The Dubai Court of Appeal fined the Indian waiter Dh3,000 and held him responsible for the accident due to negligence. Thats muwatani racism at its best, fine the poor guy who is making crumbs because he is an Indian after all. :mad: The father is seeking medical, financial, moral and emotional compensation for the accident which took place at the hotel. translation-the Russian father is seeking a BIG PAYOUT. They're going for highway robbing....Allahu Akbar! North, Dubai has talk radio too.....walahi this is ajeeb. They are imitating the gaalo tit for tat. Talk radio is unprincipled. This means anything goes on Talk Radion because the aim is to 'Air Out' everything for the sake of 'Talk'.

Originally posted by Johnny B: Sceince is not concerned with what is 'evil' or 'good' , those are prefernce taggs used for expressing how a person or a thing is related to a person or a thing. And to judge your enthusiasm you're way too challenged evolution-wise that is, but to humour you , lets see what observations are you talking about, " Why are humans not still evolving"? Every absurdity has a champion who will defend it. ^^^^ nomen est omen, nomen est omen, nomen est omen

I found the above fascinating. It almost sounded as what a sufi would say. A brother suggested that I send peace and salli to our belowed prophet (saw) whilst touching the black stone at the Haram and you will be in different plane spiritually (kinda out of body experience type). Needless to say, I recalled this conversation whislt I was kissing the balck stone and waan ku salliyey nabiga (saw). Nothing occured. Maybe I was lacking spiritually. Literalism at its best!

Salams, They are all crooks! Crooks... The Insurance company for selling insurance for a box of cigars. That was a definite high risk item and greedy broker who sold that policy should have his licence revoked and be banned for life from selling insurance. The greedy lawyer for knowing that the policy was absurd and committing fraud. He should be disbarred for such unethical practices...but ofcourse he won't be because the blame lays in the 'ambiguity' of the insurance policy. This might be a simplified and an extreme case of abuse of the judicial system; however, this is common practice in law. Court cases are dragged on for years based on jurisdicational issues and technical terminology. There was recklessness on the part of the lawyer and this should have been a frivolous claim thrown out the court. The Judicial system is rot with foulness and corporate America is a master at this. Having a strong legal department in your firm is absolutely crucial. I have seen some examples were in the individual had excellent cases but were dismissed in a court of law because some solicitor raised jurisdicational issues. Its a foul world out there....

Originally posted by Ghanima: The country is not shairah ruled hence them trying to force it as such is just day dreaming. Although they may have had the right intention, their actions were misguided and mis-calculated, and it shut down a whole system of education and source of live hood for so many poor young people, who lived and studied there. Not to mention that the government will now supervise, governmental control via its stooges and new maadressa systems. I agree but we plan and Allah is the best of planners. This was a very well established institution that has been there for decades with thousands of students. I think that mixed intentions got in the way and some of the shiekhs became alittle overzealous without thinking through but I also think that they were forced into such a situation due to circumstances that were set off by Musharaf and his lackies. Hey Zafir, where have you been? I like your new Burger King commercial for the whopper

Originally posted by Ghanima: Why would any one question is faith, he is just reporting what he saw :confused: These women are toe rags. 7000 students aren’t exactly a minority, nor are they strangers, they held the upper hand and abused people. Everything has rules and regulations in Islam, who told them to intimidate people, take the law into their hands and kidnap people. What kind of Islam is that? Abuse Islam for your own twisted ideas and mis-using hadith is a big crime. May Allah forgive them and guide those who are still alive. Ignorance opens many doors, knowledge is golden. Why would any one question is faith, he is just reporting what he saw :confused: I can't recall what your old name was, but anyways... Just watch the videos and his narration. There is an overwhelming tonality to his narrative reporting that screams western-liberal biase i.e. the student became 'radicalized' and came to the Mmmadrassaaa after his father died These women are toe rags. 7000 students aren’t exactly a minority, nor are they strangers, they held the upper hand and abused people. I don't think that you have a right to critique them from your 'air conditioned' home. They were very disciplined and very patient. The government wasn't handling the situation that was occurring in their own backyards-so they took it up themselves to deal with it. They even respected the 'mistress' and had her wearing a burqa and apologizing to the media for her immoral actions and business endevors. Look, this students were attacked and brutally massacred by Mushraff and his lackies. Inshallah, they will enter jannah-Ameen!

