Is anyone in mugdisho? What's going on? I'm reading the below: any truth to this Moqadisho (BurcoOnline) 05.08.2013 Qaar kamid Xildhibaanadda Baarlamanka Soomaaliya o warbaahinta la hadlayey ayaa waxaa ay sheegeen in xukuumadda Soomaaliya ay ku fashilantey wax ka qabashada Amaanka Magaaladda Muqdisho Xildhibaan Maxamed Iidle Geedi oo ka tirsan Gudiga Maaliyadda Baarlamanka Soomaaliya ayaa waxaa uu sheegey in Xukuumadda Soomaaliya ay ku fashilantey waxyaabihii loo igmadey islmarkaana sheegey in Xaqiijinka Amaanka Muqdisho lugu sugikarin dad la xir xiro iyowax lamid ah kuna baaqey in la furo Wadooyinka Magaaladda Muqdisho. sidoo Xildhibaan Jaamac Axmed Maxamuud oo kamid ahaa xildhibaanadii kulanka maanta qabtey ayaa dhankiisa waxaa uu sheegey in xukuumadda kaligeed aaney wabaxba ka qaban Karin Amaanka isla markaana shacabka ugu baaqey in ay ka qeyb qaataan wax ka qabashada Amaanka Caasimadda Muqdisho ayna la sheqeyaan laamaha Amanka Dowladda sidii loo xaqiijin lahaa Amaanka Muqdisho ee u muuqda mid gacanta ka sii baxaya

^^^ express: pizza express more like. When you need the Kenyans to keep you in control that's not an express that's called stalemate. You ain't going anywhere. You are here today because of Kenya gone tomorrow don't embarrass yourself in front of the people hiding behind Kenyan tanks. You could have never taken kismayo without them and hold it today because of them. That's called treason. What's with d block and using foreign powers against Somalis ??? Acudibilah Isla yaba. You want something be a man and get it yourself

Get the book at your nearest library. It's a well known book and its published it can also be accessed online. Hahahhaha.... In Denial.

^^^^ the sorry state of affairs of the Pirates these days. Keep clutching straws haha. Firstly the guy is not there. Secondly what does this have to so with Somalian flag?? No Somalian flag in somaliland.

War xaajj: while hassan tarabi was uttering those words: Dr osmans so called kings were: http://beenaywaarun.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/amiina-herself-broke-spell-by.html?m=1

^^^ if you say so osman...hahaha. Go open up a thread and debate yourself: it's easy to see why you guys have been defeated and landless since the dawn of time with specimens like yourself haha.

Lol @ adeer macaane. Bari is a desert wasteland you have to be blind not to see that. Other then Bari and nugaal and parts of mudug what does your state control? Nothing. It's no longer in eat Sanag or east sool. As for being self suffient as far as I am aware they still live off fish in Bari never heard of vegetables since they ran from mugdisho

^^^ isn't it embarrassing that those people you call a minority control 3 times the landmass then your desert wasteland is and remain undefeated. Your largest city is bosaso which has a population of 300,000 that's the same size as boroma. Burco is 500-600 thousand. Hargaisa at 1.5 million you don't have to be a rocket scientist hahaha. Everyone knows how big your 2 state barren wasteland is.

^^^^ osman your a funny guy walaahi. Jet fighters hahah.

^^^ if you say so Osman haha

Dr_Osman;972035 wrote: What a joke, there is no history there. Rag wada qaawanayeen bay ahayeen oo jaadkooda cunayo. Who you kidding sxb. There is no sultantate there or any known boqortoyo that has been mentioned in the history of the north. Infact the only known boqortoyo of somaliya was yours truly the doctor and history attests to it. Sure theyre may be ppl who claim to be boqor today from other clans but they have no historical justification for it and just made it up to copy other clans who do have a historical justification and lineage. Lets put it simply boqortoyo soo jireen ah meesha kama jirin waqoyiga iyo hadu jiray bal ii tus document. Garoodi how does it feel abaha iyo awoowaha inay ahayeen dad aan tarikh laheen? must hurt don't it, must kill to know your ancestors were no different to xoolaha daaqayo Osman it's nice to see you've been reading my posts considering you just reiterated what i said about your lot in the forum below we're I proved the weakness of your lots argument and that in fact not only do you not have any history but forged and faked the history of others. Read below: http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/72360-Kacaan-distortion-of-Somali-history-exposed-who-were-the-Dervishes?highlight=Dervish Not to mention many other things which can not be said during ramadan and of all Somalis no one has had more land taken from them so quickly and easily. Why do you think you live in a barren wasteland it's not out of choice believe me. Why do you live under Ethiopian colonials not choice believe me. Even with Africa's largest army we destroyed you and even today you continue to remain at the feet of the mighty landers

Somalinimo, Islamnimo ayanu rabna. Dervish banu nahay....

