tip for the sisters looking for big weddings why bother with a big wedding? the reason most somali's do big weddings is to show off, no matter how much effort u put in, no matter how extravagant your day is,somali ppl will always complain and critizes. *the bride is ugly/dress dont suite her, wrong make-up *the groom is old/bald/fat/cant dance/who does he think he is? *the music is loud/horrible/where is the music? *the people are too many/rude/not enough *the food is too little/badly cooked/what food? the hosts rude! venue too small/cheap/could have been better decorated/i dont like the colour of the floor! and even if u counter-act all the above -and spent your whole allowance and that of your friends to please these people , make your wedding the best-- they say-- bisinka, khasaaro, waa waali! why u wasting money? dont u fear Allah? u can never satisfy these people! my wedding it will be done in secret with just a few friends and family, and then i will disappear on my honey-moon the money that i would have wasted on the venue/food/entertainment and a load of ungrateful people- i would send to my families in somalia, for them to have a feast (i know they will appreciate it)

(2year later) Yaa Allah give my good brother Socarates good health. and Amiiin to my du'aa and the once y'all made!

lool butuulo.....thanx for the tips sis but i had a bad experiance once..i was 12(in year 8 secondary school-remember im a Brit) it was one early morining, i was on my way to school, i got on the bus as usual, got off at my stop and started walking to school. well i had to go down a quite street and 2 ally-ways to get to school (there are other ways but i found this easier and faster). as i was walking down the quite street i heard footsteps behind me, i didnt think much of it, i entered the 1st ally, the footsteps where getting closer, i started walking faster. now the 2 ally-ways cross eachother, every one is walking on the other ally and i can see them. my follower catches up with me, someone on the other ally calls for me, i stop as the guy (following me) walks past me, he stops in front of me inches away, then he says "nice tits nice ass an all" (i will never 4get those words) u wanna know what i did? i froze - i could not move. i kept silent till i got to school, soon as i saw my tutor , i burst into tears (i cry alot). Alhamdulillah i was not hurt. and since that day till i finished secondary school, i always had a guy walk me to school and walk me home (class mates took it in turns) lol my advice to sisters * dont take shortcuts, take the long bussy roads. *and if u know some one going the same place that lives near u, meet up and go 2gether *be allert of what is happening around u * and try not to freeze (u will kick ur self 4ever) ----------------------------------------- learn from ur past,,,and now mine!

yeah...it sure was beautiful....thanx sis

qax qax loooooooooooooooooooool listen...i dont know what planet u are from. did any one of us guys say that we was dating? did we say we went movies, or hugged/kissed? i dont recall! and for ur daft record...me and this guy planned to get married. i mean, well now if i talk from the guys point of view, guys thing this way, if the girl is going out with u, dating u, she definately not a marriage material, we say she got brainwashed in western countries, and all the movies, u know the romantic stuff. and at the end when the guy had his fun with u, spent lots of time with u, and u were not even married to the guy. then he would say yo she is too easy, another man could get her how exactly i got her. so then he looks for another alternatives, that could be going to somalia and finding a girl, clean one, who doesn't know about dates. at the end any man wants to marry a nice woman, pure one, then he could trust her with his kids. if u think that girls in the west are easy, and not pure and cant handle kids , well,,,,,good luck with the ones back home....i aint gonna put them down-coss every nation and country has good people and bad people. and all u have succeeded in doing is showing us that most guys are small-minded, untrustworthy idiots. if some of us are slightly too trusting and beleive the bull u guys read, well, i for one learnt my lesson.----never trust a guy first-lady sis....i heard it from someone else initially, but he came back to the UK, and rang me. and after interegation he admitted he got married. walaahi he made me laugh.

lol, u guys are good, imma start drpooing these new maah maah on ma family, they gonna have a heart attack thinking our fiish girl learnt somali (they probably end up thinking it male influence) parents always assume the worst. i rememeber hearing these two ....alot "naafti jogsan waydaa mar uun bay ceeb lakulantaa" "been tu luug keli-ah ay kuscotaa, marka laqabtonaa way dacdhaa" ooh and "dacawadii talaaba dee di na katag tay tii neebignaa gadiwayday"

rudy....lol ujoka me and this guy was related, so there was no dembi, he seemed perfect, and he was meant to marry me, but lying git married some 1 else walaahi, i during my insane obssesive stage when i could not work things out str8 in my head, (one day i hated his guts, the next i loved him and couldnt live without him, and the next i was looking for an alternative) iy was a viscious circle that i could not get out of, i thought hang on, i aint lost nothing, i didnt sleep with this guy, i mean, some girls loose their virginity to assholes and they get their hearts broken, some girls get pregnant and the guy leaves, girl friends , unless u one of them girls.....we aint lost nothing we just had a lucky escape from making a big mistake.

