Og Girl thats the last answer I could've wanted to get.....But okay.... I was expecting more like confidence like me " I am a muslim that follows the ways of prophet muhammed (saw) regardless of who the khalifah should've been by not doubting the quran and praying to none other than Allah" I am a sunni muslim because " I know it's the truth". I am not gonna say Shia are not really muslim but what their belief is about makes no sense..........just like the jesus trinity don't make sense.... the one and only for the 100th time, I am not gonna shorten nothing, if you're shia and care to read go ahead if not, just move along......

The one and olny, move along plzzzzzzzzzz you don't have to read! lets end it there. I don't do things to please people, so don't expect me to :rolleyes: . Thanks for responding! Og_girl Whatever type you are I they all came from one like you say and that big one was the first mistake so to me they all wrong in different ways...... Also seeing that you didn't make any corrections I guess I am right about the majority of things! I might be asking too much of you but could you answer why they belief it's okay to bash? regardless of who it is why even bash? Why you gotta pray to the grave???? Why would you think quran is incomplete? And Why are you a shia? If you gonna answer any of them atleast answer why you're shia? We share the Common principles which is We believe that Ali was the rightious Khalifa and Also we ALL share that we don't Accept Abo-Bakar, Omar and, Othman(RA ajma'een) as being Rightious Khulafa. Thats all, you just can't accept Abo-Bakar, Omar and, Othman(RA ajma'een) as being Rightious Khulafa. Doesn't even make sense why you would for whatever reason, whatever Allah wills happens and nothing happens without his knowledge. Islam is not about doubting Allah's abilities and making commands like "Ali should've been the successor"??? If he wasn't so what, what difference would've it made. At the end of they day they all died and so are you and ever one of us??? Just tell me this " whats the point"?????????? Thanx for respons, waiting for next one!

Are you serious? If I was to say " none could match up to him", so I wont even bother!

OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! I like this topic, I wrote a whole article about it PLZ the people who are backing shia and are shia......Give me you're two scent on it.................. it's in Islam section<<<<<<<<<< I am waiting

"I'll pass" hasn't happened to me or atleast I think it hasn't.................but I know people talk about people when they're not around for sure sometimes good things sometimes bad are said. Before saying anything bad or exposing someone even if they have faults true or not is think about if all those people you lied about chasing and pointing at you on Judgmentdaythats scary........with those mean faces saying " You lied, You lied, ruined my life, and who knows maybe billions of people looking at you ( Are people gonna see you when you're being Judged Nur????????) hear you're faults and everything what if it was "played on a screen for everyone to watch staghfurallah) I mean who knows.

looooooooooooooool @ bending rules for arabs cause they hairy.......... Not all are I think? Are you asking if it's okay to shave legs and arms??????????????? If so, try asking WHY NOT? Plucking eyebrows is haram, but never heard about arms and legs?

Are pants Haram???? You asking me? Ahhhhhhhhhhh I think so! Well all I know is when I was 14 I heard it was haram and that a girl who wears pants wont even get_________feet close to Jannah> can't remember the number . That was the last time I wore it ( Alahamdulilah). I am simple person and when I think about things if I have no doubt or it just doesn't make sense I don't see why I shouldn't do it. also there's a hadith that says if you have doubt about something "drop it" not exactly in those words but you get it........ So the fact that you have doubts about wearing pants means it's about time " you tossed those pants out into the dumpster" For instance I don't think women in the time of prophet muhammed (saw) wore pants. just because its 2005 don't mean we can....... and to those who say sure we can. Of course you can but don't tell me it's a good thing or you know its definately not a sin. Dressing Modestly always works best, what good is pants gona do me?........ I mean come on, whats the point. But then agin why do pants even exist? well duhh! as a test to see who would follow the ways of the non-muslims. I can't remember the hadith but it said something like " there will come a time when the muslim will follow non-muslims like a lizard going into a whole and being followed" something like that>>>>> So if I don't wish to be one of those people.

Mashallah, Old and saved how nice! Lately many people are reverting to Islam I guess it's probably for WWIII ( I know I am all about negativity no positive thinking)........ Or its just because more people are just confused about this world and asking for guidance from god , regardless I hope they all stike to the truth forever and ever till the end ( Ameen) Congrats to all reverts around the world including that lady! Isn't it amazing though how Islam doesn't have much to go on like the other religions who have radio's, tv, newspapers, magazine all over the place. Yet Islam is the faster growing religion ( subhanallaH).

