We Somalis are brothers. We have a shared destiny. Walahi I only hate people who lie about history and knocking out tribal chauvinist. If I see a Somali develop I am happy. It's good. A strong Somalia is a wonderful thing. But we need to go forward as a people. Tribalism in the political structure and more tribal division is not formula for success. We need to be honost with each other. Although we are Somalis and have the same faith. Some of us glorify murderers in the name of tribe. Some of us glorify curropt regimes who have been proven to be curropt in the name of tribalism. When something is wrong it's wrong. This Somalian government in mugdisho is tribalist garbage. Has not achieved anything. Every year that goes by things get worse. Something is fundamentally wrong. The system is wrong. We need an objective. We need to work together until we can move beyond our suspicions of one another.

Somaliland has created a multi tribal society. It is developing from East to west. It's people are not interested in tribalism. Only security and development. The proof is before your very eyes from inception to this very day in the videos I posted. Your idol yaay. Never asked hag to join him in puntland. If you think that your more st%pid then I thought. The man was the number one tribalist in Somali history. He was responsible for death of thousands and bringing the Somali People's enemy to mugdisho. GOD made us the protectors of our children and women so... Make Somalia and Islamic State unified from Bosoaso to Kenya border. Free from Ethiopia and Africans. Then we may reconsider. The truth is you know without Somaliland these tribalist and African boot lickers can't achieve anything on their own. But that's your own fault. Communist, colonialism and cronyism has played a heavy toll on the society down south. The solution is there for all to see. But you fake nationalists don't really care. You will do what's good for you. We won't jeopardise our children for fake nationalists, tribalist and boot lickers.

Doctor Kennedy. I don't have to explain anything to a man who hails yaay as a reformer and peacnik hahaha.... Acudubilah. Like I said to you a million times. Somaliland gave birth to this unity your talking about. It lost the most and gained nothing. The honost answer is visible to all who have 1 brain cell. Somalis are not ready for unity. We tried it and it failed. If Somaliland loved British borders it wouldn't have United without condition with Somalia for the dream of greater Somalia it created. GOD permits the eating of pork if it means saving your life from death. Only death and tribalism in somalia. The very poison that destroyed us all. Therefore the preservation of life is the most important. Puntland is a tribalist entity. It has tribal borders and a tribal objective. It doesn't hide it. Abdullahi Yusuf was not a peacenik reformer like your trying to argue. Syria and Iraq both have sunnis who have the same objective the same goal. We Somalis don't. That's the truth. Somalia has a tribalist system of governance based on 4.5. We have a system of local, regional and national representatives based on location. We are world's apart. If you don't understand this then not much I can do for you really. Do this. Find mentally traumatised Somali guy in a insane asylum pumped with tribal ambitions of the opposite tribe to you in that same room through in an African rapist then take your child who is a girl and place her in that room. Would you do it. No. Would God permit it aluhu Aclam. GOD made you the protector of your children from danger.

Regional institution building with Mudug in accordance with the peace agreement which was the division of Mudug and Galkacyo into a divided city and to work on peace I. E. Camel rustlers. Nothing about unity like I said. The man you are hailing as an opponent of tribalism and a soldier of unification of hag and d block was the very one who destroyed Somalia in the beginning and marched with Ethiopian and planted an Ethiopian flag. In all that time up to this very day Galkacyo is a divided city.

They divided mudug into the current separate status. Three for puntland the rest for galmudug and minor collaboration is not unity. You need to stop misleading people and be honost. It's not rocket science. Abdullahi Yusuf was a tribalist. Not a nationalist. He never agreed to unite or even proposed to unite Galkacyo. He established puntland as a tribalist state. With tribalist so called borders. I know that everyone knows that. You need to stop lieing. This is another reason why fake nationalists like doctor Kennedy don't get far. You live a existence based on a lie. That doesn't match the reality on the ground.

^^^^ Someones telling porkies: The only section that refers to Galkacyo is page 14 and 15 and in that it states. In early part the usc took Galkacyo while Abdullah Yusuf was in jail in Ethiopia. He came back took the chairmanship of the ssdf and a smaller d block group and took back Galkacyo. The second part is on page 18 the mudug peace agreement that states: Division of mudug and to work on peace. But again no integration of political entities into a single force. Minor collaboration regarding Camel rustlers etc. If you don't believe me read it for yourself. What part of your "evidence" says Abdullahi Yusuf wanted to remove the tribalism and form a united political entity free from tribalism????

