Originally posted by siphoningdilemma: che, U have cause me more dilemma than I hoped for. you tell me how can i argue with a female masked as male. Please spare me , thx You talking about SOL ladies or the real world? You know a similiar issue follows other communities too and guess what the solution has been - a free for all sex escapade btwn diff. races otherwise known as 'Acceptable Dating'aka cross cultural. Is a wife’s education an asset to the household or threat to the family order? The education is not the issue but the questioning and rejection of concept of HEAD of Household is. It is a case of MISEDUCATION. When navigating and anchoring any vehicle, you can not have two competing Pilots. There is always a LEADER and that recognition must be there.

What the real question that should be asked is: Does the Animal = the Human? Johnny, whats your answer?

Why do muslims participate in surveys and humor the media cohorts? bloody wankers!

The role of the CYNIC is to be cynical of everything except their own cyncism. Its shear absurdity but that is the mark of the times. A time wherein all theorems and ideas have become subjectivised. Is this about Hawkins in Cambridge? If not, then who is this Dawkins?

This is for all those SOLers that are infatuated with Obama's run for Presidency - mainly because he is a Black Man (He is acutally Bi-racial). Obama visits Israel and says Stopping Iran from obtains nuclear weapons is a priority Sounds like there is no limit of a politician as to how low they will stoop to win. Its a good political move on his part to go to Iraq and Israel to ride the bandwagon of "fight agains Muslims aka Terrorism". Whats next - expansian of Guantonmy Bay into South Florida in the name of 'Justice and Fairness'

Originally posted by peasant: quote:Originally posted by Adam Zayla: imagine - as you walk home from work minding your own business, suddenly a HIPPO jumps out the bush.. If that think ever falls on you, you would become part of the under ground.

Originally posted by -MARX-: I am now offically of upper middle class stock. It was my graduation today. Its my ticket up the social hierachy. Most SOLers with a degree are of lower middle class stock. This is since they havent adopted the cultural consumption of the middle class. need i say more! So what was your degree on? and do you have relevant employment experience to get you from your "middle class state of mind" to the world of bill collectors sending you love letters "Helllo mate, you owe us $60,000 in loans....Oh, your only making $10/hr, well thats too bad. Now pay uppppp!!!"

but to prove who was responsible for it and why the Palestinians are paying the price. What they are saying is if the Holocaust ever happened then why not give the Jewish people a state in Europe. It is the work of the spin doctors in the media to take something and re-word and give it a whole new spin - to sex it up. Hamza Yusuf could have used his power and influence and actually wrote better, as in - pro-muslim. When the danish cartoons incident occurred, he went to denmark and said that muslims love danish cheese (hence a boycott unlikely) and did not assert the islamic perpective on blasphemy. Now he writes an article with the thesis that Muslims Deny the Holocust - subhanAllah! :mad:

Originally posted by Johnny B: Read Ibn Ishaq,an Arab Muslim historian. He collected oral traditions that formed the basis of first biography of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. How ironic - Johnny Boy giving advice on reading about the Prophet who's sayings and teachings he rejects?

Originally posted by Ibtisam: If it was a somali man, you can bet your last penny, her clan would've tore him apart and cooked him alive. Only time I'm pro clan! Dangeroussss!

Ibitisam, The creditability of these people is never an issue for the media. Reason being is they provide what is needed - an anti-muslim soundbite from an ex-muslim/ex-member emphasize added. For the media whores, that is sufficient for them to put them on air. If there statements are in congruence with the current sentiment of the day i.e. muslims are terrorists and are a danger to society, then their statements will be accepted.

^^^^^ I smell lawsuit against that drug company. They might have to do a recall and put all in CAPS on the medication that IT IS NOT FOR THE CHEST area. I can see some folks trying to use it now as vaseline - for the lips!

What the critics want, is a religion and religious figures at the service of the state, which blesses war planners, honors war criminals, arouses mass hatred of state-designated target peoples.

The shaytan always tries to sleep through any cracks-SubhanAllah!

What is noticeable about the rhyme in this chapter is that the end rhyme of the last two verses resonate the sound of the word ‘al-kawthar’, what is meant here is as if the sound of the word ‘al-kawthar’ is extended to support the overall theme that the Prophet has really been given an abundance. It is as though the word ‘al-kawthar’ has been exaggerated and phonetically elongated to further highlight its meaning and enhance the overall persuasive power of the structure. Please also see ‘Semantically Orientated Repetition & Rhythm’ above. I really like this brother's usuage of linguistic tafsir turned sabab an nuzual(historical reason/situation of the revelation,tawail (quranic exegsis) Well said. But how would you reconcile the understanding of those who recieve a deeper layered meaning with those who only understand the aparent? The Awakener2 At the end of the day, it is really a gift from God and not something that is just earned, although reading the quran and doing qiyamul layal may help. Ofcourse, the dhahiry ulama did the same yet didn't have the understanding of greats like Imam Ghazzali, Suyuti, Qunawi, Razi etc. What some of the shuyukh have suggested is making analogies and infact, that is how Allah communicates to Bani Adam when describing Heaven/Hell i.e. river of honey, burning fire etc. Fi Amanillah

Ah, pragmatism at its best thanks to scientific engineering. If the cattle and sheep are costing too much to feed, just feed them dead carcasses If the crops are rotting, just inject steriods into them and voila - perfect crops and now, If it ain't raining, then sprinkle some chemicals into the skies and voila - you got rain!