Like did you write that you're self :eek: Either way it's really good ( Bravo) thanx for sharing

absolutely NO!!! You don't have to unless you're a shia who wants to correct me or someone who wants to defend their beliefe for whatever reason......... I worked hard on putting that together and every word needs to be read if not by you then someone who might be in need of it might read it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! inshallah!

aslamu-alikum brothers/sisters One thing I must request, don't start telling me there are many types of shia some of them don't do this, well they all come from one sect and if anything they are still wrong because they have some of the wrong belief. The time when it all started Omar Khatab companion of prophet,was the second khalifah. At this time islam was expanding and it had reached 7 regions, whcih were Iraq(Babylon), Iran, Pershia, Syria, Jordon, Palestine and Egypt entered islam. Fire worshipers temples where destroyed, business shut down. The mongols believed there where two gods, the god of darkness and god of light and that one of them should be worshipped more ( can't remember which). Umar destroyed their temples. Some guy killed Umar from Mongols in revenge. At this time Islam still expanding toward Asia, Africa, morocco, spain etc. There was a Jewish guy called Abdullah bin sabahwanting to stop expansion of Islam. Came up with a great idea. Uthman 3rd khalifah, Abdullah bin sabah decided to make a beautiful way divide and conquer. Went to median making himself like a Muslim. The capital of Muslim land. He tried to cause tribulation, the iyad says As the Christians are waiting for Christians this verse tells us prophet Muhammad (saw) is coming back. Verily He Who ordained the Qur'an for thee, will bring thee back to the Place of Return. Say: "My Lord knows best who it is that brings true guidance, and who is in manifest error." This was the first tribulation he caused. He lied because this verse is about,When prophet Muhammad (saw) was migrating pagans where chasing him and this verse is about him returning back to Mecca and this happened this was a prophecy. Companions couldn’t be deceived so he said u can’t pick a khalifah outside of family….Ali when he heard this he kicked him out of Medina. He knew he was no good. So he went to new territories where people became new Muslim. these people where new to the religion and poor them he decieved them with his lies. So he Entered Iraq 700 to 1000 and in Egypt followers. Until they came and deceived the 3rd khalifah in medina. Thats the end and look at them now, many shia still going at it! following the deception that is. But inshallah allah will guide the true sincere seekers one day..... Ameeen Okay you can reply if you're not shia but plz I want answers I don't want shia wanna bee's responding or people who want to defend them! If you're belief goes hand in hand with Shia's then respond. Or else move on. I wonder how many will answer my questions, I got these questions and verses from a person who knows what they're talking about.>>>>>> So show me that you people are not crazy for deviating away from true Islam. Can you tell me with every fibre in you that none of the following is true??? #############1 Khawarij- was the 1st sect,they killed Ali and thats why you all beat each other to feel the pain he felt, even though you betrayed him? #############2 2ome shia's cll upon grave of dead people asking for help ############3 3 shia also dislike Ayesha because of Battle of the Camel, they bash the companions of prophet muhammed (saw)…..Abu Bakr and even Aisha ##################4 4 Shia's are waiting for Al-Mahdi to come and bring a new revelation. Meaning you don't think the Quran is complete. Which are not ture??? Aren't they all true? Cursing prophet muhammed wife and companions Can you people really curse anyone you want??? Especially people who were so close to prophet muhammed (saw) and for what reason in you're right mind would you want to do that for when Allah says: The Prophet is closer to the Believers than their own selves, and his wives are their mothers. Blood-relations among each other have closer personal ties, in the Decree of Allah. Than (the Brotherhood of) Believers and Muhajirs: nevertheless do ye what is just to your closest friends: such is the writing in the Decree (of Allah). Did Allah not know what he was talking about when he said that, staghfurallah. What good is all that cursing gonna do for you on Judgmentday?? Plus: If you walk with a bad person you are a bad person when you insult prophet muhammed (saw)companions and wife what insult did you leave him out of when u insult his wife and people who were dearest and closest to him like companions If you walk with a bad person you are a bad person insulting prophet muhammed (saw) what insult did you leave him out of when u insult his wife and people who were dearest and closest to him like companions Shia's are waiting for Al-Mahdi to come and bring a new revelation. Meaning you don't think the Quran is complete. Are you people even really muslim??? why would you think such thing when Allah says in the Quran: In surah Al Maida This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. How can u not believe quran is complete or even some of the quran? Allah is telling you Islam is complete! Why you waiting for Al-Mahdi to come and bring a new revelation, read the verse again and tell me how u can even call you’re self muslim? "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." shia's call upon grave of dead people asking for help. For what reason???????? Why???? Does this even make sense to you???? When you say I bear witness that their is none worthy of worship but Allah and that prophet muhammed (saw) is his messenger then how do u go to some human being like you're self grave and pray to them for anything??? Concerning the Decree They idolize Ali and the 12 Imans, they go to graves of Imans asking for their help, this is shirk just like the catholic praying to saints they are pretty much the same decree…… Allah told us in the quran And your Lord says: "Call on Me; I will answer your (Prayer): but those who are too arrogant to serve Me will surely find themselves in Hell - in humiliation!" Why u praying to ali and Iman and Fatimah saying oh help us. Why allah ask us to call upon him b/c he manifested his lordship. "It is Allah Who has made the Night for you, that ye may rest therein, and the days as that which helps (you) to see. Verily Allah is full of Grace and Bounty to men: yet most men give no thanks" Instread of calling upon Allah they be calling upon other people………… Allah says When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. Allah the creator is listening, isn’t this clear! Allah does not need mediators or interceptors When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. How u going to call upon someone else and say Allah is the one and only worthy of worshiping? Do u not understand none is worthy of worship meaning only pray to allah believe in allah whole heartedly! They say Hussien and Ali are with Allah and so that’s why we call on them. Allah said in Quran Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." What What?????? No you didn't say that, Ali and Hussien are with allah and thats why you pray to their graves?????? Prophet muhammed (saw) has no control over anything in this world how you expect his Ali and Hussien his relatives to do something for you they didn't even create you?? Once again: This is about prophet muhammed (saw) saying this, how u gonna say they are more powerful than prophet muhammed (saw) how u gonna go to his nephew for interceptions. Doesn’t allah say seek Allah’s help alone, believe in Allah alone, he is the all knowing When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way. 18. And they worship besides Allâh things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allâh." Say: "Do you inform Allâh of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?" Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him! You are not fooling anyone Allah already knows of you people. Whoa that took long! Finally done, lets see if I get some responses!