Salams, My family and I watched this and they kept questioning if Raageh Omer was even a muslim because of his line of questioning and narration in the documentary. One interesting point is when some of the students walked out, they were offerred 5000rupees (pakistani currency) as a reward for walking out on their shiekhs and also promised a better 'Madrassah' then the one they just left. That just got me thinking about the hadith about the people of Medina and how the Dajjal would call them out and they would run out towards him even though the Dajjal himself couldn't get into Medina Sharif. Wallahi, the word of the serpent is very inticing wanucudu billah min dhalika!

Originally posted by Viking: quote:Originally posted by Khalaf: ^^^^The Qutbi approach has been creating Dar-al-Islam within Dar-al-harb. Are you saying that is not feasible therefore negate the duty of creating dar-al-islam? Why don’t you take a crack at that one adeer. I think what I (and xiin I suppose) mean is that this particular approach makes Muslims living in the west passive. Some think that since it's not Muslim territory they should not be engaged in political affairs, yet they still continue living in these lands. To make a difference, one has to take part. Participating in politics does not give a muslim community Izza/Honor. For the later comes from following the deen and adhering to its principles. It there is no unity of the hearts btwn the common muslim or even the local Ulama then too persue politics would be fruitless. You don't go out and campaign without a united front. To do would be an absurdity!

A Marriage that produced 10 kids has some history there.... InnAllah Macaa Sabareen Consult with your local Imam not SOL'ers Fi Amanillah

Naden, You are an enigma! Walahi cajib, who would of thought that such an impressive response and explanation btwn the being/existence (Nabi) and function (Rasul) (salallahu caliyhe wasilm) would come forth from you. As a Messenger (function), HE (salallahu caliyhe wasilm)was infallible because that is what the function demanded. His utterances (quranic revelation) and sayings (ahadith)reflect that infallibility and it must be so. As a Nabi (being/existence), He (salallahu caliyhe wasilm) did error at times. E.g. At the battle of badr, His camel sat at the wrong place, deeming that it was a source of water. The Sahaba corrected him on that. In anycase, we have digersed and the crux of my original post is being misplaced. Wa akhiro dawa an Alhamudulillah!

^^^ Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should speak a good word or remain silent." Reported by Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim

^^^ As you can see, of late-I have become gentler!

Rudy, MashaAllah-I impressed. LayzieGirl, I have a hard time believing you because your responses on SOL do not reflect of a mind set of someone that holds the Quran dear to them, wallahu yalim! But maybe you have changed recently and to hear that you do carry the Quran with you regualarly is a pleasant suprise, walhamdulillah!

Originally posted by underdog: So who gets to decided if an Imaam is good or bad? The avg. muslim populace decides-that is the democratic ideal. Hey if the audience doesn't like the idea of jihad-delete it from the khutbah. How about paying zakat? Delete that tooo. Pro-Hijab and Niqaab-delete that too out of the friday sermon. The avg. westernized muslim would agree with deleting certain comments that are deem 'anti-liberal' i.e. women and men are not equal, support the Shariah etc... I think what you're saying is if an Imaam in France was to speak against the Hijab ban, you'd say "I agree with you but I not with you on this. Lets go to an Islamic country so I can vocally be on your side" is that accurate? Spot on! Those are the sentiments of the avg. westernized muslim. "Imam you are right but don't preach that at the sermon. Do it in Syria or a cave in Afghanistan"

