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I would say in this case its quite contrary. 1. Both groups the Turkey/Qatar and Saudi/UAE that are only known groups to use terrorism for their political and economic objectives have none in Ethiopia. 2. Alshabab has long history in Somalia even the name itself from the 1960s. Shabab, IAI, ICU, Shabab have always been anti-Ethiopia in any version any name change. 3. Every governor, president, anyone with ability to use Shabab to political ends or economic fight in Somalia is in Mogadishu and some in the countryside, they have no direct interest in Ethiopia 4. The most important, but least mentioned is kililka's role. I do not have the link now but its a conference in Ethiopia where a Somali stood up and stated simply we are carrying the burden of protecting this country from terrorism, yet is not recognized with development and investment.
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Madaxda Maamul Goboleedyada oo gaaray Baydhabo +SAWIRRO 13th May 2018 John Snow Af-Soomaali, Featured 0 Madaxda Maamul Goboleedyada qaarkood ayaa maanta gaaray Magaalada Baydhabo ee Xarunta Gobolka Baay. Madaxweynayaasha Maamul Goboleedyada Hirshabelle, Galmudug iyo Jubaland ayaa siyaabo kala duwan loogu soo dhaweeyay Garoonka Diyaaradaha ee Magaalada Baydhabo. Ujeedka Madaxdan ay u gaareen Magaalada Baydhabo ayaa ah sidii ay uga qeyb gali la haayeen Shir ay yeelan doonaan Madaxda maamul goboleedyadda oo lagu waddo in uu ka furmo Magaalada Baydhabo. Garoonka Diyaaradaha Magaalada Baydhabo ayaa lagu sharaxay Calamadda maamuladda Koonfur Galbeed ,Puntland, Galmudug, Hirshabeelle iyo Jubbaland.
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Shebab warns Turkey over ‘military build-up’ in Somalia 13th May 2018 John Snow Featured, Somalia news 0 MOGADISHU, Somalia – The Islamist militant group Shebaab has vowed to launch fresh attack on targets run by Turkey in Somalia, a day after mortar rockets rained down on Turkish military base in Mogadishu. Sheikh Abulaziz Abu Muscab, Shebaab’s spokesman for military operations, says the group would double its attacks against Turkish mission over its incursion in Somalia. He says heavy loses had inflicted after mortar attack at Turkish military base in Somali capital. He did not mention the number of soldiers were killed or injured. There was no immediate response from Turkish mission over the Shebaab claims. Turkey has set up its biggest overseas military base in the Somali capital, Mogadishu, increasing Ankara’s presence in the Horn of Africa country. The base, which reportedly cost $50m, will train 10,000 Somali troops and has the capacity to train at least 1,500 soldiers at a time, according to Turkish and Somali officials. Turkey’s vast aid effort at the height of the 2011 famine endeared it to many Somali people, and it has continued to pour in aid, much of it from private companies. It has built schools, hospitals and infrastructure and provided scholarships for Somalis to study in Turkey. Turkey’s president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has visited Mogadishu twice, and when he made his first trip there in 2011 he became the first non-African leader to visit the war-ravaged nation in 20 years. With Reporting by Abdirisak Mohamud Tuuryare from Mogadishu, Somalia Somali President flies to Qatar
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Somalia launches constitutional review process ahead of 2020 elections Report from African Union Mission in Somalia Published on 13 May 2018 Mogadishu, 13 May 2018 - Somalia today launched the constitutional review process at a national convention held in Mogadishu and attended by Members of Parliament, religious leaders, civil society and international partners. Prime Minister Hassan Ali Khaire, who led the nation in launching the process, pledged financial and political support to the process to ensure the country gets a new Constitution by the end of next year. Mr. Khaire said there was need to finalize the constitutional process to unify the country, promote economic growth and above all deliver a new document for posterity. “I hereby confirm that my government has pledged $3million for the constitution process to be finalized. However, this pledge should produce a Somalia-owned document, Somali thinking, Somali economy, Somali advice and new Somali unity that rebuilds the Somali nation we lost,” Prime Minister added. Somalia is currently governed by a Provisional Constitution, adopted on August 1, 2012, after years of conflict. The federal and state governments plan to have a new document ready ahead of the one-person one-vote elections scheduled for 2020. Mr. Khaire said Somalia needs a new Constitution to accomplish the movement towards one-person one-vote to give the population an opportunity to pick leaders of their choice. The Special Representative of the Chairperson of the African Union Commission (SRCC) and head of the African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM), Ambassador Francisco Madeira, commended the efforts of President Mohamed Abdullahi Farmaajo and the Prime Minister Hassan for prioritizing the constitutional review process in accordance with Somalia’s Political Roadmap. “As we implement the transition plan and handover more security responsibilities to you the Somalis, this consultation and the subsequent voicing of your opinions on how you, the Somalis, wish to be governed, is the beginning of Somalia taking charge of its responsibilities,” SRCC said. He called for a wide consultative engagement, whose outcome should aim at facilitating a fair and inclusive political process in Somalia. The Minister of Constitutional Affairs, Abdirahman Hosh Jibril, traced the history of the constitution making in Somalia, which began in 2000 in Djibouti and later moved to Nairobi, Kenya, before the eventual adoption of a Provisional Constitution in 2012 through a constituent Assembly. “The agreement which