Awoowe Hassan wadanka ma leh. Nabbada adigga ku nool ee iyadda kuguma noola. Waxu waa siyaasad sideedana siyaasadu ma aha wada xadiid ah oo tareenku maro oo meeshay gashaba ku qasban in uu saarnaado. Hadaad sida tareenka aad saarnaadto hadde meel tilmaaman oo si caam ah loo yaqaan bay ku geyneysaa. Pointigu waxa weeye mnidaam baa la sameystay. Nidaamkaa baa nakala hagaya. Wax ha laka riixdo oo nin iyo damacii sidii inna rag lagu yiqiin. Laakiin ummada iyo wadanka in la halaago ma aha. Nidaamka yaal baa lagu kala baxayaa. Ninka ka weecdana dee ummadu ha wada aragto. Dawladnimadii iyo qaranimadii baan Hassan uga tagayaa sida in uu issagu leeyahay waa hadal carruureed.

Xiinoow, You gotta give it to Hassan and his G-boys allies. They have stolen the show, muddied the water and made a parallel narrative. This is the classical xaalad abuur. On the other hand Hassan's presidency is defined by his opposition to the byproduct of the very process that brought him to power. He knowingly and willingly put his entire presidency on the line by carefully picking his fights with specific constituencies. Now Madobe and et al need to play this serious game like a pro. The new admin needs to do the following: 1. Send a delegation to Mogadishu and publicly request a meeting with Hassan, Saacid and Jawaari. 2. Draft a formal request (through the PMs that represent the region) to have parlaiment consider to take up this issue and other weighty issues like the upper house, constitutional court and so on. 3. Assemble its militia and attack AS and put Hassan on the spot and have him reveal his hand. 4. Ask the government to grant their share of the foreign aid. The news cycle will dramatically change and Hassan will be hard pressed to say the fight against AS is not a priority for his government.

That's not the way to go about this and you know it awoowe If and when the planned election of 2016 materializes that's when folks can exercise their vote. As it stands now the government of president Hassan will stay put in office till that date. What JL can do is to recall their MPs from the capital. That move will probably not do much from legislative point of view as the quorum of the parliament will be met by the presence of the remaining MPs. But what it could do is show solidarity of the representative of JL with the local government. Politics is a serious business but it is also an art and those who perfected in its compexity can use it very efficeintly.

Please fill us in. Anyone?

Xiin, Illyria -- do you have inside information on what went on in the run up to the election? Where is Gandi and et al? By the way, international media is picking up the news. Former Islamist warlord Ahmed Madobe has been elected "president" of Somalia's volatile southern Jubaland region following weeks of tense negotiations between rival factions, officials said Wednesday. "Ahmed Madobe was elected by an overwhelming majority to be the president of Jubaland," said Abdi Nasser Serar, spokesman for the 500-strong conference of clan elders and local leaders who voted for a leader, a move opposed by the central government in the capital Mogadishu. http://za.news.yahoo.com/ex-islamist-somali-warlord-elected-president-key-region-182133427.html

You folks saw madax. I saw xarash -- the other side of the coin. I saw a genuine, committed and narrow-minded clannish politician. I saw a clever, civil and pretty thoughtful reporter. He took Feysal to the task and put him the proverbial hot seat. He asked him really tough questions. Feysal answered them all. He didn't dodge them Public got unfiltered raw answers from the man.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/538e9550-b3e1-11e2-ace9-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2TKgMPsPO The sun is shining and when the sun shines and the curtains are lifted folks will see the true colors of the ne-colonialists for what they truly about. President Hassan should hold the line. He shouldn't mess with federalism though. If he does that he could win big for Somalia.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;949095 wrote: Baashi, caadi iska dhig. I didn't distort nothing, Keyd Media did. Granted, I should have validated the source. Laakiin it doesn't diminish an iota the truth: The true native residents of these coastal cities and towns -- the Greater Banaadir region of Baraawe, Marko and Xamar, plus Kismaayo. Those in the clip were the native citizens of these cities and towns. Waala xasuuqay, waala barakiciye, hantidooda la boobay, ilaa haddana la boobayaa, including dhulkooda. Taas iskama indhatiraaye, if others knowingly do, iyagee jirtaa beentee isku sheegaan. Not me. And that is what is important, to me at least. Right Minorities had it bad; really bad. They put up with a lot of abuse. Murder, rape, kidnapping, theft, humiliation, looting and what have you -- you name it and they've seen it. It seemed impossible that anyone could endure such pain and heartache. All true! Is this what this pointless post is all about? I thought you were trying to say that the folks with NFD, K-5, Gedo or PL ancestry who continue to butt heads over the control of the port there are aliens and this video was somehow the holly grail to finally show the SOL skeptics that these folks are aliens to the land and not the true natives! Very well. Since this botched attempt backfired and didn't make sense why don't you try again and this time make a compelling case that might pass muster with the silent readers of the SOL. And this time think critically and don't let your bias get the better of you as was the case with this post when you formed an unsubstantiated opinion and used google to find something to bolster that opinion. Maxaad ii keentay!

Great. It's about time.

Episode II -- It's Free Country was aired tonight. It featured Somalis in Minneapolis to showcase that point. Love it. The Somali lady Peter conversed with was fariidad. PS.- the local Somali community are somehow prominent in the media (for all the wrong reasons) but this time it was lil bit different.

The clip posted is about 12:25 to 22:20.

