Never forget ninka ka yimid baadiyaha cannot fight with civilization.

If its wishful thinking then why don't you live in Somaliland full time? Why do you live in London (surrounded by english civilization of 800 years) with your family and only visit Somaliland for holiday? Why is the kid Suldaanka living in Australia and not Somaliland? I will tell you why, it is because of the destitution and lack of real opportunity and fairness. Even Xaaji lives in England and not Somaliland. You cannot live and work full time in Somaliland (I know this because, I have seen it) because of the insufficiency in meeting basic needs of the people. My assessment is based on measurable metrics and guided by the logic "poverty is not unity" in the long run will be proven right. However, you seem content with formulated your arguments with clan kinship and propaganda like some East German stasi unit. It did not work for the communist then and it is not going to work for you now. In the end you are going to have to face the music or trouble will come. You maybe able to kid with others on here about your "state" but I have seen it in action and I am not impressed one bit.

He is a good actor I will give him that.

If things do not improve soon, matters will take a turn for the worse. Remember Somalis in the south were once "civilized" and had strong bonds too (talk to them about how they use to inter-marry), had a better economy and fertile farming land. They were happy with great potential, a carefree life...no worries. But look at them today...bonds can be broken.

No. There will be civil war in Somaliland if things don't improve soon (i.e U.N statehood). You may say that is impossible because of the "tight control" one clan has over the rest of the other clans (all clans are equally armed btw). UCID party (Mr Warabe) was the candidate for the last 17 years! and Wadani a party that styles itself after the liberal democrats here in the UK (they even have the same party colours lol), have not had a president only UDUB and Kulmiye (The same sub clan) had a president. Somaliland will experience small intensive conflict and then slip into full blown civil war between the various clan houses like in 1994-1995. Remember also this, Ghelleh is close to Somalilanders in terms of kinship than other Somali "controlled" territories. And he has not given Somaliland U.N statehood (Djibouti is a U.N member) what does that tell you about the case of Somaliland statehood? An inside joke. The implosion is coming, too much poverty too many lies... the house of cards will fall.

Galbeedi you make good points but you miss the most important ingredient. Which is Somalis do not have a healthy brain to work with, this is a foundational truth that cannot be ignored. The fact that the north was given top jobs in the kacaan government tells you all you need to know about Somali intelligence and vision planning; why did the north rebel against a government they had dominanted? Why didn't they build on the success of the pervious administration (1960-1969). Why was the clan issue not tackled effectively before things got out of hand? The answer is simple...Somalis are too emotional, impulsive, greedy and counter productive. They lost a country they were given in 1960 and instead of making it a success story they decided to self destruct. They rather live in poverty than have to be ruled by another clan. Utter madness.. If Somalis want to move forward they are going to have to confront why things are the way they are and deal with their issues instead of running away from them. But looking around the world I don't see things changing anytime soon.

...It seems you have run out of steam. After being solemnly defeated without a solid argument to boot you resort to calling grown men kids. Well You maybe an older man (from what I am told on this forum) than me in physical body but your mind is clearly that of a small child.

Nobody cares what you have write or say. You have no value to add. You write as if your have an intellect worth sharing. No Somali here reads your long diarrhea post that fail to get to the point quickly. There is also an older Somali saying, maybe you northern bushmen are not familiar with it: "Af daboolan waa dehab...becuase Carruuri haddii aad kuftid way kugu qososhaa."

^^Yes there is something else...you can piss off Oodweyne nobody wants you here anymore. Your clan has no history or cultural achievements you can name here on SOL; I have challenged you to produce your clan historical achievements but you can't because there is none to speak of. Now f*ck off back to the bush...waryaa were you belong you naked aborigine.

This Abiy guy is relentless and is now using Ethiopian finance minster of Somaliland heritage as bait.

I have seen that picture 100 times and it never gets old. Now we know SNM are not serious nation builders, just a private clan business were the few make money and the rest are fed emotional propaganda to distract from the hungry stomachs.

Abdillahi Yusuf Warned them 13 years ago in 2007. 0:24 mark till 0:44 mark. He even mentions certain clans which are welcoming to the idea of a SL being a federal member. But the important point was how he said 'your rushed to secession' you didn't think it over critically and now your bloody going around forcing Awdal-SSC regions to join you in your madness. It was shit fest that started with bad 'talo' and that bad talo lead to successive bad mistakes and isolation and now their stuck in this hole they can't get out of by telling they're people there is recognition coming yet they deep down know it's not coming.

The mountain of lies they have built the myth of the civil war would come crashing down. I suspect Bihi will orchestrate anti-Farmaajo demonstrations in Hargeisa.

oh... there seems to be an element of truth to this. I was under the impression Somaliland had outright said no but it seems there is talk behind the scenes within Somaliland political circles!

When the oil and gas money start rolling in, I don't want to see you in your rag tag clothes queuing up with your begging bowl asking for a handout. So keep prostituting yourself to the world (tell them about the dead bodies) I am sure U.N recognition is just around the corner.

My advice to the Somali government of Mogadishu is to ignore the bigots of the north-west sector and focus on improving government transparency , rebuilding Somalia with the oil and gas money, improving health, education and most important finishing off the Islamic terrorist. These things are more important that visiting a dust bowel full of hungery destitute khat addicted unproductive filth of the worst kind. Leave them to their shit and piss cities. They are not our kin so f*ck them.

No way this is true.

Yep I have to agree with your analysis of Somaliland and Egal. Spot on, you have it right. When tur refused to give up the title of president fighting erupted in Somaliland. This is why I think Farmaajo should not apologize until the SNM come clean about the things they did.

I not going to lie Puntland business leadership would be good for Somali government. They calculate their progress and don't over spend on useless things.

This is one of my gripes with Farmaajo, I don't know why he simply does not clean house and start from scratch.

You sound foolish bushman, read a history book, I am not going to babysit you.

Interesting that he apologised after the meeting with Bixi. I feel like something is happening behind the scenes we won’t know until later. Maybe Somaliland becomes a federal member state?

I will just leave this here for our emotional north men, as the truth.