Acudubilah. Did you just say Abdullah Yusuf invited galmudug into puntland. Are you trying rewrite history. Puntland was set up in 1998. For the sole purpose that Somalia is no longer a state and that the d block will manage their own affairs and control their own land. That's why the borders they have or aspire to have are entirely tribalist. Doctor Kennedy you just exposed yourself. Claiming that the man Abdullah Yusuf that man who was the first to raise an Ethiopian flag on Somali soil and the man who marched into mugdisho on the back of an Ethiopian tank leading to the overthrowing of the Islamic courts union and the war that killed thousands. Somehow was an idealist and wanted to establish a non tribalist state. Everyone who read that probably laughed aloud. Can you please provide your sources (including link) and post them onto the thread for us all to see the validity of your argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wXLmC6SNeg

^^^ Did you not understand what I just wrote or are you intentionally refusing to accept that what I wrote is the truth. Puntland is as it states by its own admission not mine it's it's own constitution a tribal fiefdom with tribal objectives. It subscribes to tribal borders and tribal goals. Not national, not religious. Tribal. Tribalism is the sole reason why the Somalis are were they are today. You ask why Somaliland doesn't unite with a territory that has tribal objectives. Even though like I told you that tribalism is the cancer I. E. The root cause of all this choas. Instead of being a genuine nationalist and calling for the union of two similar territories that are at the same stage and share a city I. E. Galmudug and Galcayco. like the fake nationalist you are doctor Kennedy you had an ulterior motive with your question and it exploded in your face. you don't want to admit the reality that puntland and galmudug share a city I. E. Galcayco. You don't want to admit that it's divided along clan lines and instead of asking for its union to further end this tribalist cancer you come here with ulterior motives. Let me say it again. I don't think you read carefully the first time. The unity of the Somali people is not close. You don't have to be a genius to see that. I would love unity a genuine union Based not on Somalism but Muslim objectives. You on the other hand don't know what you want. You support a failed government. That is on life support by the AU paid for by the West in its war against Muslim law. If you disagree then tell me if the Islamic courts union were terrorists. (of course not). You have not declared or got to the root of the problem. You have not provided any genuine solution to the problem. You part take in the fake nationalist tit for tat and entertain them. Come on. The middle east is different. These people the sunnis of Iraq and syria are both fighting for their existence. They have never been United. As we have. They have a common enemy and common objective. We have an enemy and an objective but Somalia has no enemy or objective according to the government the AU mercaneries raping women are our brothers. These fake nationalist SCUM have no honour or dignity left. I will tell you now. And remember these words. The choice to solution of the Somali people is this more choas and death with the fake nationalists or Islamic law and reform to our cultural and traditional roots. That's it. Death or life. It's for the people to choose. We choose life I. E. Islam and our culture in 1991. We chose to move away from tribalism and today alxamdulilah. GOD has given us peace, justice and development regardless of what the naysayers say.

^^^ Well today is the first I have ever heard you say you want these garbage mercenaries out of Somali territory. Which is a good start. On many occasions I have said that the integration of Somali territories is not close and won't happen anytime soon. Not that I don't want it to happen but I know and I have said to you that the communist regime of afwyne barre implanted alot of mistrust amongst the people. Puntland was not part of the original five territories. The five territories are important because it give it a regional struggle not a tribal one. Somaliland objective was as is stated in the video above the desire to take all the people of the North and bring into a single order and create development, peace and sharia. Puntland objective as written in its constitution is a tribal fiefdom. It's objectives are tribal, it's politics in Mugdisho is tribal. Even it's border desires are tribal. I don't see the point of uniting with a territory whose core foundation is the sole reason why Somalia was destroyed in the first place. It's like asking a healthy person to inject deadly poison. Somaliland has in effect created a multi clan society. Dont believe me go to Somaliland. Puntland should first drop all tribal ambitions and unite with galmudug to remove the tribalist cancer once and for all. Implement sharia and good relations and start cultural and social exchanges hopefully leading to something positive in the future when the mistrust is removed. Then the people of Somaliland would look at it differently.

