U crawl before u walk and walk before u run, right? I say way to go!

^^this is it My boy Brown is now officially in the enlightened crew. For the benefit of his soul, every1 plz stand up and fess up ur real age The dude thinks there are only one age bracket that makes the cut when it comes congregating in SOL forum! Shez, I'm the same old oday sis passing time here to lessen my load at Xamaali world. BTW, if I rubbed u the wrong way, it was all joke from my part.

^this dude is obsessed with age '91 where was I? Hmmm! let me see I was fleeing with family members from Mogadishu to Kismayo and around May I made to Nairobi where I joined the Jokore crowd in search of way out. After what seemed to be eternity in hell I made to San Jose, CA. As to the internet, never got access to it until early '95 (through school terminals). Never chatted or joined the discussion groups. Believe it or not SOL is the first site I spent considerable time unrelated to work or schooling. There u have it MMA. I'm a novice

ICE stands for "In Case of Emergency." If you add an entry in the contacts list in your cellular telephone under ICE, with the name and telephone number of the person that the emergency services should call on your behalf, you can save them a lot of time and have your loved ones contacted quickly. It only takes a few moments of your time to do. Paramedics know what ICE means and they look for it immediately. ICE your cellular telephone NOW! You might not want to stop at just ICE. Go ahead and enter an ICE2, ICE3, and etc., just in case no one is home at ICE. This is an internal email prompted by a sudden untimely loss of senior engineering manager. Apparently this fella was walking to his hotel after returning Corporate conference talking to his wife on the cell and boom his heart fail on him (heart attack)...after a while the cell died. Paramedics arrived and rushed him to the hospital. He couldn't make it. They then scanned through and randomly called a number in last called list which happen to be one of his buddies at work. I thought I would share this with you just in case u didn't know.

My heart goes out to the victims of Katrina -the hurricane- which slammed that part of the states with unprecedented force and energy. Horrible, oval scene...as a parent with toddlers I just can't imagine being in that oval situation...May Allah lessen the hardship they must be goin thru as we speak. Lousiana Mississippi Alabama Florida

Coomay, First, wlc to SOL jungle. Yes Somalia do need help and big hand at that. But I don't see that help coming from the cyber world and the characters that populate its many spots. The site is the working people who don't have neither the time nor the solution nor the capital to sort out the big mess down thete. Don't listen to Shez. Politiking is not her thang. If u ever cross her path plz do admire her cyber look and the fact that she's not raised in Somalia . Flirt here and there hopefully that will make her day . Don't mind the goat swallower! Before he become the snitch he is today this wannabee used to be a pro down there - the very place he's just badmouthed. Now wuu il baxay he just found out that it's fashion in SOL ala ciyaalka xaafada aka beezaani to point finger at the politic section and present one's self in the cyber world as a apolitial stud The Lil clever chit chat he's practising today in GS will one day redeeem him from the time spent in that section, we hope. Il Capo Fidel, who by the way is born n raised in Manhattan , is right on the money when he said help urself first and stash that green, build yourself a house, lend a hand to a needy family, and sip tea with right folk...

Fidel, amigo mio, you are missing the point by a mile iyo hudhudhdu Johnny the stud of SOL, as usual, is out of topic not to mention incoherent in his post Signore Ngonge is also comparing oranges and apples ID theory is not faith based theory and Christian Right jumped into the bandwagon for political and social reasons. Ironically Darwin's theory or rather the basis of his theory starts with assumption (Life is big accident and God has no role in both design and creation of the living organism) and from there it explains a whole lot that has nothing to do with that assumption. I have a feeling that once the word scientific is thrown in into the mix some of you are willing to swallow it without even tasting the thing! At issue is whether Darwinism can explain how man transitioned from chemical elements to bacteria-like organism to fish to mamamls then to its current form. At issue also is whether Darwinism can furnish its emperical eveidence to support the assertion that biological creation (from start to finish) is done by mutation and selection forces alone and Super Being or God has nothing to do with this whole enterprise known as life. This is the essence of Darwin's theory. The observations Darwin and other subsequent evolutionist made about diversity of life and how living organism reproduce and adopt to their environment are good and valid observations. Likewise the carbon dating and other scientific tools are valid methodology to date the age of the fossils. However, what Intelligence Design challengers are contesting is neither the diversity of life and factors that come into play in its course nor the validity of carbon dating methodology. What they are contesting is the assertion that the history of life can be explained by Darwin's theory which doesn't take into account priori - the First Cause. Is life an accident or is it a designed product by Omniscent God? These, my friends, are the issue at hand. Now, will I let my kids attend to such lectures. Most definately! Listening to all the sides of the argument doesn't hurt a bit!