All I got to say is loooooooooooooooooooooool.

Appologize for what? I wrote I just can't understand. It's like Christians caring all too much about Jesus. Thats how I see it, I didn't bluntly say they are kufr and am not gonna say that even if some people think they are. But the way they think is like christians when it comes to Ali........thats all am trying to say. Correct me if am wrong, but that would just be stating you're view point. I am open ears if you're gonna try to correct me and show me how am wrong. All you said was I can't compare muslims to christians. Well I didn't say they're christians! If you want to interpret my writing into what fits you're mentality then go right ahead!..

Thx for the answer render( forgot your nick) what are you trying to say, sorry but I didn't understand you. Og Girl There are laws everywhere but you know group of people can come together and bash companions of prophet muhammed (saw) without anyone knowing except allah. You know when I look at Christians and how inlove they are with Jesus because he died for them. Its like what's wrong with their thinking. I didn't even use to know such thing as shia existed. But now I do and I know more about them then just that they exist. Why do you people put so much energy into Ali and Ali and more Ali. Ali wasn't the messenger. Ali aint gonna do u nothing. I just can't understand. It's like Christians caring all too much about Jesus. If Ali didn't become a succesor so what? I just don't get it. Whats so special about the 12 imams of you'r anyways. They are just 12 imams whats the point of praying to their graves. And why do u people do temporary marriages. Is that how low women are to be treated like a rag and passed along? One month and thats it! A guy once tried to expose shia people and their hidden agenda and secrets but guess what they did to him. they killed him. True or not but I heard story about a women in Iran who married some old guy probably an iman but anyways and then a few months later he leaves never to be seen again, the women got pregnant and had a baby girl. Oh you know I heard that Iran has the greates number of kids without fathers present, yes the guys marry the women but once they need to leave they ditch the women and the kid. Continuing with the story once the baby girl grew up and that same old dude came again for some "temporary marriage" and married his own daughter. Now what were these people thinking temprary marriage is a good idea for? Why shia trying to change the message of Allah. Who is Ahlbeyt?????????????????????????????????????