Doctor Kennedy. I never claimed to be a nationalist. I'm not a nationalist. I'm a Muslim who is a realist. I have never mocked the people of Somalia. Benta iska daa. I am the only one on this entire forum who critised and continue to do so today the presence of mercenaries on Somali soil. You doctor Kennedy have not once critised the presence of AU forces in somalia you actually support it. Hence why your a fake nationalist. Malister is the one that supports the rape of Somali women. Hence why he is another fake nationalist. What kind of Man would justify the rape of a Somali women??? I advocate and have always advocated for Somalis to stand up for themselves and kick out these mercaneries. Puntland is and was never part of the 5 Somali territories. And if you read through this thread alone. I actively argue for all Somali's to support each others development and political stability and to use traditional and cultural sources of governance and learn from one another. If you need to learn how to read I'm sure your local school can help you. In regards to the Las canod folk. I critised those among them who lie and say they never took part in the 1991 conference. Those who say I want to join a state that is unable to defend it's own women. Those who say they fight for unity when it was their fault Somali unity no longer exists. Those who falsify history to shape their own tribal ambitions. I merely tell you to defend yourself. To think rationally for the betterment of Somalis everywhere. You on the other hand. No one knows what you stand for other then AU mercaneries and entertaining these scumbags who sold the Somali people for money. Or destroyed them in the past and kept them in choas for the last 23 years.

The day founders and fathers of Somali unity through in the towel and destroyed it because of the fake nationalists. The day the clans of Somaliland came to a mutual consensus. In 40 years of union we have found only 3 things which were of benefit to the Northern regions and even getting those we had to struggle for. The communists have changed our people's concept of islam. Our people don't know the difference between halal and haram. We have agreed to implement sharia. Listen to this.

Promoting brotherhood and peace over tribalism.

Education and development: Borama: Burco: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqHVIhVdRkg Las canod: It's same across the board with small towns, medium sized towns and big cities across the entire area. Road construction has started:

We have to start from the basics again. Women and children.

Islam came to us before it went to syria or Iraq or anywhere. Islam is who we are. Yet we ignore this element. The one element that brought peace to our forefathers and inspired them to fight Ethiopian expansion on to our sacred soil. Islam brought us honour. While communism and these fake nationalists brought us only death.

Our weakness as Somalis comes from our lack of understanding and lack of a political system and objective. The only objective of the fake nationalist is tribal hegemony. Looting the wealth of the poor and taking as much land in the name of the war on terrorism by the AU as they can. They have no solution to the social, economical and political choas in somalia. They have no solutions for the millions of mothers and children hungry and unsafe every day. They have no solution to the even maintaining peace, law and order without the AU. These fake nationalists walahi have made the Somali people a joke. The only time the Somali people in somalia stood up to them was the popular people's uprising in mugdisho which brought the Islamic courts union to power. The people want Islam. That's a fact. I have no doubt in my mind the people of Somalia want Islam and only Islam and sharia. Hence why you have millions being spent on AU mercenaries who rape women and children paid for by the United States and Europe. Fake nationalists are the SCUM of the Somali people.

The reality is all development infrastructure or otherwise in all Somali territories must be encouraged. What we are talking about is the survival of the Somali people. The question the fake nationalists have to ask themselves is. What have they actually done to preserve the life and dignity of their own people. Nothing. Is the honost answer. The communist afwyne barre and his tribal ambitions inflicted to much mistrust and hate. The government's before that were just as tribal and currupt just not as overt. So in reality large sections of the Somali people have lost hope in a unified Somali state. Most of us know that's not going to happen anytime soon. The people of Somaliland choose unity, died and fought and surrendered unconditionally for unity. All they recieved was death and choas. Communism, tribalism and mafiaism. Today they live in peace under a shahada flag. For what for the preservation of their children from these fake nationalist who bring only death. What we can do collectively as Somalis is to learn from one another politically and culturally. To advance our systems of governance and also to weaken the narrative of those who have brought only misery to the Somali people. We should encourage the use of islam in our governance process, business approaches and in dealing with each other socially. We should work towards removing tribalism completely. It's difficult in a tribal society I understand but no steps have been taken towards removing it. It remains part of the political system ethier directly or indirectly. We can only destroy tribalism using Islam. Development and education. The removal of tribalism from the political system. To return what tribalism was meant to be. A way to distinguish between people. Not a tool to try and wipe out people or subdue people. GOD says in the Quran: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted" Who knows better then God no one.