we signed at the Office of the Prime minister last November made us become one united group without any divisions,” the minister said of the tripartite agreement signed by the Constitution Review Commission, the Parliamentary Oversight Committee and his ministry. Jibril said through the tripartite agreement, the Constitution Review Commission is determined to give the people of Somalia a new document as soon as possible so that the next elections in 2020 are held under a new political dispensation. The Speaker of the Upper House of Parliament Abdi Hashi Abdullahi, who also attended the convention, called for an inclusive process to enable the country produce a better document. “An inclusive constitution should be the foundation of rebuilding the government of Somalia,” said the Speaker, adding; “a federal constitution should clearly define the essential elements that are pillars of the rebuilding the country and implementing the federal system of government.” A women’s rights activist, Zahra Mohamed Ahmed, pleaded with the team reviewing the constitution to ensure the 30 percent quota for women was protected and the rights of the people with disabilities enhanced. The three-day national convention is the beginning of a process to give Somalia a new constitution to replace the 2012 Provisional Constitution which was agreed upon by 825 delegates at the National Constituent Assembly.
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Now that the speaker Jawari has been put away and it seems the prime minister has some control, is good news that the constitutional file is being worked on. The prime minister has provided the money and he wants this work to finish within a year. The simple fact that the constitution is being put as priority is great news. All the best. Even a rush rush one is better than none.
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In a cruel way, glad don't have t worry about sea or anything to do with it. Just joking. Kililka is smartest of all Somalis. Those of you that brag about being connected to the world of trade, empires, shipping etc are paying price for it. Every few centuries was like that. You never learn do you. Move away from the sea, is too dangerous. You either move away from the sea and be nomad or get on with it and build ships gun boats.... You can't have it both ways. Kililka will not act like the last 130 years of war. If you folks want to dance with all those who show up by your seas the Turks, UAE, Qatar, US, Britain, France, China, India...to no end have fun. And now to make matters worst Technology has speeded up history and the fall and rise of empires is shorter. You will get dizzy. Kililka will just pick and choose ports to use for the few things we need from outside. The rest is all yours, both the fun and the pain. How does that sound my friend. Bitter truth.
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What happened is since most of them had identity crisis they became Oromo and became Oromo Abo Liberation Front. They were participant in Ethiopia until 2000s. Mogadishu used to support them just by assumption that they are Somali or close to Somali. That was bad idea and consequence of that is there is some identity crisis to this date.
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Yemen's Socotra: The UAE's "Eighth Emirate"? Trendstorm 10:03 12.05.2018Get short URL Andrew Korybko 0 30 The latest reports about the UAE's dispatch of troops and tanks to the Yemeni island of Socotra without the permission of the internationally recognized government that it's supposedly allied with have raised eyebrows and caused some to remark that the territory might be slated to become the Gulf country's "eighth emirate". 00:00 / 17:44 The UK Independent published the first in an exclusive series of reports last week about the Indian Ocean Island that its journalists recently travelled to, revealing that the UAE was for all intents and purposes in full control of this territory despite there never having been any presence of the Houthi rebels here. This prompted the Yemeni Prime Minister to take to Facebook to condemn what he called the "continuing disagreement" and declare that "correcting this is everyone's responsibility". The UAE's official response is that its military presence is being "distorted" by what it described as "malicious campaigns led by the Muslim Brotherhood", though unnamed sources told the al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper that Yemen was considering asking the UN Security Council to intervene in restoring Sanaa's sovereignty over the island. This surprising development comes as the UAE and its Saudi coalition ally are still in the throes of a low-intensity disagreement with one another over the future of the former country of South Yemen, whose Emirati-backed separatists staged a so-called "soft coup" in Aden at the beginning of this year against the Saudi-supported international Yemeni authorities there. Prior to the 1990 unification, South Yemen controlled Socotra, so any UAE-backed secession could see the island fall into Abu Dhabi's hands by proxy, that is, unless the Emirates stage its own separatist-within-a-separatist campaign like some analysts have suspected might be around the corner. From a strategic standpoint and little-known to the rest of the world, this tiny country has taken on an outsized importance lately by establishing a military presence all throughout the Gulf of Aden. Apart from South Yemen and Socotra, the UAE is also building a base in Somalia's self-proclaimed independent region of Somaliland, with all Emirati-aligned sub-national regions allowing Abu Dhabi to exercise influence over the waterway through which the bulk of EU-Chinese trade must traverse. Bearing this global strategic significance in mind, there's certainly some logic to why the UAE might seek to directly or indirectly make the centrally positioned island of Socotra its "eighth emirate".