I am not gonna try to answer you'r question because I don't know what ur talking about but all I have to say is I didn't know there somalian people who are shia existed.... I learned something new I guess. I don't know much about Shia people but from what I hear and see Shia people got it bad, I mean why would anyone want to beat themselves up or believe that the real quran is with a guy in some cave who disappeared ages ago!..... OG_girl we all know allah knows whats in our hearts, but come one thats not a reason to brush of everything! :rolleyes: I'll end with this One time I was going to pray at some place, and in that room where a group of shia people who were praying. Before I went in some girls were outside of the room waiting to pray once they were done and I asked them why are u guys not in there and they said "some shia people are praying there" And I was like how do u know they replied " they leave their hands by their side when they prey". I didn't really care so I went in wanting to just wait inside......... But once I went in my heart started beating like crazy, I got scared and as soon as they started saying things " ya ali" and arabic stuff I was even more scared.... I am not sure what to make of this experiecene... But I don't see any benefits or positive aspects of it... I know this wants ur topic, but I am making mine this! Oh one more things are u the type that bash the companions of prophet muhammed (saw)??????

Salaam to all As you all probably know a guy named mussolini from Italy once was a king or a ruler in Somalia..... I just want to know what you guys think of him. Was he a bad guy, I know colonize another country is not good. But did he do any good for somalia..... Also was Itally better than Britian because they divided somali up...... And is it true Mussolini united somalia? Thx for sharring (Always remember keep your eyes to the sky and your heart to the light)

A sad picture in deed, the man who took the picture definatly could not handle the pressure of the terrible reality of Africa.....However I wish he didn't commit suicide he could have found joy by being a icon and doing many things.... Suicide is just an escape for him, but what about the many more kids like that little girl.....But then again I could never know what he felt. There's nothing wrong in mentioning the famine that happened in Somalia.....It still continues to happen in many places but don't lose sight that Somalia is not the only place affected. Abayo suicide is wrong in Islam we all know that but this man was not muslim. Some people just feel there's nothing to live for in that kind of situation.....So his way of escaping the pain and memories that haunted him was suicide. I can say it's wrong but I do sympathise with him. Somalia may have suffered famine and but one thing I notice is that no Somali person ever reached out far enough to get help....Because I saw a documentary on the famine in Ethiopia I think in 1991 and one lady from ethiopia made a difference and got help from many people mostly singers.

Thanks for the replies everyone..........But I'd be happier if you guys/girls answered my question more seriously without talking about all the things you didn't enjoy about somali weddings. :rolleyes: Depending on how many weddings you've been to they all could not have been bad....Because I went to 3 and only one was not as good. Tell me things like What happens on the first day when the guy and the girls father and sheik meet....They get mehr I know that, but is she there with the sheikh and other men realtives? If not why? Are there any supersitions you've seen or heard of about somali weddings....I think they have a lot in somalia but focus mainly on Modern Somali weddings....Somali weddings in the west... What happens after the mehr? A party to for only ladies to celebrate the girls marriage or the wedding ceremoney?.........If you had to estimate how much money it costs to make somali wedding how much would it be... And any intersting facts......eg food, gifts or whatever else you want. Basically in what order does everything happen? Please tell me any superstitions if you know any.......... Again thanks to everyone who relpyed but please reply this time and make somali weddings appear to be the best wedding that ever happens .......If you don't want to then state the things you don't like about it and what you do like about it..........

Please tell me it isn't true.....

I want to know what happens in Somali weddings....What happens and in what order.... What comes first the Barambur dance ( where only ladies attend party) Or the Ceremony? After the wedding what happen? Are there any Superstitions......? Do somali couples after getting married go on a honeymoon? Also anything else you want to tell me about weddings would be nice too. (intresting facts etc) Thanks to all of the people that respond....

What can you study if you want to get into Social Science field in University. Social Science is a General first year thing but what choices do u make by second or third year. Also what kind of jobs can you get after graduating.....Other than teaching.????

Yeah Arabs wasn't the topic but it was mentioned and you were all offended but I was trying to tel ya you don't have to be cause we all have some racism in us. But if you're gonna have an attitude about everything anyone says then trust me so can I.... I am not a moderator and don't care what they think is write or wrong because I don't break any rules to begin with but I never said you broke rules I just said you addressed things wrong like the quran and what the people were doing.......It's opinion and your intitled to it but don't get all "dear" "dear" on me for making mine.