Acudu billah.....and may Allah protect us from them.....amiin

girls, girls girls, what did i tell y'all, men are assholes, and we for some reason beyond me fall for them. firstlady,,,,,i shared ur pain, and still am! but i aint got no choice but to let go. i fell madly-deeply head-over-heels for this guy. i dont know why i fell for him. he was cute in a unique way, many people find him handsome, and he was big-headed saying he could get any women he wants and how women are harrassing him saying they want him. this guy actually told me he loved me, i was the one, and that he was gonna marry me, after he comes back from somalia. somalia? i had a difficulty with him leaving, but he reasured me that he would ring me every day. he went away for 9 months never called ones. he came back to where i am, and he phones me out of the blue. i thought i was dreaming, that it wasnt him, and i didnt know how to deal with talking to him. i had waited 9months for this brother, i tried getting over him, but failed, i was thinking about him every minute of every day. (i sometimes even cried coss i felt helpless-against loving him) well, he got married in somalia, end of story. --i deleted all his details, and i dont contact him, (he's been back for 2 weeks-he rang me twice.) i dont wanna hear his voice or listen to his excuses. i wished him best luck and im tryna move on. walaal, the reason im telling u this story, is because if those that promise commitment aint commiting, where is the hope for those that tell u str8 up that they gonna play u? take your time getting over him, if you rush and try rebound, you will hurt yourself and the other person- it aint fair! i guess we will never 4get these guys, but they aint what is best for us or what Allah intended for us, pray Istikhara to Allah and InshaAllah we will find someone better, (thats what i tell myself- there has to be some 1 out there better than him) women fall in love with their hearts,with one man, men fall in love with the dicks,with many women.

lol..... i remember that song: "what a girl wants, what a girl needs, whatever makes me happy sets u free" good advice sister,,,

lol.....ok.... nuuur asked other than Allah (deen) and your family , what cant you live without? the one thing i cant live without, and would go mentally depressive, suicidal and homocidal if i didnt have: (drum roll) , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ALWAYS ALTRA (WITH WINGS)

i love so many , that i've known for such little time. and each has got their own unique qualities,,,,so i guess imma bend the rules here it goes---- ISLAAM: nuur (new brother) JOKES: CLOWN POETRY: P.M.E (deadly-vision) GENERAL: O_Motti POLITICS: O_G girl/Asraa KIDS: muslim sister

1-bear (sky) 3-humans (sky) 1-bird (sky) 1-horse (top left) 1-fox (top right) 1-camel (light coloured rock) 1-horses head (under camel) 1-monkey/person (left-water) 1-eagle (center-water) 1-dear/gazell (bottom-left) total = 12 (i might have imagined the horses head,,,and missed out many,,,but correct me!)

MashaAllah the answer i was waiting for ,,, silent mashallah thanks for this nice piece WHY? coz jugdement day is near and religion is fading away. XAYAAT,,,,,well done sister MashaAllah u guys!!,,, we should try and our best to hold tight to the rope of Allah

akhaas, ppl have weird fettish!!!

