your clan reunites with the rest of Somalis there will be a civil war? let me point out that your claim of independent nation have also caused a civil war and havoc in your neighbors' territories a fact that a lot of you are aware of but simply chose to never discuss. Seriously, this continuous argument of "oh we are waiting for the south to get their s** together" won't sell and has no ground. Waqooyi galbeed province also needs to get its s*** together as well and leave its neighbors alone. People from Khaatumo and Awdal want nothing to do with your secession and support unity. Dulmi diidow dulmi doon ha noqon. you will not get what's not yours,period.People from khatumo took part more than their share of the destruction of somalia....history out there. Your new found nationalism is suspect to say the least,fake:D hahaa and "awdal"...you left out palestine & chechneya since you spokesperson for whateva...

why is that you clutching with this one somalia,seriously what difference it make, if any be more problematic and even anotha civil war.What gov't has eva offered somalis that you can entice.How it's gona change life of ordinary folks. Somalis are intertwined culturally,economically and every otha aspect regardless whether they under one umbrella or not.They cross to each other from jubouti to kenya to ethiopia to somalia.My view is more of peace and economy whereby the whole horn or east africa prosperous...that should be the trend.Frankly speaking I don't see the point why some busy thmslvs with greater somalia....that idea bite the dust and is more important to think in terms of stability and trade along with our neighbors like the EU.

really like your debate but I don't think so.How if we just be separate for sake of peace...borders open,no passports required,people trade,intermarry,live where eva they wana be....that's how it's today.You think you'r in mogadishu If you go to Hargeisa.

burahadeer;862577 wrote: somalilanders are the great majority in sanag and awdal(ova 90%) and sool ova 50% but those who wana go with their few villages have the right so long they not claiming what's not theirs and therefore not attainable peacefully or by arms. ^^^that's what I said earlier,if you want to go,please,please stick to your villages.What you have to understand is the whole somali civil war beginning from 1980s (siyad's gov't) was people claiming what's not theirs and yet no one is dislodged from his territory after 21+ yrs of armed conflict.You only make your case more difficult ,almost impossible if you keep claiming other's homes for pure propaganda reasons that will ultimately not gona deliver.

DoctorKenney;862575 wrote: Aaliyah's statement demolishes the arguments put forth by Somaliland Activists. I have no problem with an independent nation of Somaliland...however they shouldn't be forcing the people of Sool, Sanaag, or Awdal to secede as well... Somaliland is a country based on Qabiil, but I believe the Somalilanders shouldn't be forced to join the Somali Union. somalilanders are the great majority in sanag and awdal(ova 90%) and sool ova 50% but those who wana go with their few villages have the right so long they not claiming what's not theirs and therefore not attainable peacefully or by arms.

^^^^ well said but I'm afraid these guys derail their hard won stability atleast around Mogadishu in the quest to antagonize somaliland.Healthy mind tells to mind own business first,rebuild,pick up garbage strewn for 2 decades,house the women, orphans,grow food and resume normal life.It's better to have 10 different fed & peaceful somalis than one united with agony & constant upheaval. Thought were ova with those kind threads... more of a hate than kin love!

3 yr old somali girl was playing in the yard when this lady driving by saw her alone;she kept driving around the house & threw candy at the gate so baby come out.Luckily parents were looking thru the window...Be careful people. Glad the happy ending...

try to read arabic in internet,consumes all your time.Too much dots,signs.Nothing like latin,much much easier.Or is this the never ending quest to be arab?

Garnaqsi;862112 wrote: he passed health care where every president before him failed,atleast 30 million americans benefited.Pulled out of Iraq and almost afganistan.Resisted anotha war,i.e,libya etc unlike republican presidents it has become a fad thing to engage armed conflict with tiny countries...Nixon escalated vietnam,reagan went to tiny Grenada,Bush senior to panama,Bush junior to Iraq.It's the economy that let him down but poll after poll shows americans still blame Bush who messed up big time.He is not carrying baggage either...not a womanizer etc.

^^^^ EXACTLY

Apophis;862013 wrote: Jobs (high paying ones) are essential but currently (in Europe) our skills/education levels is not yet as high as it could be. If you read her wiki page it doesn't say this woman is part of a right wing party but rather, she agrees with one aspect of such party while rejecting their general perspective. Ps: NAACP & JDL have their positive sides but I believe they often help communities to feel victimise and thus shields them from criticism. The American model wouldn't work here in Europe. you seriously in delusion,"she agrees with one aspect" hahaa...and NAACP & JDL victimised their own!!!! you live in anotha planet. I'm at work right now ,don't wana succumb to your stereotypes(lazy welfare recepient).Holla later. and I mentioned following Already: QUOTE=burahadeer;860607You don't have enough qualification to get decent job If were 20+ at your arrival and been there for 10 yrs.All you can come up with is 7-11 & doubt that's even available in europe.

@Apohis .... I'm not againest criticism,what I been saying all along is attack the problem..JOBS,JOBS,JOBS,even to the extent of repatriation where possible but just being a member of far right organization like this women & spew hate toward her own cos they rejected her sexual orientation is more than cynical to say the least.This where an organization is needed like NAACP or jewish JDL etc. Profiling is not the way to go! Of what I think of you here is that you'r comfortable in life,but in the streets of Europe you just be seen as one of the rest.Great majority of somalis are decent just like most otha people.Majority under welfare in Europe & America are white....only difference is they in their own countries.

Apohis^^^ O.K . I already mentioned the need to look at that angle(high unemployment).Why be so harsh when you already know the symptoms of disease.What am trying to dispel here is that no people should be profiled & specially not by their own.I'm very much aware what they been saying about Jews that lead to holocaust in europe even when they were the richest ethnic group.Not saying that's gona happen but fact is such like nazis will be in your tail no matter what.So the need to tread carefully.The only solution for us is to work hard & dig underground back home and hopefully one day soon,too soon, leave dog live behind.Amen.Amin etc.

@Apohis...ye right ,read this again.......[[.Their example of somalis is a full plane straight from refugee camp that just landed.Those of us came early when things were much easier have the audacity to think like sinister skinheads.]] were all WETBACKS when we first arrived:mad:

^^^ agree with you here Mario.Their example of somalis is a full plane straight from refugee camp that just landed.Those of us came early when things were much easier have the audacity to think like sinister skinheads.