Hit who? Kenya?

They have done all of that with a dinner one was invited to? Nevertheless the issue is Somalia needs to be serious and mend and resolve issues with Somaliland, one or the other way.

Not sure if making a scene of something trivial is always positive or will get you anywhere. Now Kenya found a new stick to hit Somalia with.

Sports is best played together, and the Sanaag community just like other Somaliland prefer to play ️ , whereas Bosasso they play rugby which is just a different kind of ball game, a bit rougher and sheer power must be used to drive the ball through an opponent's side, while in soccer, excessive use of power is not allowed. Having said that, eventually some sorts of wider tournament has to be established with common rules of the game according to best practices of the international league, as the Somaliland league doesn’t play according to the international rules of the game and thus is not part of the international league and Somalia’s league doesn’t play well enough to compete internationally.

Ma codkii sanaag Bari ayaa loo shopping tagay leedahay ?

Change is in the air, and nobody knows for certain how that change will look like or if a recalibration of the order will take place. Just look at Somalia’s neighbours across the Gulf and how they are trying to forge new alliances, as they have seen that no distant muscle power can forever provide security guarantees. And look at our immediate neighbours Djibouti, Ethiopia and Kenya, after decades of western security and economic support, they all have engaged and build alliances with competing powers despite pressure. Don’t assume to know where things are heading when nobody does, and one should absolutely try to avoid getting sucked up in great power play as we can’t comprehend what is at stake. Meaning that the best course of action would be to deepen its existing western economic and political relations, but to stay away from inviting foreign militaries to the country as you would entangle yourself without having a clue as this could easily incite to more competing interventions and lead to domestic destabilisation, what you also see in Somalia.

M Is this in Erigavo?

what I note from this discussion is that Somalia needs security oversight and supervision, not appointed by the executive but perhaps by the legislative to ensure some sorts of accountability and check and balance, and prevent power abuse in the future. Everything else is about the usual personality driven play for power that has failed the people for the last 3 decades. Who killed who, and who abused who, are about crimes and has nothing with politics and won’t add anything to changing the current status quo. @SOL moderators, open a separate section for crime related discussions, this has nothing to do with politics. Aanu ka gudubno baliiiis.

the opposition is newborn only 2 weeks old don’t over feed as he might grow.

I can’t really tell where people stand, for that you would need an actual sensible, open and informed debate, which I haven’t seen so far. Chanting the same prattle, emotional extortion and accusing everyone who doesn’t chant with you, kills any opportunity for a debate. let’s see where this school of thought will lead to.

Why don’t you post the more rational and reasonable voices that advocate for some sorts of a relationship between Somalia and Somaliland instead of these kind of polarising views?

Where shall I start? Well for one, he implies that he supports Somali unity but proposes disunity by carving up Somaliland in to 5 separate regional states along clan lines under a national Mogadishu based government. As if further Somali division would bring one closer to unity, hence why I find this notion ridiculous. Second, he recognises the political and administrative legacy the former British-Somaliland of 1960 with its 6 districts, he recongnises the 5 administrative provinces of 1991, but completely denies the governance and administrative reality of the 1990’s, 2000s, 2010s and 2020s. He is even against the use of ‘Northern’ regions, denying even the geographical reality. Being against Somaliland’s recognition as a independent sovereign nation is one, but denying the existing administrative, governance and geographic reality is insane. You have to work with what you have, and it is only from accepting what you have that you can really start to make progress. What this gentleman is proposing is more state collapse, more clan based governance, more division and more chaos.

Unlike Japan which for one is an Island Nation that does not have any neighbouring countries that it shares land borders with and secondly Japan does not have any Japanese native peoples and lands outside of Japan, Somalia does have both. Weather we like it or not, Somalia’s fate is inseparably connected and inextricably bound with its neighbours Ethiopia and Kenya. For one, we have Somali native lands and peoples that are part of those countries, secondly for decades when Somalia had a strong government it was a direct treat to those countries and thirdly Somali nationalist ideology is solely based on uniting all Somalis under one strong nation state even if by force, which has been the main ideology coming from Somali corners for the last century, which was not only propagated within Somalia but across the wider region. And even though Somalis might have forgotten much of this, and see it as something of the past, our neighbours have NOT and still perceive Somali unity under a Somali state as a treat and averse to their unity and their state, so one should not be too surprised of our neighbours over-involvement in matters of the Somali state.