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I aalso give you more names and will try to explain the above as well. From an Ethiopian registerd parties list of 1997: WSDP (Western Somali Democratic Party); SPLFP (Somali People's Liberation Front Party) SALF (Somali Abo Liberation Front) ESDL (Ethiopian Somali Democratic League) These are in addition to ONLF and others. Mr. Samatar by the way is very biased person and he does not hide it. He would never mention why kililka people came from Mogadishu to Ethiopia. He makes it look like they came to get power in Ethiopia. On the contrary some of them walked part of the way barefoot, from the civil war in Somalia and what had happened in Mogadishu. He is completely biased. SDL was working underground util 1991. A number of Somalis in the Ethiopian government today can credit their movement on SDL either were active before 1991 or became members after 1991.
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Since 2004 mostly and since 2010 completely every district in kililka has elected officials. There is not a single appointed administrator. I am sure you know as well as I do that every failed brother blames tribaly rather than with real facts of the case. The sad or funny thing is what are called Illey people were also murmuring of Liyu being full of others and Illey is using others to rule over his own. Don't give it too much credence, its not reality of the kilil. The Oromo, I think you were the one who put an analysis here at SOL identifying the different power wings as Amharayzed, East (Moslems) and animists. I know which one you support, sometimes at expense of your fellow Somali, but it so happens to be that its the group that is in direct competition with the Somali in economic and development issues. Both have nomads and the competition for money and projects that comes for nomads.
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Did you find that ONLF and other organizations were important/ As I said by 1985 the Somali people have been split into so many organizations. UWSLF, ONLF, SDL, SILF, its many of them. History for political use is not good, history should be done by uninterested but knowing people. Hard to rely on those that are now in Mogadishu, Addis Ababa, Diaspora, Hargiesa, Garowe, Jigjiga..etc too much spinning. For now the Somali people were one of the most important people that overthrew the Derg. That everybody agrees. Did they benrfit from it...question but the fact of their contribution is well accepted. That is what I would say too. Need to be written by persons who can analyse information and who have no direct interest to use it in politics. Should be written as history of people, not as leader or organizations. Need resources which will come in time, but not now.
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Quite the contrary my friend. Its not whom I support. It is the reality now in Lebanon. Regardless of you and I wants or wishes, the Sunni in Lebanon does not want to fight alone and destroy his home, family for no purpose. The split by constirution is 64 each christians and Moslems and the Moslem 64 is divided Shiia, Sunni.. and the Shia is divided to Amal and HizbAllah. Who committed more war crime against Syrian Sunni? Assad or ISIS? Who wants and did to destroy Syria? Once the Turkish saw what was happening in the areas they agreed t monitor with Russia, the Turkish soldiers started working with Syria government. Was hard to believe for them somebody would do that in the name of Sunni in the name of Islam.
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cubano, You may need to use more than one source for every major incident or year or name of organization. The internet is single person opinion for the most part. And you know how people write is just absolutes. There were about 8 organizations at one time. ONLF was started by 6 leaders split from WSLF. SALF had Oromos in it. Hopefully there will be development and there will be resource and capable educated folks in Kilil who can put it together for education of children. Now there is no time, resource or persons to do that. Diaspora are good for development works, not good for history documentation.