^ Marra waaxid. Show ilayn kaftan dhablahana waad taqaan oo marbaad tuurataa. Tolstoyoow saaxiib war kugu ma seegana. Xogta wargeyska Waxaa la yiri uu hayo si caam ah baa loo og yahay. Shidadu waxay ka taagan tahay waa sida Xaafad waliba mid gaara oo dhegaha tolku u riyaaqaan ay u tebinayso. Taaduna kuwaa kama agab sokeyso! Maxaadse hantida iga maqan iyo bukaanka socodka liita ee ay ku maqan tahay aad addigu ugu dhex jirtaa? Mise War Xume Tashiil doc-ka yeerka aad u badiyaa tahay? Mise waxaad tahay nabiibkii munaafaqada iyo mu'aamarada la dhabacnaa ee abwaanku tilmaamay ee uu lahaa Baadida waxaa jira , ruux kula baafinaayo, In Ilaah kuu bixiyana kaala bakhaylee, intaa laba bogleeya War-baanse kuu hayaa. Tolsotooyoow hantidu Soomaali badan bey ka amqan tahay oo hadde awoowe sidaad mooday ma aha. Inna Jirdeey ka maqan tahay oo badh qoysaska Xamar dega waa ka maqan tahay. Ayaan-darradu meel walba waa gaadhay dad badan baana dagaalka ahliga ku dulman. Halka aad tiri inna Yussuf baa tolku sugayey awoowe war aad seegtay baa jira. Awoowe wiil hooga Inna Yussuf horta tol ma dirsan umana maqna. Sideedana xaafada shido badan iyo annaa i iri buu awalba loo joogay haatana Ilaahay waa naga waday . Hadde Somali baa caleemo saaratay oo waad ogeyd in Nairobi rag ay ugu cad cad yihiin kywa Xamar haatan jooga inay iyagu idaacadaha ka amaannayeen. Waa jiraan dad uu abtirsiimo ku beer dulucsado. Laakiin xaafada iyo tolku iyaguu geeskooda ku cabaa oo uu rag ku qaabilaa e iyaggu issagga kuma tiirsanna shiduu kala maqan yahay. Hadaad war doon ahayd oo aad Xaajiga war doon saaka ugu timid waa laguu warramayaa hadaad gob xaajadeed iyo sidii lagu yiqiin nin ka kalaama miis rag leeyahay aad hadalka kiisa mudan soo hormarineysid ee aadan maatada loo gafay wiirsigooda la soo shir tagayn Intaa horta waa hadal nin wayn. Hadaba laguu warran. Waxaa la yiri mar dhow waxaa iman ciidan fara wayn oo Inna Yussuf uu meel ku urrursaday. Waxa la yiri nimanka loogu maahmaahay Ragna ma aha, ragna wax uma oga ganbadeey rogeen oo dhufays baa la wada golay. Waxaa la yiri Tolostoy gows danbeedkuu ka qoslayaa oo waxa uu leeyahay Xamdi mahad mar hadii Rabbi mar labaad isku diray oo reerku sal inuu dhigo aannu Ilaah qadarin. Waxa la yiri warqdaha aad qodheen ilaa Tel Aviv ilaa iyo Washigntom baa laga akhriyey. Waxaa la yiri na arkaay iyo Cabiidsiga Talyaanigu inaanu gaarin kan Ingiriiska oo uu kan Ingiriisku in badan tayadiisu ka sareeyso kan Talyaaniga yaa faaladiinu u badneyd

Yonis, Sxb they the PL authorities cited couple of TFG draft articles and I thought I check them before I say anything on the issue. What is so interesting is not so much what the PM had to say but the internal politics within the PL that now the Col. has made clear where he stands on the question of PL regional autonomy vs. TFG's attempt to impose its non-existent powers so early in the game.