Originally posted by Khalaf: What do you think? What do you envision when you think about an islamic state? Do the Muslims (ie you) prefer living in the states, Europe, ect? What would happen to ipods, tvs, music, movies all the things we enjoy? Your thoughts people. a) I don't think that the majority of contemporary muslims would be happy in an Islamic state because many confusing an Islamic State with the idea of economic prosperity and socialism. The Shariah is there to uphold and make the word of ALLAH Supreme. It is there to perserve the muslim and grant them certain islamic rights. b) Muslims do prefer living in the west because it allows them to become 'complaicent', comfortable and feed the individual ego. Living in societies wherein God becomes secondary in our lives and the Individual takes first place can be really fun. No one can force you to pray, fast or pay Zakat. Your kids don't have to know how to pay, grow beards or wear the hijab. You can just about Finance a home, a car, a child (if you can't conceive one) etc... and its all thanks to the interest-based financing system.

Still, the system itself is not that bad. The real problem is with those applying it and those affected by it. When I wrote earlier about a citizen in a democratic system, I spoke about how such a citizen knows his rights and understands his obligations. In an Islamic system, most citizens don’t really know their rights or understand their obligations. For the most part, it is all (sadly) about: If Mullah says we should do this then we should do it and if Mullah says we should not then we wont! An Islamic system does not fail because those in charge are corrupt (they are human and are prone to sin). An Islamic system really fails because there are no sufficient checks and balances that would prevent a potential corrupt/self-righteous government from abusing its powers. The biggest of these (checks and balances) is the UNDERSTANDING of the general population of how such a system should work. Only when people understand their own rights and responsibilities in an Islamic society, and when they also KNOW the privileges and duties of an Islamic government could such a system work. Alas, not many do and the Mullahs are, simply, always right. There are 'Checks and Balances' in the deen. Why the Rasul (salallahu cailyhe wasilm) was corrected on many occassions by Allah in the Quran. 13 times Hadrat Omar gave Advice to the Rasul (salallahu cailyhe wasilm)cand Allah corrected the Rasul (salallahu cailyhe wasilm) and took Omar's side. In fact, Hadrat Omar was even corrected by a female citizen of the state during Jummah Khutbah and in the deen, if the khateeb is outline regarding the Shariah they can be questioned about their khutbah at the Jummah. The Ulama have a responsibility and according to the quran, they are the most fearful of God and according to the quran, the most honored in the eyes of God are those that are Muttaqun (God Fearing/God Conscious) and being Just is a quality of taqwa. Problem is in human error. The corruption of the best is the worst and what gets highlighted in the media is exactly that. You don't hear stories about Ulama who have donated their entire belongings to others to help them out, our how the Taliban cleaned up their country from tribalism and 11yrs of civil war, or how the Imam of Iran use to sleep on the floor and lived very humbly. The biggest of these (checks and balances) is the UNDERSTANDING of the general population of how such a system should work. Only when people understand their own rights and responsibilities in an Islamic society, and when they also KNOW the privileges and duties of an Islamic government could such a system work. Alas, not many do and the Mullahs are, simply, always right. Its not just question of confusion but rather of Iman. The majority of the current muslim populace don't really care about their Akhira. Its not a priority. Just go to the avg. muslim home and see how many people will pray with you in the home, during salat time. The confusion lays in comparing two diametrically opposing worldviews and scoring them on the same score card. Accountability goes both ways; unfortunately the secular worldview seperates the individual's accountability from government accountability. Society is never a reflection of you and I and our actions never affect others, as long as they don't 'physically harm others.-The Liberal Democratic Motto....

Originally posted by Naden: What if the dead guy: 1. Stole money from his company on a regular basis OR 2. Molested the neighbour's 10 year old kid OR 3. Hasn't visited his ill father in the hospital for weeks. What if the reason he was in the mosque was: 1. The neighbourhood sheikh bullied him at every instance OR 2. The father of a girl he wants to marry frequents it and he wants to look good OR 3. Maghrib prayers is the best time to sneak out of the house while the wife nags about the kid's homework and then slink off to the coffee shop. What if the dead guy is not dead at all but seeking sanctuary from the guy in uniform and taking a vow of bowing? Or maybe the picture is fake like that Saudi player video that shows paranormal jumps before the death? Beauty is the splendor of Truth It is obvious that you can not see the Beauty and the symbolism behind that picture. Whether it is a forgery or the person was criminal is irrelevant. Allah yahdeeka!