Aslamu-alikum I don't think there's anything wrong with praying in a plane or in public wherever it may be...I wouldn't be afraid to do it and I do sometimes. I think you all seem to be misunderstanding Action Jackson. All he asked was if it's okay to pary in public and showed a picture of muslim men praying on the plan together. TO O.G girl It's okay to be Arab and there's nothing wrong with it but as we all know there are racist Arab's just like racist somalians. So there's no need to fight it. However Action Jackson brother ther's no reason for you to insult a whole nation a nation that maybe somalian's themselevs came from. The first racist person was Iblis when he refused to bow down to adam because he was made out of fire and Adam was made out of clay. So brother don't let your emotion and the shaydan in you create hatred for other people such as Arabs. You should love all your brothers/sisters in Islam. Abayoo O.G girl I don't know why you need to reply in the manner you did. You can express your opinion but why try to degrade people who pray in public. It's one thing to think it's not okay but another to say "Just look at pictures specially first one, how they bothering other people, is that fearing Allah wants? to bother other humanbeen specially when they have other options?" They are not bothering other people they are putting Allah before other people. How can that not be fearing allah. The first thing Allah asks you on Judgment day is if you prayed and as you know no one will make it across the bridge that's gonna be as thick as one strand of your hair if the person didn't pray Salat. So don't say they're not fearing allah.....muslim people especially old men don't need to show off to anyone I am sure there intentions are clear. Allah knows our intentions so leave the judgement to Allah. Og girl you wrote Tolerance and respect is more important than your prayers. Are you serious, please ask a million people in your country if that is true and then come back and say that again. How could you say that....? When you say something please have evidence or proof cause your opinion doesn't make things final. The rest of the people who responded didn't seem to understand where Action Jackson was coming from but I kinda of do even though I don't agree with the way he responded to Og. girl. When I read this by O.G girl If you want to hear your self no need to post in public , stand front of the mirror and keep reciting it like Quraan. The Quran is an important scripture and you don't need to address it like that. It doesn't sound something reasonable to say.....What are you actually trying to say? I am not on anyone's side but O.G girl just seemed to have said a lot that I don't agree with. Who ever said this I think it was a moderator or maybe not but whoe ever it was....... I re-read your post and I don’t see anywhere that you corrected other nomads at all. All you have asked for was other nomads opinion and OG_Girl stated hers. If you didn’t like it, you should have kept your mouth shut. My opinion on the post is simple, those who prayed on the plane, have very little knowledge about Islam and no further comments needed. The whole point of posting stuff on hear is to get responses and when you don't agree you argue cause if everyone agreed..... , sometimes people's knowldege of things make other people learn new things and broaden their views on things. So there's no reason that Action Jackson should shut up if he didn't like what O.G girls said... Your opion on the post may be simple but not agreeable. You don't even know the situation they where in before the left whatever country they left. maybe they didn't have time to pray or whatever either way I don't think they have little knowlege of Islam. The people who are watching are learning something, so I don't see how they could be bothering them. The purpose of Salat is to remind ourselfs of Allah and to rememeber that Allah exists and that we can pray to Allah anytime we need help. As you all know we live in a fast pace world that we sometimes forget about our purpose in this world. Salat is constant reminder. When you pray your closer to Allah and when you don't your closer to shaytan and he has a control over you and start to lose touch with your religion gradually over time. So tell me how Tolerance and respect is more important then salat O.G girl. I am not saying Tolerance and respect isn't important it certainly is but not more important than salat. Matter of fact Angels don't like people to do things that bother other people example smell, swear, burphing in public ex. I couldn't help but respond to this post so if I am making you all read to much sorry.......Since this past year I can't see myself not praying how can anyone live in this world not praying when they know it's something that determins their future on Resurection day.....Only if you knew....... Thanks for reading this to everyone and O.G girl plz don't get ofended cause that's not what am trying to do at all....... and if I do offend you forgive me, but I hope you learn something and please

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Thanks to all you guys/girls who gave me advice Today I went back to the store Sears and I am glad to say I got half of my money back. There was a nice somali girl at the front desk and she worked it all out for me alahmdulilah......I was glad to get back at least that much. so the problem is solved........