I think we're going in circles. It's a natural consequence of this power sharing agreement that the president can't do what he wishes. His power is limited. He has to fight all these political battles to do all those things you're saying should be done. Also, Somalia is already divided into several states. What this government is trying to do is not prevent a Yugoslavia. It is trying to make a Yugoslavia. That is not an easy or even desirable goal for some.

Dr.K, I feel and understand your frustration. But we have to put things into context. Consider Somaali political history after 1960. Within a decade, there was a presidential assassination and a military coup. Less than a decade after that, the insurrections began; one rebellion after another. And then the civil war, ICU, ethiopian invasion, Al-Shabaab, drones, Shariif Axmad's new suit, Hillary Clinton and the handshake heard around the world And that's just the surface. The details are a lot uglier and well documented on SOL. At this moment in history, "Somalia"--as we discuss it--is not a political reality. It is an idea. There is not a Somali nation but there are Somali nationS--SL, KH, PL, MG, JL, Al-Shabaab etc etc. All these mini-nations are political realities. And this thing we call "Federal Somalia" is only a borrowed dollar and a dream in Muqdisho. The president's job is to make this dream a reality. But not everyone shares this dream. And even among those who share the dream, each sees a different version. And guess what else? Each one of these mini-nations have their 'own borrowed' dollars and dinars. And guns. Everyone has guns. That is a recipe for catastrophe. The idea of "Somalia" is undermined each time leaders of these mini-nations meet with foreign leaders as Presidents of a territory within Somalia. It is also undermined each time a foreign company signs a deal with these mini-nations. And every time AS attacks. And yes, I agree with you that the best method to realize this "Federal Somalia" dream is through internal deal-making and negotiations. But there is a reason we have the political history that we have--we don't like to co-operate and we don't trust each other. Now it is even worse because the dream of "Federal Somalia" will sideline many men who are benefiting from the status quo. Each of these men will put up a vicious fight before yielding power. Thus, the political reality is that the President has to undermine all these men for the same reason they are undermining him----to realize his own vision for "Federal Somalia." He has to convince world leaders that he is the one and only president of a real political entity known as "Somalia." He has to make sure there is only one nation, one army, one flag from Saylaac to Kaambooni. That is why the president can't stroll through "Somali" cities shaking hands and kissing babies. The man is barely safe in Villa Somalia let alone cities where other men claim to be president. Such is the extent of our political conundrum. But we must remember that the Prophet(SAW) was fought by his family, and that Cali (ra) and Aisha (ra) went to war against each other, and that some Ottoman princes came to power only after killing off their brothers, and that Alexander Hamilton (secretary of treasury) was killed by the sitting Vice President of the United States because they could not stand each other. Yet, the history books are filled with the glory of these nations. Sometimes the ugliness may be extreme. But it is extremely necessary. And in the context of our history, this political tussle and parliament whistling is progress.

<cite> @Beer-Gaal said:</cite> I met one the president adviser who happens to be his former teacher not sure university or School, he invited us for a diner at Jazeera place , I asked him how much his food and accommodation cost is per month and who pays the bills ? he said roughly 18,000 USD bills are sent to Villa Somalia. when this former macalin of Qoslaaye is paid 20k per month for his cost of living and doing almost nothing for the people of Somalia! i wonder why FM bills are in question here? Because we don't believe your story. Do you have the receipt?

Odey & Mintid I agree that this was a great political move by PM because it exposes more than just the president. Reports suggest that Faraax is not just another bureaucrat. He is the man behind a movement. He is the bridge between Muslim world (i.e. Muslim Brotherhood) and the current Dam Jadiid leaders. Mintid says that this is a threat to present American interests because of "radical Islam." But American foreign policy has shown hostility to Islamist groups regardless of whether or not they are moderate/democratically elected (Egypt; Turkey). Thus, the "international community" is not a neutral player here. Securing Western interests means the limitation of Turkish and Brotherhood influence in Somalia. And the best way to accomplish this is the removal of Faarax and, ultimately, the president from their positions. But the world is changing. A new multi-polar world is emerging. China, Russia, Turkey are all have great leverage against the United States. Together these 3 nations are trying to influence wherever Western power is fading. And the President knows this which makes it really easy for him to say "NO" to the "international community." He does not need the West. And that is biggest threat to Western powers--a Somalia independent of their influence.