do u what the word adoon means? yes...it means slave!!! do u think that he use to call bilal caabiid when he gets pissed at him? no walaalo! so if u consider yourself a true believer why would u use this horrible word to discriminate your brothas/sistas. i would never call a muslim cabiid/adoon, but a kuffar was dissing me and my nation, and i defended myself! another thing, this idea "every1 wants to b somalian" is totally WACK!! what r u basing this theory under!! the explanation i used earlier (in the first post)! lol we africans 1st, muslim 2nd etc., so if u call another afri a adoon, then what does that make u!! wrong order love,,,,, we muslim 1st, then africans! do u know what our honourable prophet said about it? yes.... but i will tell u what Allah (swt) said "Oh you who believe! Let not a group scoff at another group, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor let (some) women scoff at other women, it may be that the latter are better than the former. Nor defame one another, nor insult one another by nicknames. How bad is it to insult ones own brother after having faith (i.e. to call your muslim brother (a faithful believer) "O sinner", or "O wicked"). And whosoever does not repent, then such are indeed *Zalimun* (wrongdoers) ,,,,,,,,,,,NOBEL QURAN . surah-49. iyaat-11 im sorry if i upset anyone. i ask for u guys to 4give me ,,,,and i pray that Allah 4gives me. i really wasnt being racist, but trying to let u guys know why some ppl use that term, and i used an example from my experience when i used it myself.

kids are a wonder , a blessing , and i would be happy with however many Allah grants me and what ever proportion of males and females that i recieve. i would love to have twins or tripplets. as Jamaal said , it is about quality not quantity. however when i settle down to mate with my man, however many kids we make, Allah has already planned their provisions while they are on this earth----so no way am i going to look into family planning and birth control!

^^^^^^^^^same here^^^^^^^^^^^^^ realising that u given your heart to this person, and they just playing u!

u know what, MashaAllah, i know a a few somali ladies that have married white guys and their children are indeed beautiful, MashaAllah, their eye/hair colours differ, but once, i spoke to this lil, mixed-raced (somali-white) kid in english, and her replied in somali, and that was really sweet,,,,,i could not do nothing but say MashaAllah,,,,,i was proud of him and his parents. it is not about the colour of your kid, or the man that you marry,,,but it is all about the Aqiidah, and Adaab of that child.

clown.,,,,waa iis qarxisaay! conspiracy-- i like ur translations better. O_G ,,LOL, im here what u gonna do? ok,,, let me tell u what i mean when i start those statements,,,and im being 100%% honest 1. She says... I love you But.......... analysis--yep,,,im definatly gonna dump u! 2. She says.... I hate u when you are like this... analysis--i wish that u could cheer up, life aint soo bad. and i love u(with no buts) so dont jump the gun , give her a chance to finish! 3. She says .... Dont you think she is pretty, pointing to another lady analysis--im giving a sister credit for what Allah has blessed her with, (just say MashaAllah) 4. She says.... lets have some space, we cant be together always, i need a room to think about lots of stuff.. analysis--hell yeah, imma dump you! 5. She says.... hey meet my friend, he is new in town, i will have to show him around so our date this weekend is canceled is that ok babe? analysis--(lol) i would never introduce my potential future patners 2each-other,,,dont worry about what u know, be very afraid of what you dont know! (well, hope that clarifies any doubts u had about O_G's analysis)

ATHENA & NUUR, stop the shukaansi and get back to the topic! religious aight, ok, we all know that divorce is frowned upon and that it is a last resort. it is the one halaal thing that Allah hates. traditional i sometimes think that a lot of older somali's take it out of context ......i mean sometimes the marriage is failing, the whole family is suffering, but for some reason, the couple stay 2gether thinking that no matter how much they argue,fight, and abuse eachother, anything is better than divorce. my Aunt and her husband used to fight when i was kid. me and her kids used to feel really helpless, coss they used to beat eachother and we couldnt do nothing! we used to sit at the bottom of the stairs crying. well, my aunt will take us away from the house for a few days, then we would return, and things are back to normal, till the next time they fight. (we later discovered that the rest of the family used to negotiate and get them back 4gether) i really dont think that type of setting is right for any child, and i think that sometimes divorce is the best option--remember it isnt haraam! pyschological damage not divorcing: speaking from my experience- staying in a marriage that was better ended- i learnt real early that im a helpless human, that there are alot of things that i have no control over, and that crying is good.(let it all out) divorce: i think that boys suffer more than girls, because they need that male role model and a mother cannot do that (usually when somali's get divorced, mother gets full custody) a lot of boys basically turn out to be juvenile delinquents because they really dont take dicipline from a women. i would say that no atter what option the parents choose, they know their situation better than anyone else, and hey know what is best for them and thei kids. somali parents should involve their kids in making major dicisions, since like the brother nuur said, the kids are the ones that suffer---divorce should be a family dicision and the kids should be consulted rather than left out. i think that them being involved will limit any resentment or psychological damage-regardless of wether the parents stay a couple or depart. (if u can make sence of what im tryna say- hope it helps)

Hafsaa, MashaAllah sis, that was beautifully collected and collaborated. May Allah reward you, and grant us all and our parents paradise-----Amiin!