Salamz, JazakAllah khayrun for sharing this linguistic tafsir of sura al-kawathar. The greateness of the quran is not in its language specifically. It is in its layered meaning. It is a well that never runs dry - as long as there are people willing to drink from it. BarakAllah fikum

Originally posted by Malika: The investors have moved away from stock and bond markets and toward commodities hence the rises in food prices and fuel. The earth can not keep up with the hoarding of 21st century man - Subhan Allah! These brokerage firms are real wolves! :mad: Profiting from a world crisis - shift your stocks into commodities and resources such as oil and gold. If the system works on demand and supply, why is the supply suddently LOW this year? What factors come into play i.e. drought, oil prices etc. I know that many of these price hikes are a result of the rising cost of delivery due to increase oil prices and overhead costs.

Originally posted by shaken and deterred: you mean you liked superbad and knockedup??? yeah, this movie is completely different. for one thing, its targetting a slightly smarter crowd (yeah, the dialogue is smart, tongue in cheek, and aimed at people who need their intellect validated by understanding big words... i fall into that categuory) Superbad and Knocked up are comedies and they achieved their point - to make people laugh and fall in love with their characters. They are not social commentaries and nothing is to be expected of them in that regard. June, on the other hand had the movie critics praising it and saying that it deserved 'Best Picture'. If there is a main message in Juno, it is the new age message of 'The Only thing Right is What I think and feel is Right'. Here are some of the messages in that movie: Teenage pregnancy happens, so just accept it. Surrogacy and trading kids and giving them up for adoption is Acceptable, albeit some might have reservations about them at the end of the day, they are acceptable and valid options Divorce is a natural course of marriage Parents should accept teenage pregnancy and support their daughters through such times. Do what YOU feel and think is RIGHT b/c you control your destiny On another note, The main character is cynical and this cynicism is not to be confused with intelligence. Its a trait of the IPOD generation.

Salams, I just watched Juno the other day and am still scratching my head over it. What are the critics raving about? :rolleyes: Its definitely not like Superbad or Knocked Up.

Originally posted by shaken and deterred: quote: Are guys spoilt for choice? Having the luxury to choose,whilst girls wait until approached by the desirable kind,then and only then to make the choice..Whilst men,can mix and match until their heart desire..[just thinking out loud].. i dont think so, but we have the mentality that we are supposed to wait to be picked... khadija, the mother of the believers, went out and chose her man (pbuh). the power to control our destinies (which Allah swt ultimately controls) is in our hands, but we concede it to the other side. there are a VAST number of good brothers, looking for marriage and some are comfortable with being the one taking the first step, but its a step that makes someone vulnerable, no matter the gender and social roles we play. i wish i could follow my own advice though. im the first to pull this card of "be in control" and "take ownership", but im a real chicken. im trying to overcome it though. [/QB]According to the ahadith, there are 4 perfected women: Mariam, Asiya, Fatima Az-Zahra and Khadijah. Khadijah was given such a high honor precesily because she made it in the dunya/world and was rich and affluent. It is the very fact that (even though she was older then the Prophet (sallahu caliyhe wasilm) and wealthier, she gave him deferrence, the respect and recognition that he was the imam of the household. That he was the leader of the household and that she trusted his decision making. She had all the things of the world going for her but it is her recognition of her role in the family coupled with her success in the world that sets her apart from others - Allahu Akbar. This recognition was in here prior to revelation/quran was sent down. So to compare and have the expectation that a muslimah can achieve the same recognition in her spouse after attaining a univeresity degree and elusive career placement, is unrealistic. It is this delusion that has so many muslimahs frustrated with the concept of marriage and how to seek out a marital spouse.

Mubruuk saxib, If this is your first, then sleepiness nights and time on the couch await you The birth of a new family member is always a happy occassion and a very religious one. Come to think, for anyone feeling depressed or agnositc, I'd recommended a visiting to your nearest birthing center.

Originally posted by Naden: Okay, I read your statement once more and I was going to come back to it once we’ve discussed your shura definition. Let me ask you a question. A slave, as most people understand this word, means someone who has no opinions and in the end, NO choice in what he or she does. The Quran in more than one instance says that a muslim has a choice[/n] to believe or not to believe, to follow or not to follow guidance, to do good or not do good, to love God or not. Is that the normal relationship between a slave and a master? Nadine, What do you value in the 'democratic' model that you don't think is valued in other models? What appeals to you?

The practice of blessings by the Pope are usually conducted for those that passed away. This new pope seems to be going out of his way to insult muslims.

Northener saxib, You and JB got it made. Unlimited spamming privileges on SOL all day. Where can I apply? JB, Does everyone else in Somaliland work as hard as you? :cool: Peace in the Middle East and Burco.