We see your narrow agenda. It is only to cause trouble between Somali brothers. You hope that your constant vitriolic, hate-filled rants will get Somalis to insult other Somalis. But we're smarter than that. We know that no one fool on the internet can represent the good people of Somaliland. We know that the likes of you are a dying breed. And that is why you are here--LOUDER THAN EVERYONE else; trying to convince us that you and your ideology of hatred and division still matter. No. You don't. Good riddance.

For people with better sources, does anyone know which way Asha Haji Cilmi and Fowziya are voting?

<cite> @CidanSultan said:</cite> The people of Somalia getting raped. Killed. Occupied etc. This just makes you so happy, right? You love this, don't you? It's good to remind people how those heathens of Somalia are raped at gun-point, right? The people of Somalia deserve to get raped and killed, right? It tickles you, right? It makes you drop a load in your thigh-high shorts, right? You would like it if they all died, right? But you would like it even more if they got occupied and raped every day, right? IT'S JUST SO MUCH FUN TO WATCH THEM SUFFER, RIGHT? We get it. Fuck off.

<cite> @CidanSultan said:</cite> Bunch of delusional people. Somalia is progressing because a thief and an incompetent man who already gave up on the country from day one are fighting. While malister a proponent who supports the rape of mugdisho women by AU forces claim that the government is making progress. The irony. Acudubilah. 23 years and counting. Still at step one. Not the first and not the last. Let the delusion continue. Hey, you forgot to tell us how the Islamic Republic of Somaliland can help the heathens of Somalia.

Mintid, I support both men. But, even more, I support the bad decisions that got them to this point. I believe this type of political tussle is necessary. I think it's for the better of the nation if these disputes are settled early and have a decisive winner. Even the fist-fighting and chair-throwing going on today in the parliament is progress. Because it will have to be dealt with or it will disintegrate the new State. But more than anything---Men are boys with more toys. You gotta let them get it out of their system

If you're not an idealist, then you must be a life counselor because you love the word "should, should, should." Akh, politics is the world of CAN. Every man enters it with a checklist of things he "should" do and things he "wants" to do. But, if you have lived life to adulthood, you know that what you "should" and "want" to do quickly take a back seat to what can be done. And all those things that you're saying the president should have done. They don't need a president to solve. Those problems are waiting for YOU and I i.e. the Somali people. A reformer is nothing more than a politician with good luck and a lot of friends to write nice things about him after his death. True reformation is internal and for each individual. But, if you mean government reform, then there is nothing to reform. We just got started trying to become a modern State. Our problem is the people. And it will take time before they can start trusting each other again. P.S. The somali constitution is incomplete and unclear. It says the PM must consult with President. That consultation may mean many different things. It may mean that he needs to inform the president or seek his approval. That is a major difference. And in the absence of institutions to settle this dispute, this political struggle is the alternative. In other words, he who wins gains those powers that are being fought over right now PERMANENTLY. Think about it. If the PM is ousted for re-shuffling the president's men, it will never be attempted again by another PM if the Somali state lives on. This is not a futile fight my brother. This is for (most) of the marbles.

In related news, the no-confidence vote scheduled for early morning tomorrow. Mooge---where are your updates?

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> There are some battles you choose to fight. And sometimes you have to know when to not fight. Staring down the International Community over some petty Ministerial positions, when Somalia is in a fragile and weak state is not the best course of action. Either Culusow has the worst possible advisers, or he's unbelievably dim-witted. Dr. K, are you an idealist? First, calling this a petty fight is an understatement. This is a fight over the CONSTITUTION AND CONTROL of a country. If PM goes, President gets to have total control over what is written in the constitution. And, most likely, he gets to avoid a general election in 2016. If the PM defeats this "motion," he may get a favorable constitution and prep the country for 2016 general elections in a manner that favors his constituency. Also, each man is trying to strengthen his position i.e. President v. PM. This means a lot for the distribution of power among the major political players. Such, the fight is not just about petty stuff but about shaping the past, present, and future of political power in the country. Second, the truth of matter is---as long as Somalis are a "rotten society" with qabyaalad infested hearts and minds----the PM and the President will have different constituencies. And thus, different objectives than just "serving the Somali people." Even if the best of Somalis was elected tomorrow, the pressure from his clansmen and the mistrust of other clans will make him ineffective. But that is the test of any leader. We can only pray and hope that our leaders become steadfast and just people. But that does not mean that we should not expect them to be human--complete with an unquenchable thirst for control over their own destinies to the exclusion of all others.