Wa iyaakum, BATUULO-- thanx for the canoo, its much apreciated! ANTI-BIDAAR_OUV--- ill try my best to keep the vibe, however, back-up is urgently needed!

Why is it so hard to tell the truth but yet so easy to tell a lie? ............... *Why are we so sleepy in mosque but right when the prayer is over, we suddenly wake up? *Why is it so hard to talk about Allah but yet so easy to talk about nasty stuff? *Why is it so boring to look at an Islamic Article but yet so easy to look at a nasty one? *Why is it so easy to delete a Godly e-mail but yet we forward all of the nasty ones? *Why are the mosque's getting smaller, but yet the dance clubs are getting larger?

* Camels will no longer be used as a means of transport; * People will ride on saddles that aren't saddles (cars?) * The distance on earth will become short; * Horses will not be used in wars; * Muslims will defeat the Byzantines which will end with the conquest of Constantinople(Istanbul) * The Jews will gather again to live in Bilad Canaan; * Very tall buildings will be built; * The disappearance of knowledge and the appearance of ignorance, with much killing; * Adultery will become widespread, and the drinking of wine will become common; * The number of men will decrease and the number of women will increase until there are 50 women to be looked after by one man. * Islam will become worn out like clothes are, until no one will know what fasting, prayer, charity and rituals are; * Allah will send a disease to fornicators that will have no cure (Aids?); * People will begin to believe in the stars and reject AL QADAR (THE DIVINE DECREE OF DESTINY); * Men will pass by people's graves and say: "Would that I were in his place"; (large amount of sucidal deaths?) * The Euphrates will uncover a mountain of gold for which people will fight over (the river of Alfurat that lies near Syria); * Two large groups of people will fight one another, and there will be many casualties; they will both be following the same religion (World War II?); * Approximately 30 DAJJALS will appear, each one claiming to be the messenger of ALLAH; * Earthquakes will increase; * Time will pass quickly; * Afflictions will appear; * Killing will increase; * Wealth will increase; * Women will be wearing clothes but not wearing clothes * THE PROPHET (saw) SAID: "IF MY UMMAH BEARS 15! TRAITS(QUALITIES), TRIBULATION WILL FOLLOW IT." (DAY OF JUDGEMENT) SOMEONE ASKED,"WHAT ARE THEY O MESSENGER OF ALLAH?" HE (saw) SAID: * When any gain is shared out only among the rich, with no benefit to the poor; * When a trust becomes a means of making profit; * When paying ZAKKAT becomes a burden; * When voices are raised in the mosque; * When the leader of a people is the worst of them; *When people treat a man with respect because what he may do; * When much wine is drunk; red wind or the earth swallow them, or to be transformed into animals." * 'IMRAN IBN HUSAYN SAID: "THE PROPHET (AS) SAID, 'SOME PEOPLE OF THIS UMMAH WILL BE SWALLOWED BY THE EARTH, TRANSFORMED INTO ANIMALS, AND SOME WILL BE BOMBARDED WITH STONES'. ONE OF THE MUSLIMS ASKED, WHEN WILL THAT BE O MESSENGER Of ALLAH?' HE SAID, 'WHEN SINGERS AND MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WILL BECOME POPULAR, AND MUCH WINE IS DRUNK.'" *THE GREATER SIGNS OF THE HOUR *The Quran will disappear in one night, even from the people's hearts, and no Ayyah will be left on earth. (Some groups of old people will be left who will say: "We heard of fathers' saying "LAILLAHA ILLA ALLAH" so we repeat it) * The appearance of the MAHDI; * The appearance of the DAJJAL (Anti Christ); * The appearance of Ya'juj and Ma'juj (biblical Gog and Magog); * Isa (Jesus) will come during the time of Dajjal; * The rising of the sun from the west; * The destruction of the Ka'ba and the recovery of its treasures; * The smoke.