Not exactly. That is why they are acting fast before kililka puts together some of the loose ends. Ethiopians and Jawar have been pressuring Abiy to take steps because they believe every day that goes by Somali is getting stronger. Some Somali are also wanting to take Iley place with short cut, because they know will have no chance in orderly transfer.

For good reason. Wouldn't you have been frightened at the gathering clouds and fast moving winds? Even Ethiopia is under Eritrea in this case totally. Eritrea chose the Oromo and Eritrea's new masters oblidged. All money faucets for Ethiopia were shut down now they are opening already. All the Oromo demonstrations now are quiet yet none of the questions have been answered. The Amhara did not want Federalism, kilil..etc but all those questions now are going away. Almost all oposition wanted transitional government yet PM Abiy in Washington DC (little Ethiopia highest collection of PhDs, ex-colonels generals, priests..you name it) told them there will not be one. "I will be your transitional government leave that to me" while laughing and they applauded.

You have valid blame in my view, but at this point the situation is not possible for Farmaajo to do anything but comply. All Farmaajo can do is have understanding with Ghelleh. Let alone Farmaajo even PM Abiy is now complying and subordinate to Eritrea. Eritrea has manpower, money, diplomatic cover to do a lot of damage in Somalia if the dictator even has personal beef let alone American Arab mission. As long as everybody understands why some statement is not important done under duress.

I agree. The problem is every time it gets closer, the Somali splits, because they can see power and think can grab it before its set up. The Ethiopians also recognize the risk of the Somali getting ready and bring all their tools to good use to put the Somali few steps backward.

I think that is a far out outlook. No beesha can be an enemy. The first enemy is actually beesha this beesha that approach. How did all the Somali parties from different beesha and provinces got together in 1984, 1994, 2005 and agreed self government as minimum program and common program and succeeded?

The same story all the time. Anyone that wants to have a go at the poor small Tilly, will go to Addis Ababa find support from there then create all kinds of excuses. Now there is this word called democracy, yet its a democracy that says mr. Y from O cannot be president and Mr. Y from O cannot be leader of opposition. The cart before the horse. Ask anyone how many wells will you dig more than the next man, how many schools will you open more than the next man, how many consultations will you do with nomands...they become deer in headlights. In the first place there is an achievement already that is self government. Every Somali worth his salt need to recognize this and protect it like his eye lid. Even ONLF recognizes this while it was the target and victimized the most. There were times even district governors came from other Ethnic speaking another language and the Somali had to find interpreter to plead his case. Army and Police marauding every village from different culture, language and even faith.

Who do I see here. Its not acceptable you sneak in back here without opening an announcement thread or the thread opened in search of you. Well come back. You were missed. Is your uncle included in the book the travels to Aden India..

They already did one round. Talks will continue. UAE and SAUDI are also competition. Qatar must have one big life saving secret they know and have kept it in safe place. That is the only way they survive. That secret must be big enough to affect US, Britain...with terrorism and related. Otherwise even Gaddafi could not survive alive.

You are disappointed of the case with Eritrea. Formaajo has no options really. Everything is stacked against him. I would be disappointed only if he was too childish not to have talked to Ghelleh even before he left to Eritrea. He probably should have stopped in Djibouti on his way back, but that would anger Eritrea and Shabab.

Djibouti has won small/big victory. Sanctions on Eritrea have not been lifted. I gues was too much to take for the British and French and even China. The Arab caravan has moved into the desert and missed the water well. The next well is far away.

My first and still now instincte is fake news. Eritrea is hitting while the iron is hot everywhere and Eritrea might have forced Farmaajo even threat of Al Shabab indirectly to say things that he shouldn't. When African dictators have wind behind they become dictators of other neighborhood as well.

I think this is fake news, unless the amount of fake news has intimidated us questioning every bit of news. Farmaajo is no match for Eritrea. Eritrea has all the tools all the stars all the dough everything in the horn on its side at this time, just when everything was on Menelik side 100 years ago. What Formaaajo could have done is speak generally when he got to Mugadishu that he will help to his ability for peace between brotherly Djibouti and Eritrea.

maakhiri, I don't work for anybody to post my views, but that is beside the point. Federalism can work on any society. The only difference is efficiency. Efficiency is not the main problem for Somalia, but stability is and federalism relatively is more stable than unitary governments for long run.

Yunis, If you did it for political reasons that maybe, but in such a short description you have two very big mistakes: Iley did not even mention generals once, all he mentioned is the intelligence Iley did not say they made me do it, they did what they wanted in hiding in exclusivity. Even PM Abiy just stated that even government ministers of federal government or parliamentarians no body knew what is inside those buildings. Now he allowed opposition leaders to vist the buildings, but before that Iley after 10 years for first time went on his own with Liyu and had found out. The blame and accusation on Iley is how did you allow the intelligence to set up an exclusive prison and interrogation and even killings to occur in an autonomous region? At the very least you should have gone inside yourself and checked. The weird thing is the ones that were Iley friends like the chief of staff and generals have retired/fired/changed...yet the chief of the intelligence that Iley exposed is still around Abiy.

