Jacpher;974396 wrote: Sue all you want but good luck collecting a penny of it. We've taken land as compensation hahahah. The servitude of d block and the downfall of the rest. What's 30 year ay good luck with the next hundred

Jacaylbaro;974418 wrote: The same reason that the Syrian regime is using chemical weapons against the civilians ... eh ?? SMH Indeed.

Tillamook;974414 wrote: lol...you've just agreed with our statements. The reason duriyada keep to themselves is precisely because of the aforementioned laangaabnimo and their abject irrelevance in Somali political affairs... It's because they are a different country and the constitution of the republic of SOMALILAND states it is imperative to have good relations wih naibours and not interfer in their domestic affairs Einstien. Keep hiding behind Kenyan tanks all Somalis know who the real langab are. Your reverse psychology won't work on me. You should thank god almighty that he duriyada not only have the balls to do what they said but implement it as well. Thank your maker that they are no longer interested its precisely because of this that you have garowe and bosaso left do you think had it been part of SOMALILAND territory that we would be without it today hahah. Hag and duriyada have no animosity between themselves: if duriyada wanted the presidency, prime minister and half the so called parliament the entire somali speaking people's would pray salatul shukri and we all know it hahaha. But Somalia is gone in my view. It's dominion of hag now and watch it will happen so get comfortable in your wasteland because the days of welfare checks is gone. That died with Abo siad. No jubaland no mugdisho Saxib Ethier you have bosaso and garowe call it sadaqa from duriyada hahahaha

xiinfaniin;974382 wrote: GAROODI, To many of us you represent the pulse of SNM (an important groupings represented by the secessionist madness that is Hargeysa) , but you are overdoing it really, almost losing your marbles (if you have any to begin with). Relax boowe; the Jubbaland political marvel is a notch higher than your 21-year status of political stagnation and dashed hopes of recognition. I just stated the reality that's all. Can you disapprove what I wrote. This is the somali Cold War. It's not about federalism it's still about the same pre 1991 d block bu))sh*t for hegemony. Like I said puntland is irrelevant because if you remove the name, bravado and baxbax you have 2.5 regions of none sense. Hassan sheick is asking for what any president would ask for full access to his fellow countrymen. In today's reality without taxation governance won't work. Hand over the Kenyan protected airport and port and hand them over to the government if you are genuine about Somalia and governance and stop hiding behind foreign powers. Somalia can only have one president and centralised governance with local city government admins is the only solution. In parliament federalism would lose if voted on. If you are Somalia then be Somalia if not have the ba))s to declare it.you will however not be allowed to have your cake and eat iras well

xiinfaniin;974338 wrote: Ina Uurbeyte is Khatumo eh? :D At times our Norther brothers poor propaganda methods is astonishing Runs around claiming kismayo and as soon as you mention the hag boogy man he runs for cover. Xin you can learn a thing or two about how SOMALILAND unites its people...

http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2013/Aug/wararka_maanta21-23059.htm The E.U. Today...

Somalia;974345 wrote: It's subliminal: as soon as Somalia posts anything similar it means the man is in tears. Like I said Somalia nothing Will come of it .

LANDER;974363 wrote: ^If Dahir Riiyale oversaw your imprisonment from date X to Y and was responsible for tying your testicles up with metal objects and you can no longer father children today, than by all means bring a case forth against him I'm sure you will receive alot of support. But that is highly unlikely isn't? You have an issue with War criminals being brought to justice, this Magan character is likely your tribal 'uncle' and your objecting for that reason. That is more likely isn't? Bingo....

Xin, Use logic: you have to decide between d block interests or Somalia simple. Many men who choose d block interests there descendents are suffering from the choice today. The reality is puntland was created in 1998 to save what was left of d block interests in Somalia. It's used the SOMALILAND model and injected clan into it. Years later it remains 2.5 regions while SOMALILAND has taken almost full control of British SOMALILAND. Jubaland is not genuine. It is a territory that is mixed and not entirely d block so when you maskerade as "we have held a conference" and alter the puntland flag and still pretend that it has nothing to do wih d block self interest then we know your not entirely telling the whole truth. Jubaland is being attempted as a strategy to give d block two federal states so that can be used against hag to gain more political leverage. Hag is a lot smarter then before they won't fall for that. I don't see Somalia being a federal state it's to small. SOMALILAND is gone. Majority Somalis are happy with centralised state. Jubaland none sense will be shut down as soon as Kenya leaves or the somali government sends in hag.