Morning, Diversity in opinions is always good and we got quite plenty of it in here. As u all concede men are endowed with intellect and almost all of them make use of it in some form or another. Some dedicate their lives in advancing human knowledge others deal with abstracts and try to impose their point of view as the only valid way to understand things. Others made career to deny the existence of the Creator and wrote volumes on the subject. One wonders where is the dividing line? Is it having a degree from accredited institution that one gives the credentials to qualify the title or is it the fact that being skeptic on what the prevalent view of the age dictates what does the trick or perhaps having inquiring mind that speaks about what one makes of what one examines? Some of you associate Intellectuals with intelligent men whose ideas and ideologies are quite different from someone who believes say in active God who manages and directs the world affair. I’m not impressed by Atheists in any way, shape, or form . Couple that with the fact that the word has lost its maening and nowadays espouses all kinds of connotations. Some of you have seen the TV and their talking heads and pundits. One can’t help but notice the overuse of the word “expert†some of them who in making their case for some cause reference to an intellectual whose views are in line with the goals they want to advance. Heck! Paul Wolfowitz is an intellectual in the eyes of many. Now, today the ones that get showered with these labels: “experts†and “intellectuals†have not written an encyclopedic treaties nor have they invented a useful scientific gadget nor have they advanced the human knowledge and yet they are given the title. Whenever I hear the term, I can’t help but think of the current bearers of the term..

Originally posted by Tolstoy: you'll recalled that since late October of last year(2004) that never a single day passes quietly without him(Col. Yey) shaking his fist demonstrably and forcefully for all to see, just in-order to indicate that he will "Sweep" his enemies and all that stand his way and his "Government" to the tender mercies of the shark-infested depth of the Indian ocean of the Horn-of-Africa. No one thought it will be that easy except the old man . Must be the exuberance of proving the skeptics wrong that made him spaek this way. You'll recall recall that somebody thought the seat is reserved for his ilk for "they" have won Somali conflict. It turn out that only Inna Yussuf's foot could fit the shoe quite natuarlly Now, I'm not surprised that you, of all people, would wish the South to go through yet another devastating civil war whose outcome would make one segment of the Somali population political minority. It's quite understandable given your sorry state of perpetual grief. Put it to rest bud! Let it be known that this government despite its many mistakes (avoidable) would succeed not by its sheer military power (something it doesn't have) but by the support of the population and the International community. when that happens brace yourself for the inevitable. Some band in the national radio will sing that sober song just as they did in the late fifties: Hoobalay hoobee hoobaleey hobee, Waa gabr suldaan dhalayoo, Salibeey ku hurudaayeey, Hoobaleey hoobee hoobaleey hoobee, Sallibeey ku hurudaayoo, Waa la soo sasabayaaye Hoobaleey hoobee hoobaleey hoobee, Waa la soo sasabayaayoo, idinku ha u samir daraaninee e Oh the melody of the song is quite entertaining. Somaliweyn the message is cut the secessionists some slack just as the song says ha u samir daraanine e... ------ Maantana Maxaa la yiri?

^Very interesting.

^My understanding is the author is asking what comes to our mind when we hear this term not necessarily the formal definition of the term intellectual. As to the question, yes these men can be called intellectual if the formal definition must be used. I myself prefer scholars or enlightened men or something along these lines. Signore Ngonge what comes to ur mind when u hear the term?