Heard the pirate head saying bacaaaaaaac the other day. "Somaliland is creating conflict in the region. Somaliland cannot give land to foreign companies to explore oil when the land does not belong to Somaliland," he said or in other words "we found water in our 2 state region so pretty please don't take out petrol because we would continue to lose" lool. Pirates are lucky to have two states left if they move the somaliland flag will fly over Garowe and bosaso. Both are 20 odd miles away from the somaliland border. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

Somalilandsun - Genel Energy reported progress on a number of fronts yesterday, with a "substantial" rise in oil output expected next year. Genel, run by former BP chief executive Tony Hayward, is the largest oil producer in the Kurdish semi-autonomous region of Iraq. It also has exploration acreage in Morocco, Malta and Somaliland, with drilling expected to start in the final quarter of this year. The interim figures were in line with City expectations. Revenues in the six months to June rose 30pc to $160.6m (£106m) and pre-tax profit soared to $109.1m from $22.3m. However, the profit figure was flattered by a $54.5m one-off accounting credit after changes in the way depreciation was measured. When this is stripped out, profits rose 148pc. The group still has a net cash position of $867m and Julian Metherell, finance director, raised the possibility of a dividend next year. The Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) has been in dispute with Iraq over revenue sharing on oil produced in the region. Genel has been trucking oil out to Turkey because the Iraqi central government has banned exports through a Baghdad-owned pipeline. However, a pipeline built by the KRG is now just 15km from the Turkish border. Genel is likely to be granted export capacity though the pipeline by the KRG and this will allow for the efficient export of oil. Oil production is expected to rise to between 45,000 barrels and 55,000 barrels of oil equivalent a day for the full year from 44,500 barrels in 2012. The company says this will generate revenue of between $300m and $400m. Genel has had substantial exploration success this year and has added about 500m barrels of contingent resources. There is also a potential gas deal between Turkey and the KRG which would boost Genel following significant gas discoveries in the first half. Yesterday Genel raised its estimates for its gas reserves at the 100pc-owned Miran and 44pc-owned Bina Bawi fields to between 8 trillion and 14 trillion cubic feet. Talks are in progress about an export deal that would see the KRG supplying up to 25pc of Turkey's gas requirements. The exploration programme in Africa starts in the fourth quarter in Morocco, with drilling in Malta expected in the first quarter of 2014. Most of the world's easy oil has been discovered and oil companies are looking to under-explored areas for new reserves. Next year, Genel will drill its first well in Somaliland, the breakaway East African territory that declared independence from Somalia more than 20 years ago after a bloody civil war. There is talk that the geology in the country is similar to that of Yemen, where oil money generates 75pc of government revenGenel oil blocks in somalilandues. For obvious reasons, Somaliland is under-explored with little activity since the oil majors left in the 1980s. This means there is a good chance of finding oil. However, the fun will really start following any discovery. Somalia is likely to want a slice of the revenues so thrashing out an agreement may be challenging. Political difficulties appear to be getting resolved and a gas agreement between Turkey and the KRG will be very positive for Genel following recent gas finds. Diversification away from the KRG is welcome and the company's balance sheet remains robust. The shares are trading on a 2013 earnings multiple of 31.5 but this falls to 15.2 in 2014 and then just 9.8. Questor keeps a buy.

