^Not true. Oodweyne, read my posts in this thread first. And then will sit and do some analyzing aight. waa ku kaa. Xiinoow, awoowe halkay wax iska qaban la'yihiin?

Somalinimo maxay tahay is the question. And how does it relate to politics is another offshoot question. Waan gartay. Good topic btw. My take of Somalinimo is simple and straightforward. Marwo Aaminaay Somalinimo encompasses several concepts chief among them fraternity, identity (both cultural and political), and nationality as well. Take fraternity for instance ok. Somalis, the nation or the ethnic group, are said to be composed of several (about five) clan families (and they see themselves that way too, clans from noble origin) associated by ties of brotherhood (inter marriage) enforced by common faith in Islam. That is how the term was understood by majority of Somalis prior the current civil war (civil war that went through different stages – '78 to current). Oral literature from Qarshe’s Somaliyeey Toosooy to Maryan Musrsal’s Soomaali u Diida Ceeb is a testimony to that fact. Waa tahay. Next -- identity. Cultural identity basically refers to (at least to my understanding) how social groups see/define themselves. Majority of the people feel themselves as being belonging to nation or ethnic group (for instance white first, then American, then Jew). Somalinimo refers to being part of Somali nation. I’m positive that all Somalis regardless where he or she is born or bred identify him/herself with other Somalis through family ties, language, nationality, religion, and what not. Same is true with identity in political sense. Belonging to a group means one is a member of social and dynamic ethnically defined group of people. Groups have interests. Good or bad, one’s destiny, aspirations, is tied to the group he/she is part of. Qallanjo ila soco. This explains why some1 who lives and calls London home might want to advance the interest of his group. Hadaan la sarifin oo qofku qadiyadiisu meel sare gaarsiisan tahay then one, the active ones who care, might advocate and advance, forcefully, the interest of say his/her nation, for the sake of common good. Naturally, by logical extension, being a Somali myself, I get saddened when I see someone who's oppressed or denied his/her rights just because he/she is a Somali (my Somalinimo kicks in here). In this context Somalinimo shares elements of nationalistic streak with other oppressed nations (Kurds, Arabs, Jews, or Blacks in the states, for instance). Nationality therefore is an integral part of identity politics. It is often said that Somalis are nation without unified state. Now, I for one don’t let my schooling interfere with my education to paraphrase Twain for I don't let the concept of nation-state define which oppressed ethnic group should or should not get the right to decide what its future would be. Regardless of how current world order, or for that matter the old world order, operates, one can't help but fully concur with the Somali founding father’s understanding that, by virtue of Somalinimo (with all its positive connotations), the borders of future Somali state ought to be congruent to the border of the nation. Now I understand that the current world order, built on the previous world order in which victorious allies struck a deal between them as to how they intend to share the spoils of then crumpling imperial powers, defines nation-state in a way that’s inline of their interests. Because of energy security or domestic (Christian right) interest group's considerations, the current world order allows a room to wiggle - bend the UN rules – so East Timor can be freed from an oppressive state in the name of self-determination but not Palestine, Chechnya, or Ogadnia. Pretty convenient soo ma aha. Waxay ahaan lahaydba today Somalis are fighting for a different kind of Somalinimo -- a one that’s three notches below of nationalism – negative tolnimo (ahem copyright is in place). Haye hadde. [ August 28, 2007, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Baashi ]

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Check in iTunes for free Qur'an recitation. I downloaded Mahmoud Khaliil al Hussery (my fav) complete set of mp3 from the store for free.

Busy with adduunyo all the time. Excuses are plenty and I tell myself that I can't be bothered to do this for I gotta family to feed. One of these days one of these days Insha'Allah.

2. From The Anarchist Magazine: A. International Terrorist Convention. Events, Speakers and Trade Show, Nice surprises at the Registration booth! B. Condi Rice's Theory of Creative Chaos and Darwins Theory Of Evolution. Studpidity, Mother of all Blunders. C. Foot in Mouth Desease, Politicians and People! Post this one, if u would, in Politics section for a change.

