Hey doesn't your response belong in the "Broke Man" thread. Over there >>>>>

Always looking at things at a different angle - cajeeb! For a man, the question would be: - Can he procreate - ability to produce kids?

He is saying people who end up with one wife or husband could end up envying or being jealousy of other healthy couples by the extention of the reason that they are "stuck" with a sick person instead of a health spouse. Exactly! I thought that Lost in Translation was a movie that came out in 2004. How come it is still running in 2010? .... Polygamy is a solution that curbs many social issues. It is not a "sexcapade" as advertised by Skynews and Foxnews. It curbs envy and jealousy. It allows for individuals who might not be able to get married (e.g. the sick, nonbarren women etc.) to enjoy the fruits and companionship of marriage.

Originally posted by *Ibtisam: [QB] The hadith normally used: Book 008, Number 3425: 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared. In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful, Let us first look at the translation of the Hadith mentioned in the Sahih of Imam Muslim and elsewhere: Sayyida A?isha (Allah be pleased with her) reports that Sahla bint Suhayl came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: ?O Messenger of Allah! I see on the face of Abu Hudhayfa (signs of dislike) on the entering of Salim, who is an ally, (into our house). The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: ?Suckle him.? She said: ?How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) smiled and said: ?I already know that he is a young man.? (Sahih Muslim, no: 1453) Another version of this Hadith is as follows: Sayyida A?isha (may Allah be pleased with her) reports that Salim, the freed-slave of Abu Hudhayfa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i.e. the daughter of Suhayl and wife of Abu Hudhayfa) came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) and said: ?Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he has began to understand what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, think that Abu Hudhayfa feels uncomfortable with this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to her: ?Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear.? She returned and said: ?I have suckled him and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhayfa has disappeared.? (Sahih Muslim) Before coming to any sort of conclusion, we need to first understand the background and context of this incident. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states in his commentary of Sahih Muslim: ?Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Ma?qal?Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Qur?an ?Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers?.? (Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be one?s own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: ?Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear? hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)?? (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print) The above clearly illustrates that Salim was adopted by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife Sahla. He had lived with them and was raised and brought up by them since childhood. However, Islam does not recognize legal adoption and an adopted child is not considered a real child, hence after reaching puberty, the rules of Hijab are applicable. It became very difficult for Salim to live with his adoptive mother due to this rule, thus the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) advised Sahla to make Salim drink her breast-milk, whereby the rules of Hijab would be lifted. It is narrated in the Tabaqat of Ibn Sa?d and elsewhere that Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it. He did not directly drink from the breast of Sahla, as it is not permitted to expose one?s nakedness (awra) in front of a non-Mahram adult, let alone have him suckled. Thus, the objection raised by some non-Muslims that this was an immoral act has no significance, for Sahla did not directly suckle Salim, as he had reached puberty. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani (Allah have mercy on him) has also mentioned this in his al-Isaba fi tamiz al-Sahaba. (See: Tabaqat Ibn Sa?d, 8/271 & al-Isaba, 4/337) This leaves us with the question whether is it allowed for an adult to drink breast-milk, and what implications would that hold? It is a well-known and recognised fact amongst the majority of the Muslim jurists (fuqaha) that suckling is not permitted after two (or 2 and a half) years, neither does it affect the rules of Hijab and marriage. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) quite clearly mentioned this in one Hadith where he said: ??suckling is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period.? (Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 2504 & Sahih Muslim, no. 1455) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said: ?Suckling (radha?a) does not prohibit (i.e. marriage) except which penetrates the intestines (m: meaning which serves as a nourishment for the child) from the breasts, and it is prior to weaning.? (Recorded by Imam al-Tirmidhi in his Sunan, no. 1152) Due to the above narrations, all four Sunni schools of Islamic law are in agreement that suckling and breastfeeding will only be considered (i.e. in effecting the rules of marriage and Hijab) if it takes place in the period designated for it, and it is of no significance after that period. Thus, scholars mention that the permission given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Sahla to give her milk to Salim was a special dispensation and an isolated case, and it cannot be generalized. Imam Abu al-Abbas al-Qurtubi (Allah have mercy on him) states that all of the Prophet?s wives with the exception of A?isha (Allah be pleased with them all) considered this to be a special dispensation, and this is the view taken by the majority of early (salaf) and late (khalaf) scholars. They considered the Hadith to be specific with Salim and Sahla, and are of the opinion that it is not permitted for an adult to drink breast-milk. If an adult did drink breast-milk, it will be of no consequence with regards to marriage and the rules of Hijab. (See: al-Mufhim, 4/186-187 & I?la al-Sunan, 11/119) Moreover, Umm Salama, the wife of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to say: ?All the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to A?isha (Allah be pleased with her): ?By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage and we do not subscribe to this view.? (Sahih Muslim, no: 1454) Thus, in conclusion, it is not permitted for an adult to intentionally drink breast-milk; neither will it have any bearing on the rules of Hijab and marriage. The companion Salim (Allah be pleased with him) was given a special dispensation by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) to drink the milk of Sahla, the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, due to the special circumstances of their case. However, Salim did not directly drink the milk from the breast of Sahla, rather, she would pour the milk in a utensil and he would drink from it. And Allah knows best Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari Darul Iftaa, Leicester, UK

This is definitely inspirational and we need to focus more on the inspiration, MashaAllah.