Dervish banu nahay korfield qorta waxa ka goyay Ismail mirre will be discussed in the conference : http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/72360-Kacaan-distortion-of-Somali-history-exposed-who-were-the-Dervishes?highlight=Dervish (BurcoOnline) 03.08.2013 Kooxda la baxday Khaatumo State ee ka dhaqdhaqaaqda deegaanada bariga Gobolka Sool iyo Buuhoodle, ayaa bisha siddeedaad ee fooda inagu soo haysa shir ku qabsanaysa degmada Taleex ee Gobolka Sool ee Somaliland. Kooxda Khaatumo oo ka cadhootay Maleeshiyaadkii faraha badnaa ee dhawaan ka soo goostay, ayaa sheegay inay shir maamul ku sheeg cusub lagu soo dhisayo bisha dambe uga furmayo Magaalada Taleex, waxayna qurba-joogta ka codsadeen inay dhaqaale ku taageeraan. Wasiirka Difaaca kooxda la baxday Khaatumo oo ka hadlayay kulan qurba-joogta taageertaa ay ugu qabteen Magaalada London ee caasimadda dalka boqortooyada Ingiriiska, ayaa qurba-joogta ugu baaqay inay gacan ka geystaan shir ay ku qabanayaan Magaalada Taleex ee Gobolka Sool “Waxa la yidhi farihii dufan leh baa wax duuga, idinku (Qurba-joogta) waa inaad noqotaan dad ay ku dhaaban tahay Khaatumo, oo isbarbar taaga shirwaynaha aynu samaynayno, yeynaan u kala maqnaan oo aynu dhaqaalaha ku taageerno” ayuu yidhi waxaanu intaa ku daray “Waxaynu dhisaynaa dawladdii rasmiga ahayd, waayo tii hore ku meelgaadh bay ahayd, waar markaanu idiin yeedhno (Qurba-joogow) noo yimaada, waayo shirkii Taleex anaga oo joogna ayuu mar kaliya shidaalku naga go’ay” Cabdilaahi *******, oo isna ka mid ah qurba-joogta kooxda Khaatumo la baxday, ayaa isaguna halkaasi ka sheegay weedho hanjabaad ah “Waxaanu 21 sanadood la dagaalaynay dawladda Ingiriiska anaga oo waran iyo toorey haysana, maantana ka waran annagii oo haysana adeegyadii (Hubkii), waar ooyi doonow aayar joog” ayuu yidhi

Galgala (BurcoOnline) 03.08.2013 ilo wareedyo Saxaafada u soo gudbiyay xogo ku saabsan dhaqdhaqaaq ka soo cusboonaaday Buuraha Galgala ayaa sheegaya in lagu arkay maalmihii u danbeeyay saraakiil Alshabaab ah kuwaas oo soo galay buurahaasi.Dhaqdhaqaaqa Alshabaab ayaa ku soo beegmaya xilli uu sii Laciifayo Maamulka Puntland oo dagaal joogto ah kula gali jiray Buuralaydaa kooxda Alshabaab, kuwaasoo wadagalay dagaalo badan oo khasaare badan labada dhinac gaadhsiiyay.Dhaqdhaqaaqan soo cusboonaaday ee kooxda Alshabaab ayaa loo aanaynayaa khilaafka dhexdooda ka qarxay iyo dagaaladda joogtada ah ee kaga socda deegaanada ay ka joogeen Somaliya, waxaanay go’aansadeen in galgala ay xoojiyaan, taasoo u noqon doonta dhufaysa ugu danbeeya ee ay ka dagaalamaan.Ilo wareedyadu waxa ay sheegayaan kooxda Al-shabaab wakhtigan in ay taageero ka helayso beesha Degta deegaankaas oo ka cabsi qabta Beelaha kale ee la degaa in ay ka qaadaan Dhulkooda, waxaanay u muuqataa Alshabaab iyo Beeshaasiba wakhtigan in ay iska kaashadaan labada cadaw ee ay kala leeyihiin. Al-shabaab ayaa inta badan ka faa’iidaysta Beelaha Dulman ama laga tirade badan yahay, kuwaas oo ay Xukunkooda ku difaacaan isla markaana Beelaha tiradabadan ku sanduleeya in Hantida iyo dhulka aan lakala sheegan Karin, taasna waxa marag cad u ah goobaha ay kaga sugan yihiin Somaliya oo dadka ay la joogaan u arkaan awooda kali ah ee ka difaaci karta Beelaha ka awooda badan.Dhaqdhaqaaqan cusub maadaama Puntland daciiftay lama oga Xukuumadda Somaliland in ay la socoto iyo inkale, wallow saraakiil Booliis ah oo uu hogaaminayo taliye ku-xigeenka Booliisku booqasho ku tageen Goboladda Sool iyo Sanaag.Laakiin dhawaan warbixintii Qaramada Midoobay Golaheeda Amaanku soo saaray waxa lagu faahfaahiyay in Xeebaha barri ee Somaliland ay adeegsadaan Kooxaha Alshabaab, iyadoo lagu sheegay Hub iyo Saanadba in ay kala soo degaan, taasoo Somaliland ku keeni karta in aanay waxba ka qaban.

A loose union, Serbia and Montenegro were united only in certain realms, such as defense. The two constituent republics functioned separately throughout the period of the Federal Republic, and continued to operate under separate economic policies, as well as using separate currencies (the euro was the only legal tender in Montenegro). On 21 May 2006, the Montenegrin independence referendum was held, and 55.5% of voters voted in favor of independence. The state union effectively came to an end after Montenegro's formal declaration of independence on 3 June 2006, and Serbia's formal declaration of independence on 5 June. After the dissolution, Serbia continued to be the legal successor of the union, while Montenegro re-applied for membership in international organizations.

