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I told you. Try at strategic consulting. seriously. People forget that even the money and industry in china is western money. Its the same money going back and forth through same banks and trade between same companies. Russia is actually most dangerous for west..does not make textiles or trinkets, has natural resources her own, and is technologically at least in war staff comparable to them. But even russia is under same bankers.
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Trump is going all for broke here, one of them will stumble. If markets crush then Trump is loser if China crushes then its western benefit and America may not gain much of it. The funniest truths are: " Pakistan is the only country in the world that negotiates with a gun to its own head." " That prompted the new government to grant a Chinese company a controlling share of the big, empty port at Hambantota in a debt-for-equity deal, and panicked India enough to explore buying the world’s emptiest airport 20 kilometers away — " Countries are like individuals, its buying cloths to look good for a day and never to use them again when you can rent for 1/20th the price. If Somalia had its act together could have been milking all these stupid big wealthy countries. Gelleh did that, but went too far putting America and China next to each other same floor next rooms in his hotel.
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I don't know why you find that funny. Kililka has 6-7 million population, every clan sub clan of every Somali on planet earth, population all over the map from independence, autonomy or join and mix in Ethiopia like our galbeedi suggested with Oromo.. People at war one way or another for more than a century non stop.
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This cry is for more than a goat. Its deep in the factions of TPLF And still deep in the factions of EPRDF. Nothing seems to be settled yet solidly. Each side is expecting bigger problems from other side. Iley is speaking truth, how much of it is completely story will never know. The Security chief and defense chiefs are different factions and Iley working relationship and close friendship was with defense like Samora Mohamed Yonus the ex chief of staff.
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I am Tigray.lol Tigray are out or keeping below radar like Ghelleh and I am still with you here. Turkey and China stars in Ethiopia are also down or keeping low profile Sudan not a beep I am still here. Iley will leave one way or another its almost 10 years in this position. You might have an idea what 10 years of leading Somalis can do to you.
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UAE Central Bank injects 50 USD million cash in Somaliland Central Bank
Old_Observer replied to Suldaanka's topic in Politics
The way UAE is showing largesse around and encircling Djibouti makes one think, I wish I had any shindig even a district to my name/control in this mining area. -
Getachew Asefa and Iley did not and do not work together. You have to understand that there is Militia, regular police, and liyu forces, intelligence and defense forces. How were all these entities functioning will come out slowly and economically. Your main objective should always be guided: 1. How to make sure never happens again 2 How to do justice to victims by applying justice on perpetrators and those who committed cruelties 3. Avenge with justice, but not revenge. Revenge is always the seed for the next cycle. The governor of Amhara kilil has been in power for maybe 8 years, yet all cruelties done there are blamed on federal and not kilil president. Why what is the difference?
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That is the key issue. Actually demanding or expecting for kililka people to do something or make a move in Ethiopia when the whole situation of Somali people the way it is, is downright foolhardy, destructive and even cruel. Protecting culture, language, developing as much as possible, but always under strong autonomy is what is important and most constructive job to do.
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galbeedi, Just between you and I lol Getachew Asefa the chief of intelligence and Samora Yonus the chief of defence staff are like enemies. Cat and mouse. That is how Meles also managed. Closest TPLF to Iley is the defence people. Getachew Asefa was never close to Iley. Iley actually went in to the office of the intelligence folks after 10 years. The side of TPLF that Samora was, was removed from leadership of TPLF some time ago. Getachew Asefa is close to PM Abiy and the rumour is that he is his intelligence advisor which a post he never filled after retirement of Abadulla. "We see the chief of CIA make statements, interviews, appear on TV and media, how come we have never seen Getachew Asefa as Ethiopians" Illey in the same meeting. The talk is for more than a goat. Don't get on your horses yet. But has been good for Iley politically and smart move. If Abiy can blame everything on past, why not Iley? What is good for the gander is good for the goose.
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While Abiy was away...is he the only guy to follow Iley what he does what he says? Article 39 main initiator, supporter and defender is the Somali. You know why the Somali did not join EPRDF was that in short time we will separate from Ethiopia, therefore no need to get entangled. ONLF wnated and did this, but did not succeed and when you fail you have to be prepared to live with consequences. Fortunately autonomy was built into the system and the Somali took advantage of it. A Somali as the system currently is cannot be PM in Ethiopia, but a Somali can be master of his house depending on his capacity and will power.
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galbeedi is also missing one very crucial truth in his zeal to join the Oromo. If kililka does anything to Somaliland it will be for benefit or loss of kililka primarily. Lets just say for fun/silly that kililka installs government in Somaliland I can assure galbeedi that it will be mirror image of government in kililka. If you are not happy in kililka don't expect to be happy in the kililka made Somaliland. Actually will be more unhappy. If Djibouti did that to Somaliland result will be same and if Somaliland did that to Djibouti result will be even worst for galbeedi. Regime changes are made primarily and always for the benefit of the one doing the regime change. That is probably why galbeedi hope is all 100% tied to Oromo and never with a Somali.