So now that uruguay 1 mexico 0 and South Africa 2 France 1 What does that translate to for South Africa and their chances of place 2nd in their pool? Urugay is 1st place Mexico in 2nd place South Africa looks to be out, if we go by goal differential. They let in 5 goals over all as opposed to the 2 goals that mexico let in so far in the tournament. Now its for Nigeria to carry the odds: If Nigeria gets 3 - 0 against South Korea, and Greece gets whopped by Argentia, then they advance - right?

health and wealth and the guarantee of bearing children to odega wareersan. Indeed, it is a physiological and physcological attraction. There have been many studies albeit conducted in coffe shops, that have show this to be true.

In terms of stats, its gotta be Magicccccc How do you avg. 30+ points and 13 assists in the NBA Finals - 3 times (at least). Thats Amazingggg. Kobe is still young and if he is obsessed, he can go for 4 championships in a row (aint been done in a long while, if ever)

Afriiiiqqqqqaaaaaaa Zulu nation is giving us hope.....

Uruguay 1 Mexicao 0 They can't score more than that for South Africa to advance - right?

So what are South Africa's chances today? They are up 2 - 0 against France. They need 3 goals and a win to tie for 2nd place, if mexico and uruguay tie at 0-0 a piece? Actually, they need uruguay to lose 1-0 to have a chance - right? What are there odds? Damnns African - they giving us hope - whyyyyy

Saxib, wake up! The glass is definitely half empty for the african teams

Say a person can't have children and they don't tell that to their potentional spouse or they have Type A diabetes and require daily dialysis but they don't inform their potentional spouse - would that be acceptable to any one of you? Such things should be disclosed but indirectly through families. In informal talk and you see what are people's views on that individual's particular disability. If they don't agree, khalas, move on. The optionn of being a second spouse is a realist option that curtails these problems because it eliminated envy and jealousy. i.e. I was stuck with a sick person when I could have had a health spouse.

Hey what is wrong with the ever confused JB? How come it is acceptable for him to start trashy threads like that in the women's section. Saxib,niiyada xaanaga dhiilin. We have enough to compete with and now we have to compete with the damnnn porteguese team. :mad: I think that your thread in the women's section should be deleted ASAPPPPP.

“Marrying an Afghan man was the cherry on the cake for my parents. They think I’m completely crazy now You send them the message Yvonne! Hey her choices were limited - an afghani, a paki or a somali? an at least he ain't broken. The Taliban do work have money. On a serious note, MashaAllah, these sisters are great spokeswomen for islam in the U.K.

Did the African teams buy all the yellow cards in the worldcup? Ghana is screwed, cameroon is cooked, south africa is a joke, algeria and ivory coast - no comment At least one of these teams need to advance to the 2nd round?

He's a baaaaad azzzzz. Pure entertainment but he not only has a talented team but he so far has coached them very well.

Ivory Coast is toast. Do the losers still get Hotel stay or get sent packing home. North Korea was embarassed - Don't evaaaa come back here. Did you guys see the North Korean coach throw in the towel? Do they have a tap-out/mercy rule?

Knaan said 'South Africa, this is our moment' Man, that was a great performance except for that loser Will I Am. It was definitely full of emotion. wo ho ho wo ho (how does the chant go).... Sometimes, its good to ignore reality for a min.>>>oh wait, there she calls again.

Yeah the moral is - don't be such a stubborn person. Treat and talk to them like you would to kids!

whether he sings Guulwadow siyaad or soomaaliland. A politician is a politician whether in office, in the streets or on a toilet seat.

That’s when I started to say “can you sit back and put your seat belt on please”.” and what an unforgettable ride it was! This is pure racism at its best. He is just an escape goat and his name is being dragged through the mud. How do you do a DNA swap on the neck? Something ain't right, it ain't his saliva marks on her neck its something else

bustin' your balls due to PMs? Just don't take it personal saxib, its a universal thing.

Originally posted by Che -Guevara: I'm tolerant person but I hate overachievers. :mad: Go get that coffee for the team saxib and jump at every opportunity. Ofcourse you have to have that desire without which you can't become an overachiever. Overachievers thrive on accomplishments and being recognized for them. Don't hate saxib, participate!

SubhanAllah, the intuition of that man to go to that spot. That child is very lucky, his life could have been dramatically altered in an instant.