Anyone has a copy of that trade agreement? Hope Somalia negotiated more then just fish, as it hardly has the infrastructure to produce sufficient fish, let alone export it. Cross border trade, movement of people and infrastructural development along the border come to mind.

Siyasigu siyasad ayuu wataa, adna maxaa ku siyasad ah weeyaan suasho walaalkayoow.

He is not doing his cause any service, with these ridiculous and insane propositions.

Without genuine reconciliation every effort in state building will end in utter failure. This temporal politics of personalities and popularity fades and will leave nothing behind.

Giving people the perception inclusiveness is commendable, and should be emulated. Dadku waa iney aaminaan iney jirto dowlad hankeedu yahay ina umadu u wada siman tahay, taas ayuu Farmaajo si fiican dad badan aamin siiyay waana wax loo baahan yahay, ina wax laga barto oo lagu daydo fiican. laan gaaban ama dheer, laan isla geed lee ku taal sawmaha.

tweets ayaa waalay siyasadii Somalia, really hope government ignores this nonsense.

These are appointed officials, doesn’t say much of the numerical realities on the ground. Read somewhere that in the 50’s and 60’s officials in those regions were mostly from Puntland, and later in the 70’s and 80’s many from Somaliland. So I wouldn’t count out Galbeedi yet. P.S. The deputy-Mayor of Las Anod hails from Galmudug clan, and he is even elected. So even Somaliland cidna kuma diideyso.

Let’s say the government prioritises on pacifying Mogadishu and the regions south of Galkacyo, irrelevant of which clan lives there, then I think we all agree that is a good thing. But if the motive behind or the consequence of that pacification is for the government to push out certain clans or to favour certain clans to dominate other communities in their own native regions, then we can all agree that it would gravely undermine the overall goal of pacification and we are back to square one of the whole issue of the conflict. So why do you think something that hasn’t been possible for decades would be possible now? No clan can dominate another, even trying so would lead to adverse consequences, for sure that is a lesson Somalis should have learned by now. I wouldn’t listen to much to the propaganda of few diaspora clan mongers who don’t even dare to spend a night in Marka or Barawe, let alone travel those regions. The only solution and way forward is leadership that strives for genuine reconciliation, equitable inclusion of those communities involved and social justice. I don’t think anything else would work!

People’s expectations and demands change with context, situation and time. I wouldn’t be too worried that the new government will have it easy, and can just sit on the seat of government and do more of the same and expect approval with all those powers and leverage they have. People will be expecting more, and be even more critical as their needs change, are better informed, more aware and have higher expectations as politicians also have added to that increasing expectations in their campaigns to get support or undermine their opponent.

Xaaji, there is a difference between an opportunity and an achievement. Certain communities being dissatisfied with their clan and governance alliances to Puntland, doesn’t make that an achievement for Somaliland yet. However to seize and turn an opportunity in to achievement for Somaliland, much more effort is required. You seem to view politics like a sale transaction. Put an interested buyer in the pocket (jeebka iska gasho)

If the newly elected Presidents manages to achieve the following; -Push back extremist from all areas between major cities; and this leads to; -reduction of the nr of suicide attacks in Mogadishu; -And for people to travel again safely by road without fear from attacks between the major cities such as Mogadishu to Jowhar, Marka, Kismayo, Baidoa, Beletweyn and Galkacyo. Then his Presidency couldn’t be regarded as a failure, on the contrary it would be a big undeniable achievement both for the federal and regional governments.

Don’t deny some of Farmaajo’s political achievements and credit. The central state has today more balanced leverage and state power in relation to the states, whereas earlier it was the states that were over-powerful and even had some veto power in the matters of the State. Not discounting the need today for improved working relations between centre and regions. But for Somalia to develop its own model of ‘federalism’ that is workable, one needs to find some sort of balance between central state mandate and decentralised authority of states, and you won’t be able to achieve that if all powers are is with the states and neither if all power is with the central state. And I am sure both leaders have contributed in their own ways to seeking a balance and the right fit for the country which might eventually inshallah lead to a healthy equilibrium. The right political course and most healthy direction is found somewhere in the middle, and not always in the black and white perceptions which can lead to unbalanced and fragile realities.