Looks like was in house meeting of Oromo. I guess both sides of Somalis were not enthusiastic either way. I was expecting a lot of ONLF flags, just for the advertisment, but OLF and ONLF are never close never good friends.

What makes Somalis so different than all kinds of other societies that federalism cannot work. It works in Canada, Switzerland, India, Somalis are Islam faithful that makes them different from all these countries, but that should have been even more bonus since many of these countries have religion based conflicts. In Canada its not only French British its also indirectly Catholic and Protestant and you all know that Catholic and Protestant were worst than Islam Christian or even Islam Judaic. Somalia is now impossible to have centralized government for simple reason that the central government will need million beaurocrats to service trivial village questions that have developed into big problems. Regional governments can take half the work load for much much less money and solutions decisions they take are more closer to people. Even if not loved will be tolerated. Central government will never be tolerated.

I don't agree that Liyu is evil, but that is beside the point. In a country like Ethiopia and the Somali being very unique (never an insider in Ethiopia) something like Liyu is absolutely necessary. If people do not know that you are capable to stand on your feet in time of trouble, will not respect you in time of peace. There is no more disrespected in Ethiopia as people without options. I think the people should ask ONLF to make a statement and then any measures can be taken in ONLF name. Its limited what kililka can do in territory that is not federally with in kililka.

I see you repeating this as if its brand new eureka. OK the devil Iley and Tigray got you here. Now you are in trouble. What should you do? Both are not masters anymore in case you have not noticed. Some conflicts especially localized once are conflicts that happen regardless of who is in power. The difference is if the one in power makes them worst or calms them or controls them or solves them. And even if you take Iley out those you may have hoped are not solving it either. Actually issues that have been relatively controlled before have simply gone out of control.

We are where we were in 1900. Don't expect Iley to act as his predecessor rebel. Afwerqi is acting just like Italians (Trying to be most important in Horn and connect Somalia to Eritrea) Ghelleh is acting just like the French (gateway to Ethiopia supporter but no need more territory) Abiy is acting exactly like Menelik (accepting every European demand as long as they support him in his shindig) Puntland is acting like the Boqor (isolated and danger from everywhere) Somaliland (just like British secure what they have and if need be take from Kililka or Puntland) Mogadishu (acting same way already comfortable with Italy and going about life under Italians) Only actors have changed which is natural. The game is same.

This is the worst of all the circus going around. Isayas now has chance to read riot act to Ghelleh. Isayas has stick of America, UAE, Saudis, Egyptians...all of them who had been waiting with anger at Ghelleh. They really wanted to show they are in control especially UAE. Soon they will overdo it. Al Bashir won't be far behind to be paraded.

I always wonder why people do not focus on this one item. Bad good or ugly nothing can be done properly without constitution. Even to know whether properly implemented or not, one has to have one in first place. Every SFG, TFG avoided this and are getting away with it. Now Eritrea will tell them forget it..don't need constitution. lol

Very wierd. But that is how it always have been. fate of peoples countries determined by seemingly inocious things. When it rains it pours. America, UAE, Saudi, even EGYpt as begging bowl,...storm for horn of Africa. Somalia is just lucky or unucky being the physical and one time moral horn of Africa.

Qatar calls for radical solutions to Somalia's crisis Date 7/29/2018 6:12:28 AM (MENAFN - SomTribune) The State of Qatar has invited the international community to join forces to find radical solutions to the crisis in Somalia so that it can maintain its sovereignty and achieve national reconciliation, noting the efforts and concrete steps taken by Somalia at all levels for the benefit of the Somali people. This came in a speech delivered by Minister of State for Foreign Affairs H E Sultan bin Saad Al Muraikhi, at the International Partnership Forum on Somalia on Tuesday in Brussels, Belgium. The Minister of State said that the broad participation of the international community in the Forum affirms the common will to find radical solutions to the Somali crisis so that the country can maintain its sovereignty, achieve national reconciliation, establish security on its territory, build its institutions and provide a decent living for its people. 'This can only be achieved through joining the efforts of the international community,' he said. 'In order to build on the momentum that has been achieved, we must continue to make initiatives to support Somalia, honour the commitments we made, respect Somalia's sovereignty and not interfere in its internal affairs, in accordance with international law and the political declarations made in this regard, in addition to providing full support in the fight against terrorism, which we condemn regardless of its pretexts, and strengthening cooperation between the federal government and all its states without marginalising any party,' the Minister added. He emphasized the importance of increasing support for African Union Mission to Somalia (AMISOM), particularly the by United Nations, pursuant to Chapter VIII of the Charter. He affirmed that the State of Qatar would continue providing relief assistance to Somalia and other affected countries, thus assuming its responsibility as an active and responsible member of the international community, out of the belief that peace, security, development and human rights are interdependent and are the only way to avoid extremism, violence and terrorism. MENAFN2907201802070000ID1097215242