Mafia;974365 wrote: Sad indeed, but I honestly think that from Jubbaland standpoint, this might be actually a good outcome for the following two reasons: 1) J/L convinced the international community that Xamar isn't serious about federalism. This will allow them to build out their own break-away government similar to SL and PL where they can implement their own vision without the pressure from international community to work with the Federal government. I'm already being fed that J/L is planning to sever ties with the federal governmental very soon, much to the elation of PL. 2) This will lead the current Mogadishu admin to fail, paving the way for a more competent leader to emerge. Somali people win because they will have a leader in place, which we don't have now. J/L wins because by then they will have a greater leverage in somali politics, with the international backing and more mature government structure. So, if you support J/L initiative, this fall out might actually help them a great deal. Remember Britain and Qatar were the backbone of Hassan Sheekh Mohamud, and they are both conspiring against him now. He lost the international backing that he had and he never had enough local support. Politically, he is a dead man walking now This is all I heard... This is not about federalism: this is the difference between governance and none at all I.e continued chaos. Hassan shieck is your president: you all say you are Somalians who hail from Somalia. You all have the same flag and took part in the same process. Your president whom you elected says that in order for his government to work he needs revenue to pay the army, police, government institutions etc to return Somalia to normality. His government that you elected and subscribe to requests sovereign control over all airports and ports. Which is the norm in any country. Instead you support th blind ambition of a hungry bearded former Alshabab turned kenyan towel boy who hid behind a Kenyan tank into kismayo. The logic of d block is unbelievable. The only reason why you are against Hassan sheick is because he is hag had it been the other way round you would have agreed. Listen to your president.

Somalia;974356 wrote: But why is it bad news, why are they so invested in the Battle for Jubboyinka? It's so surreal. Ok, now it makes sense. :cool: Tilamock your lot only think you have relevance however in reality other then talk and bravado nothing substantial. Hag have the capital, the presidency and the majority population in south Somalia. Duriyada have the entire north they are insignificant to Somalia politics because they choose to unlike your lot who inhabit the few desert wastelands between the monoliths. Other then bravado and talk I assure your lot mean little to Somalias situation. You have struggled to stop SOMALILAND and with all your so called influence have managed to achieve nothing substantial in south Somalia.

Hassan ain't stu@id if he signs to this jubaland none sense hag and the rest will have his neck. Why isolate your power base for an Ethiopian stooge who couldn't liberate a village without Kenyan backing. Hell will freeze over before Hassan shieck signs to this none sense. We are waiting for the communique or terms agreed then we will see. The last d block card at play here hahah.

Kn: Waa fursaddii ugu dambeysey oo miis dushiis lagu dhamayn lahaa muranka siyaasadda dowladda Federaalka iyo Jubbaland, waxayne u egtahay in la marayo marxalad aysan sahlanayn in laga gudbo. Labada dhinac waxbo uma kala qarsana, dhinac kasta waxa uu si buuxda oga dharagsanyahay waxa uu dhinaca kale qabo oo aragti ah, shuruudo ah iyo damaaci siyaasadeedba. Dhexdhexaadiyeyaasha oo iyagu laftoodu ah dowladdo daris ah oo danahooda gaarka ah doonaya in ay heshiiska ka dhex arkaan, ayaa iyagu ku qasban in ay suul iyo faro ku taagtaagsanadaan, iyaga oo dhinac illaalinaya xiriirka dublamaasiyadeed ee ugubka ah ee dowladda caalamku taageerey ee aanan la saadaalin karin meesha ay gaari karto mustaqbalka dhow, iyo waliba illaalinta danahooda gaarka ah iyo waliba iyaga oo aanan dooneynin in ay ka xanaajiyaan ologyadooda siyaasadeed ee Jubbaland. Dowladda waxa ay sheegtey in aysan dooneynin in ay gabi ahaanba ka talaabsato natiijaddii kasoo baxday shirweynihii Kismaayo ka dhacay, balse “caano daatay dabadood baa la qabtaaye” waxay dowladdu dooneysaa in ay kaalin mug ah ku yeelato talaabo kasta oo la qaadayo wixii hadda ka dambeeya. Ma dooneyso wax loogu yeero “maamul goboleedka Jubbaland”, taasi badalkeeda waxay dooneysaa “Maamulka Jubbooyinka iyo Gedo”, kaasi oo jiraya muddo cayiman oo KMG ah. Waana qodobkaasi kan ergada Jubbaland ay si cad u diideen, islamarkaasina Ethiopia oo ah dhexdhexaadiyaha shirka ay ka dabqaadayso. Sida ay KismaayoNews fahamsantahay, Ethiopia waxa ay u sheegtey ergada Jubbaland in aysan fili doonin in wax kasta ay u dhacaan sida ay doonayaan, kuna qasbanyihiin in ay tanaasulaad sameeyaan. Dhanka dowladda waxaa si cad loogu sheegey in uusan fuli karin dhamaan heshiisyadii IGAD iyo wadamada ciidamada ka joogaan dalka ee Jubbooyinka ku saabsan, iyada oo aanan waxbo u ogolaanin maamulka Kismaayo. Wali shirka waa uu socdaa, waxaana la rajaynayaa in lasoo saari doono war saxaafadeed aad looga taxadaray ereybixintiisa, islamarkaasina wax uun lagu heshiiyo. Wixii kasoo kordha dib ayaan kasoo tabin doonnaa haddii alle idmo KismaayoNews.com