Haddad, if the question is do I believe evolution in the sense of organism evolving to best adopt their environment in order to survive, Yes I do. What I don't believe is that this is self-driven mechanism. And here is where Science disappears! I am a believer. I believe there is a Divine hand guiding this process. I also believe there is a Divine Designer that pre-coded the inclanation that compels organism to adopt to their environment into the DNA. So far Darwin's theory has not convince (scientifically) me to discard this deep held believe by presenting evidence contrary to what I just outlined there. All it does is to emphasise the diversity of living things and explain why and how organism struggle for survival. You've seen it in school hows is the Natural Selectin and the "survival of the fittest" and the why is to simply survive and ensure their genes lives on. Of course I'm simplifying it but you get the picture. BTW, what's ur take on this?

Elysian, There are many variations within the Intelligent Design theories. The Christian Right version is called a Creationism if I recalled correctly. They are largelly motivated by social and political considerations and not so much by Science. For instance, they have issues of how the curriculum is developed at the district level and what sort of consideration should go into the decision-making process and who dictates what their kids learn and what are the parents' role in all of this. The real Intelligent Design challengers like scientist are challenging the assertion that Natural Selection is a purposeless self-driven mechanism. They accept that living organism evolved over time and they will continue to evolve but they reject the assertion that rules out Supreme Being "causing" this mechanism to carry on. Also at issue is whether life has a purpose at all. The Intelligent Design proponents assert that this question is philosophical/theological in nature and Darwin has not provided any new answers that can withstand the scientific inquiry. Not only that, Evolution itself has fallen short to back up its claims. For instance, there are "leaps" in the evolution chain and Darwinist claimed that future discoveries will fill and complete the chain. Intelligent Design propoenents argue that is having faith in the unknown the very thing the Science methodolgy rejects. I'm multitasking here so if my terrain of thought is not coherent enough then plain the stress and this guy who is bugging me to locate a list he had mislocated somewhere.

Awoowe Kismayo waa lagu diriray. Dagaal gacmaha la isula tagay baa ka dhacay. Dar baa barakacay, kuwaa ku le'day, dar kalaa ku dulman! Xulafa iyo huwan bay shalay joogtay maantana si kalay u eg tahay. Cida aabiga waday iyo cida gar leh dib baannu uga munaaqashaan doonnaaye. Awoowe bal khabarka Waxaa la yiri soo tebiyey maxaa ka jira?

Fidel, give Google boys couple of months...Mac folks will be taken care of.

Awesome :cool: . Go google go, go google go :cool: . Microsoft should take a note.

Horn, Waxaa la yiri Morgan is going to Kismayo and Barre is making plans to share the region with Morgan et al. This is in the news. My feeds have all the details though . Before I spill all the beans, could you please confirm whether xaafada version is in sync with this news. BTW, what's up with 'edit' feature. I just tried to edit my last post but it seems that my time is up to do that. It must be very short time. All I wanna do is change "short" to "shore". Hope things will cool down after week and SOL will be normal again.

Hoodi hoodi qaraabo, Larry Kind had an imperesive panel on his Larry King Live show last tuesday (this week). The show was about the Itelligent Design. Intelligent design is a contraversial theory that asserts that Darwin's theory is not based on science. The challengers side had a one scientist, a senator, and a Christian pastor. The Darwin's theory supporters had a scientist, a congresman, and a prominet author. It was an awesome one hour discussion. I hope some of you had seen it. Now, this topic interest me enough that I read couple of books and I kinda fell in line with the opposite side of argument against Darwin not because of religious reasons but the compelling evidence the other side presented in their argument. However, the overwhelmingly support the Christian Right has given and their Biblical refernces to validate their side of argument gave me a pause. Nevertheless the dogmatic attitude of Darwinian supporters and the endless put down without addressing the substantive claims of the Intelligent Design makes me lil bit disappointed with so called Establishment (Acedemia). Have you guys paid any attention to this new development? What's your take on this issue?

