Besides all else, one more question for Mujahid SNM and the SOL’s sprinter, Suldaanka, why is it acceptable and justifiable for a battle to rage in Dhahar and elsewhere in Sanag engulfing the locals whilst it is massacre when it happens in Mogadishu? Could some one explain that, please like I am 6 years old? Again, this is what I am talking about? How did they think they could pull it off with so little, yet so far off? Wasiirka Gaashaandhigga ee xilka laga qaaday, mudane Waqaf ayaa isagu u sheegay weriye ka tirsan Telefishanka Madaxa bannaan ee Hargeysa Tv oo la socda weftiga in sababta ciidanka dib loogu soo celiyey ay tahay khatar ka soo wejihi karaysey roobabka gu'ga ee dalka ka curtay oo laga baqayo inay jaraan waddooyinka rafka ah ee isku xidha Dhahar iyo Ceerigaabo, masaafada fog ee u dhexaysa Ceerigaabo iyo Dhahar oo iyana aan suuragal ka dhigayn in ciidanku degdeg u helo saadka iyo saannada uu u baahan yahay, iyada oo degmada Dhahar ay u jirto Ceerigaabo in ka badan 200 km oo wadadeeduna ay tahay mid raf ah, halka ciidanka Puntland taliskooda Boosaaso uu u jiro wax ka yar 30 km. http://somaliland.org/ns.asp?ID=07041512 tata...

O’ come on Suldaanka, do not be a sore dropout mate. Stay in the game, and by all means, entertain the crowd. You are forgetting one thing though -- you are speaking to the sons of the region, and not some castaway from Gabiley who has to be guided through the rough, mountainous terrain of Sanag. That being said, now be a good chap, and tell me how you thought you could pull if off strategically? And one more thing, beware Cadhayn & Gorayocawl are brewing good old ‘qaxwa’ ala Somali in close proximity to Erigabo. Tata…

O’ crap, even our resident landers are fleeing the scene in droves under the false pretence of being aghast of [what was the word they used] "retreat". How I love the patriotic moral fibre of our beloved Mujahidin! In all fairness though, how did they think they could pull it off - so far off and away from the affable habitat with neither ‘baad’ or ‘saad’ in close proximity. Strategically thinking, theirs would have been suicidal, not that our brethrens in Northwest are not so familiar with such ‘ambad’ manoeuvring. You must be thanking Riyaale instead of the constant reproach for pulling you off the edges of the devil’s chasm and hellish void. Not that they would appreciate it now, but come tomorrow they shall be singing a different tune. Tata...

How about this --- since Somaliland fancies itself a separate country, thusly wanting nothing to do with Somalia, we Somalis elsewhere respect that and let you be. And in return, since Sool, Sanag & Cayn see their future with the rest of Somali wanting nothing to do with Somaliland, you folks in Hargeisa get that in your head and stay well clear of the SSC. Tata…

Me, I thought this was the classic quote! "It is the norm. Even inside Hargeisa."

Waar nimankiina reer Bari, qolyahan reer Hargeysa ma taqaanaane, nimanku wax ka tookh, baalxoofto iyo cagajuglayn badan! Kaba darane, nimaku haadda ma hubsadaan. Oo haddii ay Xaafuun iyo xeebaha gaadhaan, armaabay badda ku daataan, oo ay moodaan ban fardaha lagu jarabaro, oo midab kale leh! This line is my favourite... Ma Boosaasad ka timi ma Boodhkay kugu liqeen...