Looking forwad to this Ramadan. I'll be at home sweet home. I'll make up Insha'Allah all the lectures and trawiix I've missed last year.

Shukran Nur. Mid ha la iga qoro. Meel aan masaajid iyo Muslim midna lahayn kunoolaashaheeda dadoow ha laga feejignaado.

Good for ya. One of these days awoowe one of these days.

Khalaf only ur grandpa can recognize a name like that. Ya gotta be not a "G" to know who Al is. I'm a Dinosaur al right kidos

I've been there the other day - last Sunday to be exact. That was really lovely. More snaps -- check'em out

Get ur camera powered up. There will be spectacular moon eclipse coming up pretty soon -- this one is a one of a kind. I can't be bothered to look up the date but it is withing coming weeks.

^That ain't rer waqoyi calaacal homeboy. Check! Speaking of manly men shedding tears -- oh yes they do cry. Cold heartedness is not a quality associated with manliness.

Try Saint Coran (The Holy Quran) read by my fav Mahmoud Khaliil al Hosary. Ya can download the 114 surah from iTunes - all for free!!!!!!!!! I got the whole "album" on my iPhone and yeah I got the toy...dang this is "the" gadget for nerd that is -- it is a something. As to songs -- one of my fav is Ain't no sunshine when she's gone by Al Green. The melody is quite up there and yes melody and lyrics not the beat are what usually make me lsiten to songs.

My man ThePoint may I try to shed light on your concerns? Yeah! Super. A1. They want to have a right to preach, to form political association, to pitch for leadership in post-conflict Somalia without having to listen to the didatic lectures given by bulldogs of the region and their sponsors in the land of the brave. A2. The platform is familiar Sharia-based governance but not spelled out in terms of how that gets executed and how one gets the hurdles on the way -- ignorance, clan allegience, foreign threat, powerful and competing warlords, etc., outta way. A3. No. A4. Asmara group consists of alliance of Islamists, nationalists, and clanists expelled from the TFG's decion-making elite. A5. Some are. Some are not. The ones that are open to new compromise is led by Inna Aideed Jr. UIC leadership are opposed to that idea. Their beef is the venue and the fact that those who are commissioned to hunt them down are charged in managing the security details. Awoowe Somalia's shido is a migrane headache. The trouble with the Asmara's position, however justified, is that TFG is a winner by default. I have proposed a contraversial tactic that would have put the TFG and its backers on the hot spot. Maxayse kuuga taal awoowe haw bay igu soo yiraahdeen. Gacan ku gabad baan ahay. Halakan sheeko iyo shaah baan u imid iyo inaan ragga akhyaarta ah iskala sheekaysto haatanse kax baan joogaa oo inaan iska aamuso yay u badan tahay.

This is Habasha's year. They kill some, occupy others, give a helping hand to few, train useful *diots in other regions and even manage to sign a contract with other Muslim state while clearing the venue of exploration from Muslims in a way that even the gaalo couldn't put up with. Halkee wax ka khaldan yihiin tolow.

Ayoub, Lets just put aside Inna Yussuf bio and what the Mujahidiin up in the recovery zone can do for their brothers (militarily, financially, moral support, etc). Likewise, lets set aside the topic of what residents of Benadir have done to meet their end of the bargain for now. Lets take a look on what should be on the reconciliation dirrin, instead aight. On the dirrin are all the political thorny issue everyone seems to be avoiding now. Power-sharing equation, Islamist’s role, Ethiopian presence, security headache, real estate issues, drafted constitution (full of contradiction and almost evasive on the milestones that matter the most), Somaliland-Puntland border demarcation – these are political problems one needs to put to bed before moving to post-conflict Somalia equation. Trouble is in some weird way, each and every one of the list above is arguably colored by shady clannish paint - paint that is neither black nor white nor grey. Granted one side of the conflict might try to play games and throw obstacles when things don’t go their way. Still the fact that the talking is done in a dirrin setting is in itself a departure from the armed confrontation that require a foreign backing. Trust me awoowe Somalis are good in talking and reaching compromises. The thing is how to get them (the folks that really matter) under the qurac is a science project in need of funding. I’m banking on the hope you will agree with me the big picture I’ve outlined above namely let’s for once understand that clan conflict requires resources and those who don’t have the logistical resources will take cover in wherever they can find cover first and will struck back by any means necessary. On dirrin setting, things are radically different. What ya need is security and teeth behind the agreed framework. Sure those who have the upper hand will sit on the dirrin with heads high and shoulders straight and try to cement their loot or gains. However at the end of the day non-armed and minorities win concessions in dirrin than they could have possibly win in battlefield. I will come back to Benadir resident comment, Inna Yussuf’s biography, and what SL can do to help Islamists. Later.

