Cicero said: There has to be an impermeable 'wall of seperation' between religion and state so as to guuarantee principles of equality, freedom, and justice in society. Why must that be the case? If you espouse for equality and freedom, why can't muslims be dictated by the Islamic tradition. Why can't you accept their traditions, if you espouse equality, freedom and justice? Are you and the likeminded individuals, the Definers and Legislators of what is good for Muslims?

I'm not going to justify myself to anyone as it's between me and God but I feel that you understand where I come from when I start to question matters when I see Muslims start to taqliid and not ijtihad... Why do modern muslims hate to "follow" authority (more specificially authority that stems form religious tradition) aka Anti-Taqliid and redefine the idea of 'Ijtihad' to that of xuuriya/freedom and individualism i.e. I make my own deciions, I create my destiny and all such notions? Ibti, sometimes waa la xiishooda, walaal. Modesty is part of one's faith and constant chitter chatter isn't.

Alshabab has already staged suicide bombings in the North, so blackwater can easily simulate such actions. How is that possible? I thought that the shabab were responsible for all the killings and deaths in somalia, puntland, somalialand, xafadhi jamaa farax iyo idil abdi nasr. They are the current escape goats and they are a hot item - right Meji!

Salamz, So today I went to the gym early in the morning before fajr time. It was tough, I couldn't lift a thing after cardio and I went without eating anything.

1. Malcolm X (What a story, what a movie!) 2. Crooklyn - Loved every minute of it. 3. He got game

Are there any machines to buy to monitor your BMI?

It is Johnny B that started the talk of "beating" and Ibti egged him on (as a joke). THen Juxa began cursing Sayid Somali (which is breaking the rules) and Sayid responded with a threat (which is against the rules). Waryaadha, iis dhaajiya. This is what happens with mindless chatter....

Che, Yaaa jealous waxaad! Just join the club saxib. Time is ticking... Those dudes do sound very feminine though. It is the kind of discussion that duumrakaa have, when they sit down together. Men talk about about politics, sports and the latest single mother.

Originally posted by dhagax.: I was like, naa ma anoo reer hebal ah ayay hooyadaa idiidaysaa, nin Jameekaan ahna raali bay ka tahay. [/QB] Saxib, forget about it! It had to do with your cash flow....and there is no discrimination in $$$$$.

Originally posted by Khayr: who is nastexa on fb? and where are all the politiking punks of SOL not on FB? Paragon is no longer on there and why do we have so many folks from Michigan when SOL is dominated by damnnn brits.... Where are all the UK folks? the ones I see are all young (just in uni. )

Fu-Fu, sorry to hear about the robbery saxib. At least, you are alive and well. That is some scary stuff, waking up to a robbery or sleeping during a home robbery. It happened to my brother once and lucky for him it was day time and he woke up.

Originally posted by General Duke: Che, of course if the man was to her liking and decent. I would rather have that than an ***** who happened to be from the "big" clans. There is no doubt. Why descriminate my own people for no reason other than it's the norm? k den, so Suuldanka can bring his son to marry your daughter. A Puntland and Sland union!

"No, of course not" and then quickly leave Waar kaabaxso ASAP! Wise words, wise words indeed!

Originally posted by AYOUB: ^ Akhii even great theological debaters like yourself do get asked questions by laymen like moi, especially when the titles of threads are not so "generic". Anyways, do carry on as you were and apologies for wasting your valuable time. Watch it there ayoub, or else xin and the other "mad" lot might label you being supporters of the much hated group they often mention. Xin, if you bring a topic to the forum and bring about a debate, then answer people's questions and don't rebuke them, saxib. Shame on you!

who is nastexa on fb? and where are all the politiking punks of SOL not on FB? Paragon is no longer on there and why do we have so many folks from Michigan when SOL is dominated by damnnn brits....

If you a preventing people because you are a "highway robber" then that is dhulum/wrong doing. However, if it is for valid reasons and proection then it is a different case.

If you a preventing people because you are a "highway robber" then that is dhulum/wrong doing. However, if it is for valid reasons and proection then it is a different case.

If you a preventing people because you are a "highway robber" then that is dhulum/wrong doing. However, if it is for valid reasons and proection then it is a different case.

A starving man usually doesn't set conditions for those alleviating his starvation - that is if he is rationale and has his own welfare at heart. You've heard the saying - beggars can't be choosers no? I'm afraid this is a simple matter of common sense. True but does that mean that I come in, give you food and take your family with (as pay in lieu)? After all, beggars can't be choosers. What the boyz are doing might not be wise at such a heightened momment but I can't blame them - the world's after them (for what - association with an infamous gang?)

A starving man usually doesn't set conditions for those alleviating his starvation - that is if he is rationale and has his own welfare at heart. You've heard the saying - beggars can't be choosers no? I'm afraid this is a simple matter of common sense. True but does that mean that I come in, give you food and take your family with (as pay in lieu)? After all, beggars can't be choosers. What the boyz are doing might not be wise at such a heightened momment but I can't blame them - the world's after them (for what - association with an infamous gang?)

A starving man usually doesn't set conditions for those alleviating his starvation - that is if he is rationale and has his own welfare at heart. You've heard the saying - beggars can't be choosers no? I'm afraid this is a simple matter of common sense. True but does that mean that I come in, give you food and take your family with (as pay in lieu)? After all, beggars can't be choosers. What the boyz are doing might not be wise at such a heightened momment but I can't blame them - the world's after them (for what - association with an infamous gang?)

So who's who again on Facebook? Ive spotted Paragon and Fu-Fu and Curly Sue (i think). Who are the rest?

Waryaadha, stop the hijacking of this thread. This is a serious matter. If you got a Big Forehead, then you getting sent back - bottom line!

Originally posted by ElPunto: ^Leave the food at the front door eh? Isn't that how 500,000 people starved to death in 1991-1992? The idea that a starving man can dictate terms for those feeding him is ludicrous. And to dress that up as a question of sovereignty is even worse. How so? If there are conditions to be met and they are not willing to respect those conditions. It is simple - adhere to the rules and you are welcome. There was no mention of me saying "leave the food at the door". El Punto (can't remember your previous names) and Xin need to get their facts right and move emotion out of the way. As to Layzie G, taas cuuqdaad bee qaabta.

Originally posted by ElPunto: ^Leave the food at the front door eh? Isn't that how 500,000 people starved to death in 1991-1992? The idea that a starving man can dictate terms for those feeding him is ludicrous. And to dress that up as a question of sovereignty is even worse. How so? If there are conditions to be met and they are not willing to respect those conditions. It is simple - adhere to the rules and you are welcome. There was no mention of me saying "leave the food at the door". El Punto (can't remember your previous names) and Xin need to get their facts right and move emotion out of the way. As to Layzie G, taas cuuqdaad bee qaabta.