Where did this money come from? Lacagtaan somaali miyaa laga qaaday? I doubt it. If you really want to complain--then PAY HIS SALARY. Until then, the only person who can make demands upon him is the "international community" who pays and protects him.

I can't believe this is taking up the President's time when we should be using our precious resources for far more urgent issues. Anyone who supports the President here has completely lost his mind, and it solidifies my desire for a decentralized Federal System in Somalia. We really need to give up on Mogadishu Dr. K; these men and their actions should not diminish your hope in the Somali nation. These men are engaged in a power battle and rightly so. It is natural for human beings to be tested with other human beings and their own vain desires. That's what we are witnessing; a struggle between humans each trying to impose their desires on another. But it is a good and necessary struggle. And its speedy and civil resolution can only be called progress.

<cite> @Odey said:</cite> we shall see how it goes. Article 90 (d) of the constitution regarding president powers: Appoint the Prime Minister, and to dissolve the Federal Government if it does not get the required vote of confidence from the House of the People of the Federal Parliament by a simple majority (50% +1); There are 275 members of parliament; 140 have signed the petition. That doesn't fare well for the PM, especially if he's not loaded.

<cite> @burahadeer said:</cite> puntlanders outmaneuvered the Hags,every prime minister is told to create problem which puts the president in difficult position.The donors can't accept if he fires every PM and would have no power if he don't.Basicaly what puntland wants is to either usurp the power thru the PM or else tell the world the president is messing up if he refuses to go along with their game which then will lead to cutting of int'l funds to Mogadishu and the return of mayhem to all down south. Very clever....reminds me of the jewish lobby. Damn!! Buuraha going for the jugular.

Also, this "culture" that you praise when talking about Asians---is what slavery took from African Americans---history, culture, family. And it continues to this day. But I think the best example of "the system" is your own Somalis. Go to Minnesota and look at all those Somali girls' faces. They want to be white so bad that they bleach their skin. And look at the prisons--filled with Somalis. And look at the abortion rate etc. etc. They have culture. They have history. They have religion. And according to them, they're not "black" but "Somali/African/Arab." But the system says: "WELCOME NEGROES. Watch BET, eat EBT, and be free."

Dr. K Nobody is denying that any progress starts with the self. But you cannot deny that there are intentional and incidental obstacles placed in the way of black progress. The most obvious one is the use of race as a way to divide the world. Naturally, the black man is the other in a White European dominated world. And the other will always be ugly, violent, dangerous etc. etc. Asians and even some Africans know this. Thus, they constantly point to the black man as a way to gain favor from the white race. In other words, the Asians KNOW they are safe until there are no more black folk. Nobody (except you) is saying that the black man is not self-reliant. We are saying that--statically speaking--a self-reliant black man will succeed less than a self-reliant white, asian, jew, etc. Why? Because the global system is designed that way. There are a million ways to illustrate this but let's use your own evidence against you. 1) Rap--a form of social resistance originating with black folk--became monetized by record industry (non-black owned). 2) It was then slowly degraded to "what people want to hear"--sex, drugs, murder. 3) Rap videos are most likely directed by some white guys and they include 10 half naked black girls. And the video is spread across the world. 4) Impressionable minds begin to think all black people are either thugs or whores. Then they refuse them jobs because subconsciously they are influenced by those media images. And the cycle begins. Please take some time to compare to media representations of the "Asian" race.

<cite> @Odey said:</cite> Unlike the rest of the world, A split parliament in Somalia means they stop being a parliament as they did in 2008. Unlikely. The presidency is at risk if that happens (not the man, the position). Much better the premier resign. At least, we already knew that was a precarious position. President in Addis "to discuss S.Sudan" with his overlords. Source: http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2014/Nov/wararka_maanta6-58952.htm

<cite> @Odey said:</cite> Here we go again!. I hear the exact number that signed this mooshin is 139 and that the other side is actively working towards a mooshin of their own against the President and have a number in the 128-130. The Parliament has split right down the middle. It's a blood mess! A split parliament? Yes! We have finally achieved democracy.