You show me one logical Somali who should not be proud as a Somali about Somaliland and I will show you a tribalist. Somaliland is the pride and heart of the Somali speaking people's. It was the first territory to raise a proud and free Somali flag. It destroyed afwyne barre and his communist marxist scientific socialist in reality tribalist nonsense.

The cancer that has destroyed the Somali people seems to be attributed to the southern primarily between the two groups down south. The first for destroying the nation and inflicting tribalism and communism. Breading hate and mutual distrust. The second for not learning from their mistake and not having the capacity to build order and stability free from Western and regional intervention. Also for destroying what was left of the former state and not building something on its place. Somaliland when you examine it through the lens of non tribalism Has from Las canod to the Djibouti border contrary to a few inbreds who are a by product of incest who mouth of without logic on this forum. Created a fair system for all to live in. Local administrations for all the cities and regions. A strong credible fighting force. An educational platform to educate millions of children and teenagers and many other good things. It has moved beyond tribalism. And solves all internal problems using its own traditional and cultural systems. A success story among Somalis indeed. The last Somali historical state that is standing.

What they tell their cattle (people) (yiddish: goyim) and the truth are polar opposites.

American people get robbed by the federal Reserve. There children are sent abroad to die for zionism. Their education system is the worst in the developed world. Their youth are being destroyed. Their families are being destroyed and they don't realise any of this because they are all being brainwashed. This is the real brainwashed. When good is made to appear evil and evil to appear good. I feel sorry for the Americans people slaves of zionist. Is how the American nation ended up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA5mJpQ9u5E To God We belong and to him is our return. Islamaphobia is endemic on American TV, sitcoms and newspapers and even movies. American are in effect thought to hate Muslims. Is this not propaganda????

To prove your a fake nationalists examine the below: 1. You entertain the various tit for tat pathetic tribalist squabbles these fake nationalists have. 2. If you were a real nationalists you wouldn't refer to any specific group but focus on the collective I. E. Mamulka SNM and build a common national platform to argue why these people should join a state that is dead, we're rape and death and choas has been the name of the game for over 23 years and Marxism and tribalism before that. 3. You argue for the removal of the only last effective element protecting the sunnis of syria and Iraq and today you argue Somaliland should join the suicidal fake nationalists who specialise in death and choas. 4. You look at the situation from the tribalist perspective. Dividing a and b. I'm not saying the tribes are bad I'm saying the most important thing is firstly the preservation of the people as many as possible. Secondly the destruction of the fake nationalist concepts of government and changing the governing structures of what's left using cultural and traditional methods of governance along with sharia and Islamic concepts. You never argue for this meaning your content with fake nationalist and how they operate. Therefore you are a fake nationalist.

^^^ Clearly your a fake nationalist I don't have to label you as one. The fact that you refer to an entire territory as mamulka SNM clearly shows that. In regards to Las canod. Las canod sleeps peaceful at night under a tawheed flag not for tribalism but for brotherhood. The man in Las canod or anywhere in the Somali speaking territories come and do business and thrive. The people you refer to as SNM even though SNM was disbanded in 1991 were the very ones who United the Somali speaking people's and attempted to build a unified state. We didn't ruin that the fake nationalists down south did. It's not that the people of Somaliland don't want unity clearly the gave up everything for unity but the fake nationalists down south are not ready or capable of even mature enough for unity. No point of uniting with a self declared Muslim who actually worships tribe and is prepared to kill you like he did before. So again I say to you. Get your fake nationalist head out of your @ss and learn history. The people of Las canod are not discriminated against. They have actually benefited more in brotherhood with us then the entire history of being part of the socialist Marxist qabilist state of fake nationalists known as Somalia.