Investments and foreign investment in particular is always good to have invested in your neck of the wood. I would just caution that we put our magnifying glasses on and read the fine prints before we sign these deals. Tony Hayward is an old hand and he is alpha wolf in Oil industry. It pains me to see that the competency level of our side of the aisle is not up to par.

Let them vote. I have been trying to decipher this political saga. I have heard through the grapevine that the whip is a Damul-Jadiid original and has completely dropped his garb. He’s offering inducements (benjamins and in bundles, appointed positions, cabinet posts, ambassaorships, etc) and threatens punishments for MPs to ensure that they vote according to Villa Somalia’s wishes. Talking heads and pundits are interested in the final tally. It would be interesting to see how the clan alliances shift and to what direction.

Oodweyne;986864 wrote: ^^^ Mooge , But, at the end of the day, everyone knows (most certainly the Brits knows) that this is a "semantics play" intended to cover (or insulate) the British against any accusation of encouraging internal division within the Somali Republic, by the ever enfeeble outfit that is based in Mogadishu, which, surprisingly passes itself off as a government of Somalia. All in all, see to it to learn the "double-language" of diplomacy and how it's especially useful in situation like this. True. "Northern Somalia" is euphemism for Separatist enclave. It is a doublespeak as you correctly pointed out. Ahem:) Awoowe isn't what the UK government doing just that -- encouraging internal division within Somali Republic? Ain't this the same old colonial deception employed to promote some subjects to butler status whilst condemning others to harsh labor? You know the drill Awoowe any power that have vested interest in that corner would break Somalis into small junks that's easier to subdue and manage. Not out of kindness but out of self interest. In all fairness they Somalis are the ones doing all the dividing. Brits on thier part are encouraging thier former colony to keep the faith. Awoowe innagu aan isu danbeynee bal Kulmiye la tali oo waxaad tiraahdaa si wanaagsan u akhriya heshiisyada kheyraadka gobolka lagu bixinayo inta aydaan qallinka ku duugin

Kudos to you then. Don't be defensive awoowe. I have lived Kenya in 8 months in 1991 and I have to say I have not seen bold Somalis demanding equal treatment under the law. I once ventured out to refugee camps in 2004 and I was taken aback by what I saw. We were stopped by Somali-Kenyan in full military fatigue and they wouldn't let us go if it were not the commanding officer who happened to be ethnic Kenyan. We were legit and had all the papers but the Somalis at the bridge crossing were insisting on that we're illegals. There are social and economic disparities in NFD that's visible to the naked eye and you are pretty defensive when folks point that simple facts. Don't be.

There are millions of Arabs out there awoowe. You posted couple of vids. These deviants are bad apples and do not represent Arabs. I could find couple of stories and even vids of your sub-clan behaving badly and draw a hasty conclusion from that and say they are animals.

Awoowe disenfrenchisement of Somalis in Kenya is real. I have seen it with my own eyes. My fellow Somali-Kenyan's have been disenfrenchised. The territories Somalis populate are under quasi-marshal law if not under full blown Marshal law. The Somali-Kenyans' movement within Kenya is restricted. The state does not invest in the territories Somalis reside as it does with other districts. They are deprived of the right to have access to basic healthcare and education that's at par with other provincial districs such as Nakuru. The NFD infrastructure is 20 to 30 years behind compared to other parts of the state. The grievances against the state is real. Do not wage violent resistance against the state but do demand equal treatment under the law. Demand access to the basic healthcare and education.

One more reason why Somaliweyn platform makes perfect sense. Insha'Allah there will be a time in the near future when the Somali state play its historic role of championing the rights of all Somalis in the region wherever they are. I believe Somalia have a compelling and vested interest in the wellbeing of Somalis in Ethiopia and Kenya. Not to mention economic (water) and security interest in the territories they occupy.

Abbaas;984770 wrote: Yaa ii'sheegi kara halka aan ka heli/akhrisan karo, taariikh nololeedkiisa oo dhamaystiran, Mahadsanid. Check the city website. I am sure they will post a brief bio of each council women or man.