Northerner, God was merciful to him by permitting him to die in such a state and in such a blessed place. Such a soul is definitely a Mutaqi if not a Wali/Saintly soul. Imagine the nur on his forehead when he is resurrected and he will be with all those great souls of this Ummah. Allahu Akbar! I pray that I might be worthy of such an honor, ya al muqadim, ya al wajid, al qayyum, ya al rahman, inshallah. North, where did you get that picture from?

Naden said: I find Islam a dominant language of discourse nowadays. A book is not plagiarized and unimaginative, it is unislamic. A bad movie is not a useless bore, it is unislamic. A new theory of the evolution of gills is not shaky or more fiction than science, it is unislamic. Those items are viewed as "Unislamic" because they take the "Sacred" out of the picture and critique with a dull knife-all that is sacred. Problems is that Scientism and secularity have been mass branded to the point of polluting society as a whole. You can't escape this anti-traditional worldview unless you in the Sahara. You can't square Scientism with Islam. Scientism is the antithesis of Religion. It promotes functionality as self-serving i.e. Descartes "I think therefor I am". I think that your frustration lays in not having being exposed to Muslim Intellectuals who are not apologetics and have penetrated through the facade of Science. Try reading the works of Syed Muhammed Naquib Al-Attas, Rene Guenon's works and Seyyed Hossein Nasr's book on Knowledge and the Sacred or Science and Civilization. In the opinion of charlatans , the answers the muslim world seeks are not with scientists but with a temple guard, preferably one on an Arab space channel. This fellow will be termed ‘sheikh’ (or a top sheikh, a supreme council sheikh, or a Dr. Sheikh) despite Islam freeing people of the shackles of high priests. This sheikh will most likely grow a large beard and even larger belly (from not walking a step and not lifting anything heavier than a cup of tea) and wear a sultanate-style turban to seal his identity as a high priest. Are you calling yourself a charlatan?

Ahhh, the business of "playing monopoly" wherein the rich get richer and escape regulation... Cayman Islands anyone? Sophist, Are you a Commercial Barrister? Islam and Hedge funds don't go together. Making money out of nothing aka out of "Risk managment" is akin to interest.

Khaleej Times Online >> News >> MIDDLE EAST Blair set to leave amid Mideast speculation (AFP) 26 June 2007 LONDON - British Prime Minister Tony Blair spent his last full day in office Tuesday facing growing speculation that he would be named as an international envoy to the Middle East. Giving his final press conference a day before he hands over to finance minister Gordon Brown after 10 years in power, he did little to stem speculation that he could be named as envoy for the so-called Mideast quartet. ‘I think that anybody who cares about greater peace and stability in the world knows that a lasting and enduring resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian issue is essential,’ Blair told reporters. ‘And I will do whatever I can to help such a resolution come about,’ he added, after talks with California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, the last foreign politician to visit him before he stands down. His comments came as envoys from the quartet -- the United States, the United Nations, the European Union and Russia -- met in Jerusalem to discuss the latest crisis there. They made no statement after two hours of talks, but it was unclear if a statement could be made from elsewhere. Blair’s official spokesman declined to comment on speculation about an announcement, but underlined the urgency of the situation in the region after the recent bloody factional fighting in the Palestinian territories. ‘Clearly recent events have given that situation added urgency,’ he said, adding of the Quartet meeting: ‘It’s good that they are meeting. In terms of what the outcome will be, that’s a matter for them.’ Schwarzenegger was keen to pay tribute to the outgoing British leader, backing him for the Middle East job -- but also suggesting he could be an envoy for the fight against climate change, one of Blair’s key priorities in office. The ex-Hollywood actor said he was ‘very happy’ that envoys for the so-called Middle East Quartet countries meeting in Jerusalem Tuesday were discussing the proposal that Blair become their representative. ‘I think that he is without any doubt a great, great diplomat and is very very knowledgeable about this. And it will make me feel good if someone like that will be there and negotiate,’ he added. ‘But for a selfish reason I hope that he becomes an envoy for the environment and brings all the countries of the world together to join some kind of treaty -- a Kyoto kind of treaty -- that everyone can join and we can all together reduce greenhouse gases. ‘Maybe he can take on both of the challenges?’ he added. Blair is leaving office after a decade marked in the early years by record popularity and enthusiasm after long years during which Britain was governed by Tories Margaret Thatcher and John Major. Under the stewardship of Blair and Brown the British economy has enjoyed a record sustained boom. But the 2003 Iraq war soured his image, and in recent years he has struggled with falling poll ratings and political infighting, culminating in a political coup last year which forced him to pledge to stand down early. Brown, who allegedly orchestrated the coup to finally get his hands on the keys to 10 Downing Street, was finally crowned as Blair’s successor as leader of the ruling Labour party on Sunday. On Wednesday Blair will leave Downing Street for the last time after making his final appearance at midday questions in parliament. Following tradition, he will be driven to Buckingham Palace to formally tender his resignation to Queen Elizabeth II. Shortly afterwards Brown will also visit the queen to ask her if he can form a government. On Tuesday Blair could not resist a joke about his imminent departure. ‘My press officer said to me, whatever else you do this morning, don’t say: ‘I’ll be back,’ he quipped, standing next to the Austrian-born star of the ‘Terminator’ films. Source