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Don't forget everybody does the things they do for themselves first. Population is not an issue yet and growth of population is comparable if not more growth in kililka by fraction. The Moslem Oromo maybe more comfortable in Ethiopia than the Somali, but not happily settled even with other Oromos. Assimilation is two way street. One will dominate at the end. Since the Oromo have now a center in Ethiopia and unfortunately the Somali people don't have a center anywhere, even in Mugadishu the Oromo will dominate. I know you don't have any problem with that, but most Somalis do. Refugees graduates is comparable. But consider that the Oromo are graduating in the 10s of thousands and the Somali people may have 500 students on scholarship from around the world. The Oromo have this number in China alone. They get more scholarship in Egypt more than Somalis.
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lol You want kililka people to do the work for you and destroy Somaliland? That is smart if you can wing it, but I don't think so. People living in glass houses should not throw stones. Kililka has excellent relation with every bordering Somali state or republic itself. Don't play clan politics with your neighbors and they will stop playing clan politics with you is the policy for most part. The experience between SNM and WSLF did not achieve anything, but only hard feelings and sabotages.
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Tigray have no reason historically since as you know they are the core and foundation of everything Xabeshi, they also don't have the international situation for independence. Israel may always prefer them but only if they are in Ethiopia can they be useful. The only way Tigray and Afar would separate is making war and taking over Eritrea which now they can do. Eritrea is dead in every field economically, socially, culturally, mistrust Ethnics...same as republic around 1988. But the international situation is all against them to take over Eritrea. Even other Ethiopians will prevent them. Ghelleh is smart Somali. He will stay under radar and everything will blow away within a year. There is already signs of it between different groups of Oromo within themselves and groups of Amhara, and also within themselves jostling. Each one has groups already softening their stance on Tigray. This is third world.
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Good idea, but do you know you are creating political conflict that will never help you materialize what you want? Not just are you creating conflict Kililka and Somaliland which I know you want, but Puntland and Djibouti will be in and the conflicts in the south will look like child's play since all the entities in the north and west are well armed, fairly well organized and foreign countries want them more than they want in the south.
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For the most part its under Oromia, not DDSI. Kenya is also involved partly since border town. Actually the Somali there in my opinion should rely more on the Somali in kenya and Jubaland more than kililka. What ever friction they have between clans and sub clans of Somali should be secondary and get together and unite in this. Problem is any friction among Somali is always primary and friction with others is always secondary.
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Iley has a lot of enemies: Territorial Irridentist Ethiopians accuse him of preparing kililka for separation, independence. This is the most of the opposition to Iley, but is mostly never declared openly. Neighboring kilils think Iley is clearing out and preventing others like refusing Federal army inside kililka and doing all the work by kililka itself is preparing himself for bigger role in Ethiopia. In the general aignment of forces in Ethiopia he sides mostly with Tigray, Afar and South, but not with Oromo and he is neutral or distant to Amhara (who suspect him of separatism if things don't work in his favour). Inside kililka is partly clanish When ever you see HRW in any place, expect to follow the Shah of Iran situation. HRW is not a religious organization. Its a political. Innocent Somalis entangled in the system and being victims of overzealous police, too many fronts to fight, lack of capacity in educated, modern bureaucracy and police in kililka. Corruption, drug dealing, contraband trade...mixed with political, clan, and tribal competition and conflicts.
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ONLF is holding its conference in Eritrea. The groups of Somali, Somali/Oromo that are campaigning or conducting concerted campaign on Iley are also against ONLF. Its a cruel game where some Somalis are willingly becoming game sets rather than players.
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Have you ever thought something like this for Somalia?
Old_Observer replied to Old_Observer's topic in Politics
lol cubano, I think you are missing one basic fact. WSLF or UWSLF...common thread is only that the people are Ethnic Somali people. Other than that WSLF sometimes is totally Ethiopian and plays only in Ethiopian forum, sometimes its half half looking to the Republic and looking to Ethiopia...All this requires change of organization, strategies...etc The one thing consistent is the Somali people in Ethiopia want to govern and if possible rule themselves. -
Ethiopia says re-opening roads to Eritrea's Red Sea ports a priority
Old_Observer replied to Deeq A.'s topic in Politics
This is all to bring down Djibouti or bring it back to negotiate with UAE. I don't think will succeed, but the funny thing in politics is that its the same person that signed the Berbera deal that made the statement. He is a Somali to boot. I think he knows Eritrea cannot replace Djibouti for at least 20 years and if that is everything goes so smooth. -
galbeedi, Again you try to cover your intention with some false economic benefits to Awdal or other areas. The real truth is business will go to Eritrea and Djibouti will be cut to small size or come begging UAE to come back. That is the real intention. In this all Somalis loose. No body gains anything. The only gain for some of you is that some clans may be down and others may be up but all poorer, all going backwwards and all destroying what has been achieved. And when the Amhara or Tigray come back which is normal in politics since the Oromo will tire too, then the clans that went down do a payback and the Somali people is tripping each other for others benefit and not moving forward. Remember that even for the Oromo Assab is more important more controlable than Djibouti and the Afar are probably more manageable than the Somali.
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OK. Let all you said be true. Here we are. What is to be done? FYI Tigray are also 4 million (Somali and Tigray are 6 million each just using your number 4) and 4 separate Ethnics and languages. Oromos are 30 million at most not more I don't know if you think 50 is more intimidating.
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Have you ever thought something like this for Somalia?
Old_Observer replied to Old_Observer's topic in Politics
These are guys who are from few previous groups including one of the central committee members of ONLF. What was WSLF in 1991 joined already the parties and groups that was about 200 of them in Ethiopia and one faction did not join.
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