Very nice of him to keep Saed in his thoughts. Larry overlooked one important social background about Saed. Had Larry known what subclan Saed belonged to, we could have helped him find his old friend Now Larry think hard lil bit and see if you could remember where in Somalia Saed called his hometown and which sub-sub-clan he hailed from. This detail is extremely important in tribal society. With that said, I am gonna do my share and go through all the Saed and Amal coubles I or my friends know of.

Hambalyo to Abdi Warsame. Somalis in Minneapolis have shown that they do count and they want to be represented in the city hall by one of their own who understands their needs. Abdi showed the way and Insha'Allah others will follow suit. That's how to run and win campaigns. Well done.

Nice. Peace is in the air. My beloved Kismayo is tasting lil normalcy. Hope it lasts long enough. Kismayo and their residents are loyal citizens of the state. They were on board all along. President Hassan though he could make appointment from Benadir. He was shown that's not gonna fly. He seems to accept things as they really were.

Haatu;983754 wrote: Morgan, the Butcherer of Hargeysa. He should be killed. By who? Mob? Is that a vigilante justice?

Oodweyne;983725 wrote: Baashi ,.. :D All in all, I think we done this particular thread to dearth; and with that I think it’s best to give it a decent send-off into the netherworld. Good call Agreed.

Xaashaa. No insults awoowe. None is given or intended. Af lagaado xaal ina rag ma aha. Your posts are dotted with occasional outthrusts that are clearly delusional and could only be penned by someone who have the disorder. Objective and informed folks would admit however biased they may be that Somali civil war had reached an impasse or stalemate if you will. Facts would cooperate with that statement and they could point out with ease that resolution to this tragic conflict between Somali clans seemed difficult and actually IS without foreign intervention. But to you there are imaginary facts and parallel realities only you are privy to where the civil war is over and the contest is won by one side. And the other variation to this delusional outburst is the folks who populate Mogadishu think that way. Now you are shifting gears and you are in the mood to latch on yet another false scenario. You seem to be saying that federal system in which Hassan admin draws his legitimacy from is not a binding constitutional article. Or they, folks in Benadir, have the majority of the votes (yet unfounded argument) to alter the constitution in order to annul federal articles. Get a grip bud. Using Mark Twain’s exhortation, Baashi is telling you “it ain’t so” Awoowe we are not getting far on this -- and come to think of it I would go farther and say we are not even having a debate here. You’re repeating yourself and adding new unfounded emphasis with your old tirade. I am keep on reading posts that could only be written by either someone who is not aware of the actualities on the ground or someone who is completely out of his mind. If you haven’t noticed we are talking past each other 

Mintid Farayar;983570 wrote: Speaking of parallel universes, it was because of desertification(according to our friends above) that Somali charcoal was banned by the Security Council, as well as the U.S. government. Here's an excerpt from Reuters: 'The Security Council banned the export of charcoal from Somalia in February 2012 to cut off one of the main sources of income for al Shabaab, which has been fighting for control of Somalia for years and enforces a strict version of sharia law in the areas it occupies.' http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/14/us-somalia-charcoal-un-idUSBRE96D01A20130714 Meanwhile, the U.S. government piled on with this: 'President Barack Obama has targeted the export of charcoal from war-torn Somalia, the sales of which help finance an al Qaeda-affiliated group, the State Department said Friday.' http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/20/obama-moves-on-charcoal-ban-from-somalia/ But good old Baashe would have us believe it's because of environmental concern that the world has become so concerned with Somalia's charcoal industry. I wonder who's spinning, or maybe smoking what P.S. It's interesting to see some still nursing the 'wounds' from the forgotten (till now) charcoal debate. Stiffen that spine, gentlemen , ..... Tomorrow is a brand new day ^ Charcoal might not banned due to decertification but it has nothing to do with the emergence of JL. You are not out of the woods yet bud That said, I relied on recollection there.