WARBIXINTA DHABTA AH EE :-dagaalada Magaalada Dhahar Dhahar:- Wararkii ugu danbeeyey ee ka socday magaalada Dhahar ee Gobolka Sanaag ayaa wali ka socda magaalada Galbeedkeeda waxaana dagaalka la xaqiijiyey inuu yahay mid culus oo hubka noocayadiisa kala duwan la isu adeegsadey iyadoo aan waxba la isula kala harin. Wararka oo aanu dib u hubsanay ayaa waxay yihiin in ciidamada Somaliland la isugu geeyey Galbeedka Magaalada, dagaalkuna waxa uu markii hore ka bilowday bariga iyo galbeedka magaalada. Ciidanka Somaliland ayaa dhinaca Bariga magaalada looga itaal roonaadey waxaana markii danbe dib loogu soo riixey Galbeedka Magaalada. Warka dhabta ah ayaa waxa weeye in Dhinaca Somaliland ilaa iyo hada inta la ogyahay dhaawacoodu yihiin 3 askari oo dhaawac lagu qabtey, inta ka dhimatey aan la garaneyn. Wararka sheegaya in 7 gaari laga gubey ama laga qabtey ayaa noqdey kuwo aan wax ka jirin oo aan la garaneyn khasaaraha dhabta ah ee ka jira dhinaca Somaliland hase ahaatee waxaa jira in baabuur wax laga gaarsiiyey. Dhinaca Puntland ayaa waxaa noo suura gashey inaanu hubsano sidaa awgeed wax dhimasho iyo dhaawac ilaa iyo hada ma jiraan, waxayse saraakiisha ciidanka si hoose noogu sheegeen iney jirto in hal gaari wax laga yeelay. DAGAALKU SIDA UU KU BILOWDAY. Dagaalka ayaa waxa uu markii hore ka bilowday dhinaca Galbeed ee Magaalada iyadoo ay dhinacaasi kasoo weerareen ciidamda Daraawiishta oo isugu jira kuwa deegaanka iyo kawa ka yimi Magaalada Gaalkacayo. Markii ay dhinacaas ka bilaabatey ayaa waxaa isla markiiba ay dhinaca Bari ay iyaduna rasaas xoogan ka bilaabatey, waxayna markii danbe laga adkaadey ciidankii joogey dhinaca Bari ee Magaalada oo lasoo baacsadey. Kadib waxaa dhacday in magaalada Masuuliyiintii Somaliland ee joogey ay ka bexeen oo isaga carareen, lamana garanayo goobta ay hada ku sugan yihiin. Goor aanu la xiriirney Magaalada Xingalool ayaa waxaa naloo sheegey in baabuur badan oo carar ahi ay dhaafeen magaalada, inkastoo warkaas aan la xaqiijin karin. UGU DANBEYN. Ciidamada Somaliland oo kasoo duuley deegaano aad uga fog ayaa cabsi weyn ka qaba in jidku ka xirmo iyadoo al arkayey dibu ugurasho joogto ah, mana jiraan wax madax banaan oo noo xaqiijin kara warkaas. Waxaa hubaal ah in dadka deegaanku aysan raali ka ahayn in magaalada Dhahar dagaal noocan oo kale uu ka dhoco. Hada waxaa wararkuu ugu danbeeyey ee dhabta ah waxay noo sheegeen in dagaalkii uu yara qaboobey, habeena ay noqotey, waxayna warar aanu ka helnay dhinaca Puntland ay noo sheegeen in ay dagaalka sii wadayaan ilaa inta laga gaarayo Magaalada Ceerigaabo ee Xarunta Gobolka Sanaag. LaasqorayNET. Dhahar

Kat-induced bravado will not grant the misguided ‘Landers’ their secession dreamboat; a scheme that is conceived for the sole purpose of forging a territory where clan hegemony holds sway. Unbeknownst to them, though, theirs is an idea, which its time has long since passed. Today in Somalia, the veritable lesson taught by the civil war is this: no clan can dominate another. So the sooner they understand this fact the better for all Somalis. For that is when the society as a whole will shift gears and mobilize its resources (human, knowledge base and natural) to build the nation for the benefit of all in an environment of justice and fraternity. ........ If history is any guide, the kat-crazed political elite of “Somaliland”—ever so reliant as they are on the handouts of their foreign enablers, whose aim is nothing more than to wreck Somalia, once and for all—will be probably whistling past the graveyard before they come to their senses and stop being such a destructive force in society. I hope I am wrong on this. But, as the saying goes, time will tell! ......... Here, it is important to make an important distinction between the decent Somali citizens living throughout the Northwestern region and their self-seeking politicians. The people have the same hopes and aspirations as their fellow Somalis in other parts of the country. They want peace and a chance to rebuild their communities without rampant corruption and the study diet fear-mongering that is dished out to them by their cunning politicians. Hence the tragedy of a community that is held hostage to the whims of a group of craven political hacks hell-bent on a campaign of self-aggrandizement. Read along ...