^ I like ya buddy. I really do. TFG, those who are conspiring with the enemy, clan worshippers, and what have you, have no principles. They don't have to abide the rules of engagement. Those who fight in the name of Islam do. You can't be an assassin and profess Islam as ur guiding light at the same time awoowe. The two don't mix. Not only that it is always a good move to show, nay prove, that you have the high moral ground. Killing the armed militia is justifiable. Targeting non armed clan elders is not. The only thing that kinda game will accomplish is pushing more clannist (the ones that their chief have been downed) under the enemy column. Bad tactic. Doesn't work.

Good call. Extra judicial killings (elders and what not) are dulmi and Islam has no room for dulmi.

Originally posted by Ghanima: Baashi I've recently noticed (on politics section and women’s section) a dishonest underhanded approach masked with a smile, I think my eyes are just beginning to opening. No worries -- I too hear voices coming from far away land, see shadows dancing on the walls, and read conspiring threads posted on xaawaleey & cyber-ku-dirrir sections

Bruce Fein isn't an alarmist. He says he doesn't see martial law coming tomorrow. But he is also realistic. "Really, by declaring the US to be a battlefield, Bush already made it possible for himself to declare martial law, because you can always declare martial law on a battlefield," he says. "All he would need would be a pretext, like another terrorist attack on the U.S." Indeed, the revised Insurrection Act (10. USC 331-335) approved by Congress and signed into law by Bush last October, specifically says that the president can federalize the National Guard to "suppress public disorder" in the event of "national disorder, epidemic, other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident." That determination, the act states, is solely the president's to make. Congress is not involved. Scary. Hopefuly, the next president would be different from current one.

Good move, not-so good move, wrong move from Shababi's part? Which one is it ya Juje?

Sovereignty of Somaliland is a recipe for another disaster for the folks in that neck of the woods are bitterly divided on this issue along clan lines. If you tell me why I should support Burco in their separation drive and deny Las Caano the same right in their desire to stay put, I will reconsider my objection against dismembering this poor and war ravaged wasteland. Do we have a deal ya Muajhid? As to me finding easy supporting TFG well I don’t support TFG. I do not support dulmi. I do not support daalim. I’m dead against Tigre giving hand one side of the Somali conflict. I’m against their presence in Somalia. I see the way out from different perspective than most of diehard patriots. I support peace. I do support reconciliation effort and whoever undertakes that difficult task. Crystal?

No shahiid I for one got it al right. British Somaliland and Italian Somaliland are different cuz one is British trained bunch of nomads and the other is Italian trained bunch of camel boys. Crystal. Las Caano is totally different from Garowe for above mentioned obvious reasons. Not that different say from Jiido speaking rer Arbow Heerow and violent Somali speaking Mudug. But that is minor differences considering overriding fact that the two regions were once upon time colonized, illegally, by different and competing European powers. Totally, got it buddy. Just ignore all these “haters” ya know who…it is pure hate that got them talking. Envious of the progress, stability, and peace attained by the better half the one British trained is what really got them screaming. Write them off as such yaa Mujahid fii sabiiliLaah.

Cool marwo, qallanjo run for ur life. The pack will go for the kill pretty soon and their Alpha male is here as we speak. Run qorraneey run.