Wlc back Che...hope everything is great... Xiin, that must be Mataan Ciideed and oh what a let down for the pride-to-be. Yaa fahmaaya hadde. lol@Gediid, unforgivable!! I even gave them a hint: only three cups of tea can get me wrap it up...warka aan hayo tiradiis...no one got it except the meastro :cool: . Well done. On the nominations, there are many many vacancies . I'll pass a good word on u and I will let the old man know where u hail and what u can do to short up support for the Il President . Count on me sxb when I got the golden cup I'll take care of all my cyber friends . Waryee Shoobaro, awoowe ha fogaan aad ciyaalka xaafada iga habeysidee. Ilaahow wax cadaabta naga xigsada hanoo waayin

^ Many thanks Xiin and Tolstoy. As Somalis used to say Wax ma yaqaan, War moogaa ka liita Xiin and Tolstoy thanks again warka aad milix ku badiseen . Opinions vary and yours are noted. Facts, however, remain just that, facts! No one is entitled to his or her own facts. And as of today, there are no winners in the Somali saga. It continues. Tolstoy, Greater Somalia is a policy grounded on a set of principles. Today, that policy and its advocates are not prominent in the Somali politiking. Realistically speaking, “Somaliweyn†does not even have a chance to make it to the agenda let alone succeed. What you seem not to understand is the current players in the stage are motivated by pure clannish sentiments and once the allegiance of what makes up the herd shifts the whole game plan fails. This is even more true in your clannish Bantustan corner! What unites Burcawis and Hargeisawis despite their divergent economic interests is not that they have once been butlers for the same colonial master . What unites them is the same thing that unites Laas Qoray, Laas Caano, and Garowe and the same thing that blinds Mogadishu folks from seeing the anarchy and mayhem their kin have to put up with day in and day out. Xiinoow awoowe Tolstoy waa assaga dayn waayey ayaan darrada iyo dagaalka ahliga ah maatada waxyeelada ku soo gaartay inuu ku tilmaamo "defeated" bal mar u mari gabaygii Ismaciil Mire uu agoonka ku halqabsaday issagoo u duur xulaya niman aano qabay iyo hadalo ka soo yeeryeeray ee uu lahaa Isma oga dhilada uunsatiyo, awga taa'ibay e, Isma oga agoon, iyo ninkii aabahood dilay e, Misse awoowe ina Ugaas xikmadiisaan u mariyaa. Waxaa la yiri Raage Ugaas oo gogol nabadda fadhiya oo rag wax garad ah kala xaajoonaya sida nabadda loo xagsan lahaa oo tanaasulay baa mid aan sidaa wax ula socon oo tookh ay uga cad tahay sida Tolstoy yaa rag dhintay magacyadooda iyo sida loo dilay ka sharqamiyay! Inna Ugaas waxaa laga hayaa xikmad dhaxal gal noqotay ee uu ugu jawaabay wiilashaa xoogu cusleeyay ee aan rag wax lagu dhaqo xoogaana ka garanaynin. Inna arri jireed iyo nimaan habarti awr goynin, Sow waxaan ilaababa nin xunni ima ogaysiiyo!

Where's ur contribution Sky? Give and take man , give and take sxb! Ngonge, Signore Fidel is the driver on this one from now on sxb. Send the qaraamis to the email he provided through the pm tonight! before he loses steam We had our chat through pm and I'm confident my man Fidel will come through. The rest of the crew if u feel u can help in any way, form, or shape plz pm the Capo Fidel.

Morning, Glad u all like it. Ngonge, good to be back sxb. By any chance, do u have Somali collection (in mp3 format). Fidel is eager to replicate radio.blog and put the magic nomad touch on it. Fidel, get to work and get it done . I will donate tracks to this project. I got Dhuule, Mooge, Saleebaan, Hanuuniye, Magool, Tahliil, and other well known artists tracks sitting in my sonicstage player. Libaax has done his share and there is no need to burden him on this one. All u need from him is a nod. BW, is there any copyright concern in all of this? BN, what kind of collection do u have in ur possession sxb?

Horn, Adeer I shared the news as "Maxaa la yiri" News Wires have reported it. I'm here to listen to the "Junkies" to tell me as their "xaafad" reported it. How about analysis? Are you in mood of telling us as you see it? Noh? War "Maxaa la yiri"? Anyone?