Mansa - ari boowe waa fikir bad qaba, ee mar haddii Maakhir kuulaystay, reer Jiidali (Sool & Cayn) maxaa laga yeeli? Botorintu ficil xun ma ahee, bal day? In badan ayaa sugayey in Maakhir si dhab ah u botoriyo! Maakhir - boowe taasi 'excuse' kuu noqon maysee, khariidad kale, oo aan ahayn tan xalligan, ee dhagaraysan, ee reer 'Bush House' xardho!

Gavin – both administrations employ the former Somali republic’s doctrine at the judiciary level which was a nice blend of Shari’a law tossed in with a pinch of ‘Xeer’ which in itself, mid you, is derived from the Shari’a law, only modified to suit customary communal caprices. ansaar17 – for the sake of this discussion, let us assume I were a Muslim, shall we? MMA – Somalia is the perfect case study for students of comparative politics, societal evolution, history and modern nation state edifice. Tata…

Xiinow - Bayd ku dhici doonaa ayaa muftigii laga hayaa xilli ay fallaadhu ku godnayd, xaajana ay dhabaqday. Waxaa uu yidhi: Nimankii ilmada iga qubee, oohin iga keenay Nimankaan ku alaladay markaan, uunka wada jiifay Nimankii ajuurada cunee, iibkii ii bixiyey Nimankii intaas nagu falaan, na asaraareynin Waxba yey addoomaha Ilaah, nooga aargudine Waxba yaan aduun layga siin, ilintidaydiiye Utuntayda waa heli haddaan, iilka lay dhigine Araraha intaan maranhayey, igu arkaayane Maruun baan sidii aar libaax, oodda soo jebinne Ashtakooda'aa iyo warqado, ku andacodaaba Mar haddaan shareecadu aqoon, nimanka xxxx Ashahaadadoodiyo ma rabo, ina wallayntooda Mar haddaan wadaad aayad diin, ila ekeynaynin Amaan aniga lay oran karayn, tanu ahaan mayso Allow yaa af lama daaliyee, iga asluubeysta Bal adba?

Gavin – do not be hoodwinked by the constant hostile and far-fetched wishful desires of the Fish and Chips generation stranded in the cold in North America and Western Europe. Majority of Somalis in Somalia [sic], and this is by extension a generalised estimate on my part would prefer a Federal system of governance very close to that of the US which extends autonomy to the district level: the model from which the current TFG has been moulded with its warps and all. Panacea not, but wholly not egregious! From the onset, war-weary Somalis in Mogadishu and its environs embraced the ICU purely for the purported ideals and presumed virtues possible Islamic governance would encompass and only celebrated in the good book – the Qur’an. With all the promises and the supposed therapeutic alleviations that Islamic governance would bring along evaporated shortly after the rise of the ICU, for the general public rapidly came to the realisation the ICU leadership could hardly meet what a modern nation state would require with signs of their shortcomings surfacing a couple of months of their being on the throne. The case was not that different with the Taliban or elsewhere. However, the experience was slightly different elsewhere in the country, and a classic example of that would be Puntland and Somaliland both of which institutionalized a sort of federal model of governance at different levels and with different results, and whilst the judiciary circuits in both administrations adhere to some form of Islamic Shari’a, neither desires to effect the strict format of the Shari’a law, for they could hardly deliver on such premise albeit the desired object to Sparta’s gates was just that. At will, both administrations embarked on a model of governance which was deemed suitable to their way of life. The primary reason that Islamic governance would fit not Somalia, or any other Muslim nation at the moment including Saudi Arabia, is purely due to the fact that Somalis alike their counterparts elsewhere in the Muslim world lack a principal ingredient required in implementing Islamic Shari’a as the core mechanism of holistic governance in all aspects of modern nation state - human capital. Attempts to effect the said had been made elsewhere, and unfortunately failed miserably with the results being exploitation of Shari’a law to the extent of degrading it to a shameful glimpse of itself, what it is meant to be, or designed to perform, thusly giving it a bad name. It is the fantasy of idealism of what an Islamic state would bring along that which appeals to most people herein and elsewhere, however their knowledge of Islam in itself as a way of life is so dismal it lends itself to caricature ignorance, if not the unfortunate state of their being born into it. Query along should your heart desires; not only astonished shall you arise, but despair shall descend at once! Ask about Islam, you shall find them devouring Wikipedia as their sole source of reference (O’ dear!). Suggest for some to live in any Muslim country, flooded you shall be with complaints, if not chorus of disapproval of their being rigid and crude. I shall leave there, Tata…

Allaha sahlo tu kale meesha kuma haynee? Xaajase waxaa qudhmiyey gibinada Tola'ayeeeey gelinka horena ku meera, gelinka dambe Muslimeey ku dikriya ee dhan loo raaco aan garanayn!