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Its hoped that from here on our administrators of kilil and zone will be praised or blamed for what they do and never for which clan or sub-clan thay are from. You can blame Illey and his administration for everything under the sun, but for all Somalis cannot be which clan he comes from. His detractors in Ethiopia are as follows from highest to lowest: 1. Amhara opposition: Even though his administration has been very accomodating in providing service in Amharic or translations where warranted, they are very unhappy that all functions of kililka are done in Somali language. They also accuse him of having hidden agenda of preparing the kilil in everything from village to military power and running it as a country. Again they accuse him of Allying closely with Tigray and Afar where nomad's problems with Afar are solved easily yet problems with Oromo are gone to dangerous stages. The Oromo also were expecting the Somali to be sidekick in their struggle for power and economic development, instead in a decade has become competitor. The Oromo are extremely angry. They did not see the Somali sppeding in their rear view mirror until he arrived in the side, blind spot. That has raised few eyebrows all over Ethiopia. 2. With in kililka is hard to specify which party or group. kililka has been at war this or that for 130 years non stop. Its so exhausted economically, way of life, and is so behind in development, no peace or security for people for more than century. You can only do everything about history low key. There are areas where the Sayid is a vilain and not a hero, ONLF is toxic in some and hero in another. Ziad Barre and Mogadishu is a nightmare for some and unsolved dream for others. But if you put things in perspective people are tolerant and can tolerate a villain if they know is a hero to their brother, as long as the brother does not overdo it and demand that every Somali should observe. 3. Just kidding: Somalis who love the Jawars more than their own. If you do not respect your own no ally will respect you. Actually they will despise you if you diminish your own to make them happy.
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Galbeedi, If there is a lesson learned this time by kililka people, it is the Oromo method does not work and any Somali that wants to use it in kililka has no other objective than destroying what has been built in terms of government administration infrastructure, development plan and very important unity of the Somali people. The only questions that the Somali people need to accept, discuss and resolve are: Government: This governor or this officer does not work, is corrupt with facts and demand change Education: How many km are children walking to nearest school. Elementary, middle, secondary, technical. There is measurement for every issue. Argue and demand your share with numbers. Health: community nurse for so many 1000s, clinic, health post, general hospital all has measurements Roads have also measurements and responsibilities. Example village to village roads, town to town roads, zone to zone roads, cross kilil highways. The politics that of this clan or that clan does not work and pretty soon will be history that kind of argument. If anyone tries the clan or sub-clan method, first time will be seen as curiosity, second time will be told his/her wrong ways, third time the whole kilil will come like ton of bricks and straighten out.
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There is always some group that gets stuck in past history, some in nostalgia and some of their personal experiences of love and hate. Otherwise all political organizations in kililka have for all puposes and practicality died. All are dead including ONLF. People of the kilil for the most part are too focused now on Surviving the threat of draught and very critically not to miss even the little development happening in Ethiopia and Djibouti. Food production, health, education and infrastructure are most important issues right now more than any politics. Right now any Somali politician who had not shown any interest on these objectives has no place in kililka. Being simply a politician, chief of area, even just simply Shiek is becoming thing of the past.
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Simply the UAE being in the island is future threat to Somalia. All major powers are gathereing around critical sea lanes from Asia to Africa and Europe. I hope the Yemeni sign an agreement with Turkey to develop the Island soon enough. They can agree to do this regardless. They can get agreement even from the Houthi secretly. The only problem is south/Aden are captives of UAE right now.
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In late April 2018, small and sporadic anti-government demonstrations surfaced in the Siti Zone of the Somali Region. The anti-government protests were unarguably isolated and insignificant, as the rallies were conspuciously clan-oriented than political-reform based. Discussions followed the surfacing of images of these unusual anti-government protests in Siti Zone. These conversations, shortly after, resulted in one of the largest series of counter-demonstrations witnessed in the Somali Region. Men, women, youth, government employees, businesspersons, students, elders, clansmen, educators, religious clerks, artists and, overall, the general population organized themselves to send an unignorable message to the regional and federal government, fellow community members and the world. The message: We are in support of President Abdi M. Omar, the Ethiopian Somali People’s Democratic Party (ESPDP), the current status of development, unity and security – and nothing can change it. Below are some of the powerful photos taken these past few days: https://hornaffairs.com/2018/05/09/photo-essay-thousands-of-ethio-somalis-rally-in-support/
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Good idea. Conditions. All Somalis agree to be goverened by Federal system Since kililka is most experienced and most knowledgeable with federal system will take charge for decade or more Somaliland issue will be negotiated and kililka has good offer for them to give their fellow Somali one more chance and no war Mogadishu will cease to be capital just a port, if it becomes largest city in Africa all power to it, New York is more wealthy far bigger than Washington DC, Toronto is far bigger than Ottawa does not matter. Either new capital in between in HiirShebelle or Bay anywhere in that area or existing town be federal capital. The province will not have state staus, will not be in senate just like the American one. Of the existing only Puntland will be left as is, rest will be dismantled borders changed and re-established states. Major cities that have conflicts like Kismayu, Galcaayo will be federal for 10 years after that will vote. How do you like that? The basis for balance in the federal system will be reformulated by basis being Sub-clans not clans. Clans creates unfair and unbalanceable system.
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