MMA awoowe the clip you posted is about fishing co-op in Mogadishu (in 80s). It has nothing to do with Kismayo. You know about this because you have seen it and commented on it a month ago when it was posted here in SOL. Why go such length to knowingly distort an issue of a great importance and propagate a white lie? Why become an accessory to clan activist media outlet that has made their mission to revisit and rewrite historical events in order to push their agenda? What's in it for you brother? Subxana Allah. Here is the SOL video clip posted in late March. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/70399-Muqdisho-1980?highlight=1980 Watch the primary source before Keydmedia tampered with original documentary. I remembered it because when it was posted here on SOL I sent the link to someone. Please delete it or correct it.

Awoowe as you know I am rooting for Kismayo and this peaceful process to succeed but I have my doubts about these news portals. Let's hope it is true and the election will take place in the specified date. Hope the cameras are there for all to see.

Illyria, Share your take on the program and if you would please extrapolate the process of conceiving a social contract that addresses the concerns of all interest groups whilst at the sometime protecting the power of the federal government to execute and act decisively in order to advance the collective interest of all constituents.. Extrapolate that process to the one Somalis are going through and see how nomads in our side of the globe might devise something along those lines that acknowledges the grievances Somalis have against each other and devise a similar contract between all these competing interest groups while at the sometime preserving the effectiveness of the state in a rough neighborhood. So far folks came up with Federalism! Will it work? Does it address the concerns of all interest groups? Are there other practical ideas out there? Mintid, awoowe you are stating the obvious. The two societies, cultures, circumstances and experiences are different. Agreed! But the yearning for justice, for benevolent and effective government is universal.

Immisa jeer bay yiraahdeen ergada waa loo xulay. Bal aan dhawrno Talaadada waxba innaga ma xigaan e! They gotta get this baby to bed NOW or they will regret it pretty soon. Time is the essense here.

Illyria, I am sure you would loved it. It's extremely informative program. The NPR radio persoanlity Peter takes current issues and superimposes on the historical narratives founders adavanced. He adds tidbits in a teasing way about the conflict between the federal vs. states...

This is not about Somalia’s Provisional Constitution. However by watching it one might come away with the understanding that any contract drawn by men is inherently incomplete and unbounded. As good as the American social contract is it is full of grey areas and has its share of loopholes that are open for number of interpretations. We nomads are going through all sorts of crisis including social upheavals. Couple that with the fact that the leading figures in our politics are informed by their recent experiences and hence one might argue that they are motivated by the defining events in this dark era of Somali history. Are they up for the task and truly represent their constituents and by extension improve the social contract? We shall see Next time you read or hear about constitutional disputes remember it is necessary political arguments over the details of the constitution that folks need to have NOW so we won’t have another painful and costly correction down the road.

I enjoyed watching this civic education program and thought I share it with SOL crowd. http://video.pbs.org/program/constitution-usa-peter-sagal/

Mintind, The family squabble and which child gets the upperhand matters in the sense that without having these family members reconciled and on the same page, the large schemes these foreign powers have for Somalia will not materialize.

Oodweyne, I disagree. IC is privy to the roadmap and the history of the JL's effort in forming a federal state in deep South. This effort preceded Hassan and is inline with the Constitution. Xiin, I don't know. Come to think of it, I now wonder why that is the case. Could it be he's tied up with Syria and never-ending mess that is ME.

Mintid Farayar;947053 wrote: The raison d'être for this entire Conference is an attempt to marshall the different non-Somali initiatives ongoing in Somalia to fall in line behind the Anglo-American strategy for the region. Of these initiatives, there are many. There's a lot of foreign cash floating around Mogadishu(primarily coming from Muslim states flush with cash) which doesn't come through the financial monitoring mechanisms set up by the West thru the UN. There's the Kenyan-endorsed Jubba initiative which has its troublesome maritime boundary implications for the booming hydrocarbon industry in East Africa, there's Ethiopian disenchantment(the favorite surrogate of the West in the region when it comes to security issues/Al Shabaab) with diminishing military-budget support from both the EU and US.... and the list goes on..... All of these have the potential to upset and destabilize the Anglo-American blueprint for the region and Somalia Right there. Awoowe you just made a bull's eye. A direct hit!

Mintid, I am not focusing anything here. Awoowe ha naga dhabqin sheekada . We are dicussing politics and that sectuon seemed appropriate section to look at. Now they are not endorsing any particular plan. And the way I read it the authors of the communique view the formation of regional admins as a joint responsibility between the center and the periphery.

Oodweyne;947041 wrote: Mintid As for your ultimate question I think it will largely depend how he politically stabilised his country in the next 2 to 3 years. And in that sense he is no more different than Karzai of Afghanistan since in his early days the Bush regime sold him to be the panacea of the trouble od that country. And now they are bailing out on him since he has proven to be such an incompetent creature. So I say our Hassan of Mugadisho has a few years to milk the West in support of his agenda abs come 2015 at latest if he is still up to his neck with endless political and constitutional argument with some section of the Somalis he will then become just another stooge who couldn't deliver when it mattered the most and therefore like Karzai he will be left to political wolves of his country to devoured him. Agreed.

Norf not the reporter, I meant the PM. Will watch after work Insha Allah.

Are you sure? If that's the case then it is back to square one! The communique "endorced" : ...the dialogue on the future structure of Somalia that has begun between the Federal Government and the regions. We welcomed progress on forming regional administrations and looked forward to the completion of that process. We encouraged the regions to work closely with the Federal Government to form a cohesive national polity consistent with the provisional constitution." Illyria is righ on...