Waa fikir saliim ah, ee bartaa ka sii botoriya idinna! Beware tho' the wolf in the sheep's cloth! Maakhir - waa adiga dhul Maakhir meegaaraye, maxaad ku hindistay in aad Mudug ka reebto Puntland inteeda kale? Mise waaba kaa dhab oo waa ay kula simbiriirixatay oo warba uma haysid in khariidadda kaa daba babanaysaa ay Nugaal uun ku eg tahay? Mise Eyl wixii Koonfur ka xigaa waa carra qalo? Oo dee dhankaa iyo carro Jiidali iyana ha laga war hayo!

Ari waa Xiin oo weli jidbaysan, oo malaha aayadi ku margatay--- waase cadadi ee ceebtiis ma aha! Xiinow - xaal waa xagee? Wadankii ma xorayseen weli?

Indha adaygeedaan ayaa iga yaabiyey inanta, oo iga walle in aanay libiqsanaynba --- ka joogtaas uun baa lagu hayaa, iyana waaba ay sii xamaysan tahay, sidii yoo geenyo la heenseeyey. Oo dee malaha dhankaa iyo Xamar Cadde hablaheenna Somaliyeed maba libiqsadaan ayaan is idhi!

Taako - Ari boowe, gibinta caqaar ayaa ku kala go'day, walina marqaankii ma aanay gaadhine maad naga dayso?

Hang on a minute. That cannot be, can it mate? Ghedi is invading Puntland. He is not from Puntland, thusly under no circumstance should he be received there. I call upon the locals to behead the invading aliens, drug their scorched corpses through the streets, and whilst at it pick at it ala feral vultures. Allahu Akbar…fight the infidels! Kill the invading ‘gaalo’! Tola’ayeeeey, yaa Somali aheey. Tata…

Sakhar - This whole exercise is illicit, if not illegitimate, and can only be classified as bone fide election should it meets delineated mitigating prerequisites predefined and observed by the only democracy in the whole of Africa --- Somaliland. So, captain, spare us the hulala, all right? Tata…

O’ dear and a big one at that. Desperate times indeed force some to seek desperate measures in soothing the deep-seated guilty and nefarious ignominy. That is mostly the case here with the loony let. Sakhar – why o’ why do you have to shame these goons in such a callous way? Have you no mercy dear chap? ****************** Is it ingenuity, idiocy or despondency that drives these groups to doctor the 6 year-old audio tape wanting to pass it on as fresh evidence for the Guriceel cause? Ingenious, I would go as far to say for it serves two purposes rather well in the eyes of the loony lot. Rather dim-witted of them though if one was to think of it, for the quality of job is poorly even for the amateur to spot the knots. And rather desperate above all, for this is their final card to rally the clan card albeit it has thus far fallen on deaf ears with the Mogadishu natives through Shabelle to Hiraan ignoring the bellows for mere ‘calaacal’ by the scrap metal and coal merchants to borrow a phrase from Duke’s. Generale – do not be taken back by the sadden change of heart by the orphans of Hargeisa. Theirs is not one of love, rather one of trepidation and stomach-crunching booty shake of what is to become of the beloved Shankaroon. Not only are they not liking the turn of events in Somalia, but they have been suffering from chorea for a good while. Have you not noticed how xenophobic they have turned in just a few days? Wait till the dust settles in Mogadishu and you shall observe them seeking audience with the devil they speak of in droves. Tata… [ April 03, 2007, 12:54 AM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

Let us have it, you and I, shall we? Your subject, then let us define the terms, and make a pick for whichever language you fancy. I shall indulge you, for in such a jolly mood I am today! Tata...

Paragon - better yet, why not open a whole thread just for the two of us. Pick any subject under the sun and let us define the terms of the discussion. Whichever way you lance it, I shall indulge you up cum down. Sakhar - I am only indulging the village 'qawsaar', no more. Tata...

What are you pleading with me now *********** [ March 31, 2007, 05:37 PM: Message edited by: Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar ]

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