Other (unverified) reports coming out: 1) 140 xildibaan support the motion 2) Nick Kay squarely on the side of PM and some are saying the battle has become between President and Nick Kay 3) Money is being exchanged

Khamiis, November 06, 2014 (HOL) — Mooshin dhan ka ah ra’iisul wasaaraha Somalia, C/weli Sheekh Axmed ayaa galabta loo gudbiyay guddoonka baarlamaanka Soomaaliya, iyadoo tani ay sii xoojinayso muranka siyaasadeed ee u dhexeeya madaxda sare ee dalka. Warar lagu kalsoonaan ayaa sheegaya in mooshin ay saxiixeen xildhibaanno ka badan boqol, iyadoo uu ka guddoomiyay nidaamiyaha baarlamaanka kaas oo ku dhuftay shaabada qabashada mooshinkan. Sidoo kale, wararka ayaa intaas ku daraya in tiro wasiirro iyo xildhibaanno ah ay qayb ka yihiin xubnaha saxiixay mooshinka lagu doonayo in loogala laabto kalsoonida ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya, inkastoo ay jiraan kuwo ka soo horjeeda. Inkastoo aan la hayn weli tirada saxda ah oo ah xildhibaannada mooshinkan saxiixay, haddana waxaa mooshinkan baarlamanka u gudbiyay 55 mudane sida aanu kasoo xigannay xubno ka tirsan baarlamaanka Somalia oo diiday in magacyadooda la xuso. Mudanayaasha baarlamaanka ayaa maalmahan si weyn ugu kala qaybsanaa mooshin laga keeno ra’iisul wasaaraha Soomaaliya, iyadoo qaarkood ay ku goodiyeen inay iyaguna mooshin ka keenayaan guddoonka baarlamaanka haddii mooshin laga keeno ra’iisul wasaaraha Somalia, C/weli Sh. Axmed. Dhanka kale, mooshinkan ayaa kusoo beegmaya iyadoo uu sii xoogeysanayo khilaafka dhinaca fikirka ah ee u dhexeeya madaxweyne Xasan iyo ra’iisul wasaarihiisa, kaasoo beesha caalamku ay ku tilmaantay mid caqabad ku noqon kara horumarradii la gaaray. Sannadkii hore ayay ahayd markii xildhibaannada baarlamaanku Somalia ay kalsoonida kala laabteen ra’iisul wasaarihii hore, Cabdi Faarax Shirdoon oo isaga iyo madaxweyne Xasan Sheekh uu soo dhexgalay khliaaf xooggan oo saameyn ku yeeshay hay’adaha dowladda. Ra’iisul wasaaraha Somalia oo muddo sannad ku dhow haya xilka ra’iisul wasaarenimada Soomaaliya ayaan weli ka hadlin mooshinka galabta laga geeyay baarlamaanka, laakiinse dhawaan ayuu sheegay inuu ku rajo weyn yahay in khliaafka kala dhexeeya madaxweyne Xasan la dhameyn doono dhowrka maalmood ee soo socda. Source: http://hiiraan.com/news/2014/Nov/wararka_maanta6-58959.htm

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Saaxib, people like Khayr and Safferz just don't get it. Their lack of pride and their self-hatred is really irritating me.</strong 1) I never thought someone would mention these two as having anything in common. 2) Pride is a bad thing. 3) Also, self-reliance is only half the battle. It works if you're looking at it from one person's perspective or one race's. However, Saff and Khayr are militants for humanity--although with two very different ideologies. And for human progress, you must fight for the oppressed--meaning you must fight AGAINST an oppressor. That is not blaming the white man. That is demanding and expecting better from humanity. 4) As for black on black crime, if I put you in a cage, I bet it takes you less than 24 hours to start acting like an animal. Look at your own Somali, Muslim people. 5) Respect the people whose struggle allowed you to spout your ludicrousness. You're only on SOL because a black man is in prison fulfilling the quota that feeds the prison-industrial complex.

<cite> @Alpha Blondy said:</cite> this woman is an attention whore. Yes, but the real question is WHY?