The usage of these words in the Horn of Africa varies from place to place. For example in northern Ethiopia Moslem/Islam is most commonly used, where as in south central Ethiopia Muslim is now most used. In Kililka the old fashioned traditional is still dominant other than some active and visible Muslim preferring ones. How is it in the republic and in the diaspora among Somalis? Here is an interesting article that got me thinking. Among 12,000 Moslems of recent converts, there is already 4 groups with some differences. One of them clearly Wahabi. https://sputniknews.com/latam/201807291066732443-islam-maya-muslim-community-mexico/

Trump seeks to revive ‘Arab NATO’ to confront Iran The Trump administration is quietly pushing ahead with a bid to create a new security and political alliance with six Gulf Arab states, Egypt and Jordan, in part to counter Iran’s expansion in the region, according to U.S. and Arab officials. The White House wants to see deeper cooperation between the countries on missile defense, military training, counter-terrorism and other issues such as strengthening regional economic and diplomatic ties, four sources said. The plan to forge what officials in the White House and Middle East have called an “Arab NATO” of Sunni Muslim allies will likely raise tensions between the United States and Shiite Iran, two countries increasingly at odds since President Donald Trump took office. The administration’s hope is that the effort, tentatively known as the Middle East Strategic Alliance (MESA), might be discussed at a summit provisionally scheduled for Washington on Oct. 12-13, several sources said. The White House confirmed it was working on the concept of the alliance with “our regional partners now and have been for several months.” Saudi officials raised the idea of a security pact ahead of a Trump visit last year to Saudi Arabia where he announced a massive arms deal, but the alliance proposal did not get off the ground, a U.S. source said. Sources from some of the Arab countries involved also said they were aware of renewed efforts to activate the plan. “MESA will serve as a bulwark against Iranian aggression, terrorism, extremism, and will bring stability to the Middle East,” a spokesperson for the White House’s National Security Council said. The spokesperson declined to confirm that Trump would host a summit on those dates and sources cautioned that it remains uncertain whether the security plan will be finalized by mid-October. Similar initiatives by previous U.S. administrations to develop a more formal alliance with Gulf and Arab allies have failed in the past. Washington, Riyadh and Abu Dhabi accuse Iran of destabilizing the region, fomenting unrest in some Arab countries through proxy groups and increasingly threatening Israel. The alliance would put emphasis on Gulf heavyweights Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates working closer together with the Trump administration on confronting Iran. It is unclear how the alliance could immediately counter Tehran but the Trump administration and its Sunni Muslim allies have joint interests in the conflicts in Yemen and Syria as well as defending Gulf shipping lanes through which much of the world’s oil supplies are shipped. A senior Iranian official told Reuters that “under the pretext of securing stability in the Middle East, Americans and their regional allies are fomenting tension in the region.” He said the approach would have “no result” beyond “deepening the gaps between Iran, its regional allies and the U.S.-backed Arab countries.” Potentially a big obstacle to the planned alliance is a 13-month-old rift pitting Saudi Arabia and the UAE against Qatar, home to the largest U.S. air base in the region. Other Arab nations have accused Qatar of supporting terrorism, which it denies. While one source said the administration is concerned the quarrel could be an obstacle to the initiative, he and an Arab official both said Riyadh and Abu Dhabi had assured Washington the rift would not pose a problem to the alliance. The NSC spokesperson denied the rift was a hurdle. As Trump pursues his “America First” policy, the White House is eager to have U.S. allies worldwide shoulder more of the burden in confronting regional security threats. The UAE is ready to deploy more troops across the Middle East to counter its foes as it believes it can no longer rely on Western allies like the United States and Britain, UAE minister Anwar Gargash said on July 26. Setting up a regional anti-missile defense shield, which the United States and Gulf countries have discussed for years without result, would be a goal for the alliance, a source familiar with the plan said, as well as training to upgrade the countries’ militaries. Tension with Iran has increased since Trump announced in May that the United States was pulling out of a 2015 international deal to limit Tehran’s nuclear ambitions. Last week, Iran dismissed a warning from Trump that it risked dire consequences “the likes of which few throughout history have suffered before” if it made threats against the United States. http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/trump-seeks-to-revive-arab-nato-to-confront-iran-135156