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: NacalatulAllah caliyhe.

I miss the indian ghettos in the UAE where they would have the Big Cinema with the 3hr movie on thursday night. Disco Dancer was huge back in the early 80's.

Originally posted by Zafir: In that line of thinking, if one is committing adultery one should murder too?? Please explain your 'flawful' logical fallacy aka Red Herring How does a European Casino Manager make a statement about "Muslim Values" when his azz is managing a Casino in Muslim Land.

But the moral of the hadeeth is about the NIYAH domain. When two Muslims fight each one ( mutually ) having a premeditated intention to kill the other due to a dispute for a worldly gain, pride ( each one thinking he is better than the other). I agree and the niyah does manifest in a person's actions and methodology. Siding with kufar over muslims and saying that your Niyah is for Allah is Hypocrasy/Nifaq. Wanting the rule of Jahil over the Shariah and killing other muslims for that reason is Hypocrasy. Blowing up buildings and masajids and betraying the precepts of the Shariah is Dhulum. The Niyah can't be right because you would be afraid of your actions in the qiyamah about your dhulum/wrongdoing. Here are possibilities. 1. A person who has a right, but going about it the right way. 2. Person who has a right, going about it the wrong way. 3. Person who has NO right going about it the right way. 4. Person who has NO right, going about it the wrong way All these scenarious are centered on 'Personal Rights', thus stem from an individual centered outlook. If God's rights are being violated to justify your Personal Rights, then you are a dhalim/unjust person. I would argue that in most of these jihadist movements, mixed intentions run rumbant among the masses and within their Ulama e.g. Hamas considers Arab Nationalism as a Tool that should be used to unite the Palestinians. It all melts down to the idea of Muslim brotherhood, we shouldnt harm each other and should be comforters amongst ourselves. We are adviced not to call each other bad nicknames, taunt each other as starters.. Why because in doing so you could hurt your brothers feeling or cause rancour to crawl into his heart - an opening to Shaytan and his whispering We should love and support one another. Because once anger, hate or rage sets in we (humans) can forget of our affiliation and take revenge or kill. Islam has strict rulings on this matter instead of taking revenge, it teaches humility to forgive or give blood money to save blood of another muslim to be spilt.(Suratil Qisas) Easier said then done because ghaflah/forgetfulness and lack of awareness of Allah runs rampant in all of us and we often put our own 'INDIVIDUAL RIGHT' about the TRUTH. i.e. Haqqi/my right, haqqi at all costs... Once the sword is raised among the muslims it will never be put down unil the Qiyamah