The real langab are you d block folk who have been defeated at every turn hiding in your desert wastelands. SNM folk live proudly under their flag instead of hiding behind kikuyu and amisom tanks. In regards to the kismayo debacle we can all sense it. This is not what it seems. I don't see terms that have been agreed to do you? Show me the terms that's have been agreed to puntlandi does not count. Typical xin.

xiinfaniin;974335 wrote: Today , pictures, not mere sentiments, speak louder than Carafaat's words. Where is our pseudo analyst Mintid Farayar ? I find it hard to believe that: madobe will surrender the airport and port and I find it hard to believe that Hassan shieck will accept madobe so easily. Ironically the only news sources reporting this so called breakthrough are pirate sources. Do you actually believe jubaland will get approved by parliament. I also find it hard to believe that Hassan would do a 360 degree turn on gedo considering the clan chiefs of gedo don't want to be part of the swihili kismayo admin. I smell a rat. Lets see what hag sources say this sounds like the typical d block bu((sh@t. Not Hassan shiecks style.

Proves nothing like I said nothing will come of it at all...and I think I have seen those pictures before.

This thread is started to further understand the core issues of what really happened. They say where there is smoke your bound to find fire. We all know what happened in terms of the fire I.e the collapes of a dictatorship and the end of the Somaliland Somalia union. But what about the smoke. How did it all start. First hand accounts and video evidence. What really happened. Part One: One of the founding members of UFO talk about how it all started: (in this section it becomes evident how much the dictatorship feared normal people haha) While the above was in prison solitary confinement: the below Ahmed mire commander of the eastern front gives a first hand account of what happened...

Ahmed who??? The man is in addis to commemorate the death of melez zenawi who was a former president of Ethiopia this is just good naibourly protocol and brief respite from the chaos of mugdisho to sip on some Ethiopian boon and watch some Ethiopian neck dancing. Madobe is there to meet himself clearly the president hasn't said anything. Me thinks your trying to make yourself relevent. As for jubaland and puntland trying to restore somali pride. Saxib somali people are where they are today because of your people simple. So don't come here saying your trying to restore Somalia pride while you parade an Kenyan stooge who is maintained in kismayo on the back of Kenyans calling him president side by side with the president you yourself choose. The irony what pride are you restoring to Somalia ??

xiinfaniin;974226 wrote: Wadaniyada Gooni waa taan kor ku sheegay : Waxay Kenya dirireen markii Barre Hiiraale la jabshay Mar labaad kaalay oo wax daba la qabsado leh qor boowe Addis Ababa (Mareeg.com)- a high profile government delegation led by the president of the federal republic of Somalia arrived in Addis Ababa last night where they were received and welcomed by Ethiopian officials on arrival. The President is set to participate in a ceremony to mark a 1 year anniversary since the death of former Ethiopian Prime Minister Melez Zenawi. President Hassan also met his counterpart Prime Minister Hailemariam last night where they discus on ways to empower the Somali government and establish government rule on regional states that exist in the country. Another planned meeting addressing the deadlock situation of Jubaland will also take place in Addis Ababa between the government delegation and representatives of Ahmed Madobe who is the leader of the Raskamboni militia. United Nations special representative for Somalia Mr. Nicholas Kay is also in Addis Ababa to take part in the planned meetings to break the political deadlock in the Juba regions. The meeting to resolve the political crisis has been organized by IGAD.

xiinfaniin;974203 wrote: GARODI, Somalis in Puntland with the exception of those in IDPs do not need food. They need shools, hospitals, infrastructure i.e. roads, airports, harbors and governance enhancing, capacity building support . There are business folks who support their families by importing bariis, digir and baasto. This shipment was not for IDP camps ; it was destined fishing communities of Isku-shuban, and the camel and cattle herders of Goldogob and Taleex. I don't know whether we went to the same bosaso xin, I've been there before and all I can say is if those people don't need food Walahi I don't know who needs it. Our fellow countrymen in taleex and eastern sool will not be deprived of any aid destined for them. The image you have and what I saw are totally contradictory xin typical bias at work yet again.

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From loya cado to las canod Somalilanders United.

http://boramanews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2066&catid=34&Itemid=53 The SOMALILAND family is coming together

Good old dhanan news. The desperation for news has brought xin to dhanan news. Like I said before xin your beating a dead horse. I promise you there will be no such thing as jubaland. No one in the history of mankind has been able to keep land using foreign forces indefinitely. Keep beating and hoping for a miracle. Madobe is a marked man and Kenya can not indefinitely ignore the sovereignty of Somalia Italiana.