Xaaji Xunjuf;971307 wrote: There is nothing eternal or sacred , but Somali republic we wish it well not sure how some politicians can keep up the unity, of a broken country. They don't understand the notion of unification two states can unite and can leave each other nothing new in international law. If two paties unite both parties have to be satisfied by the terms if not they can leave its simple logic. Serbia and Montenegro recently dissolved their union because Montenegro thought it had a better chance of getting into the eu by itself. Serbia accepted because an act of union legally occurred between the two. Somaliland no longer sees any benefit of being in union with a faile state simple had this been the eu it would have been accepted by now. With or without recognition Somalia as a unified state is history.

Some advice to my Somalis: hag forget SOMALILAND focus on your own house: before opening your mouth we want to see the entire city of mugdisho under one military force free from a.u. Or terrorism. To even utter the word SOMALILAND you must first meet that condition. If SOMALILAND can control Hargaisa, burco, borama, Berbera, erigavo, las canod and tens of other towns without terrorism free from au you should be able to achieve that. With your beloved recognition surely.

Xaaji Xunjuf;971271 wrote: No need to win hearts and minds what will that do for Somaliland whether they support it or not remains always irrelevant in the eyes of the people of Somaliland. They are Koonfurians and their opinion does not matter they are not even the boss in their own homes. There is no nation to begin with apophis and his clan feel they are closer to Nairobi than they are to Mogadishu. The Folks in Mogadishu say this every day ,Somalia is already dismembered u just dont want to see it War xaji konfurians are an anomaly I don't think any political theorist could ever understand them I think therapist would be better. You have the pirates who want hegemony even though they can't fight and have nothing left who hate hag. You have hag who can't live without a.u and can not even control or pacify their city. You have both these paties talking about a state older then Somalia itself; who controls all its territory and has held multiple elections. They sit there with their last card recognition. 22 yeas ago it was so what is in the north they will never find peace, they could never over through siad barre, they could never create a viable state. Waxtigi ba dacay sidi ay u lahayan midnamda wa muqadas. What good is recognition if general ogubango runs mugdisho for you.

Johnny B;971196 wrote: Disregarding the little white lie of "from the Djibouti border to the Somalia border" you're proving my very point , this very trusteeship that president Hassan leads is according to the UN, the only legal government of the UN member nation of Somalia, whose people in the north may have voted Mr silanyo as their leader, and yes the problem is bigger than Mogadishu, the problem consists of bringing Hargeisa to the fold of the Somali nation. What white lie badhan, las qorey, las canod to the Djibouti border is run by the SOMALILAND army I can post videos of army units even in buhoodle the army is just outside the town just because we don't raise it to the ground doesn't mean we can not go in as and when we please if it against the interest of SOMALILAND as we have shown in the past and again you prove my point in reference to your comment about the UN viewing mugdisho as the sole authority. Trusteeship mentality, the last card recognition. You have no state, your a trusteeship, your land is the apitamy of world state collapes for 23 years your trusteeship masters the UN have been negotiating and holding your hands to control mugdisho o which you still struggle till this day. But don't worry you have recognition mr Obama will solve all your problems. The world although not recognising SOMALILAND deals with it as a state, we have good relations with our naibours excluding the Somalians. We control out cities have the largest standing somali army, collect our taxes etc. don't worry your recognition will help you. Saxib wake up its been 23 years, this is the permanent norm after Hassan shieck another one will come and another nothing will change. SOMALILAND can not be forced into anything especially by you mr trusteeship under African mercanies. You find it a challenge to rule yourself even with your beloved recognition and millions of trusteeship dollars. Even your own beloved recognition is in danger as Somalia signs again and again that it is negotiating a future settlement with the government of SOMALILAND.

^^^ riyale was elected. Egal died then he inherited it took the country into elections and won. The majority voted for him regardless of clan. Somalilands political make up and the agreements of burco 1991 lay the foundation for power sharing in SOMALILAND. Similar to Lebanon according to size. Political parties are parties. Anyone can make one and every party had the same equal right to win or lose. This is the nature of democracy. In Somalia for argument sake lets say SOMALILAND is part of Somalia. The largest cities outside of mugdisho have been northern yet in the 50 years of union there was never a Somalilander as president not because of an agreement between Somalis but other factors. SOMALILAND elected riyale into power that is a fact. Silanyo was elected another fact. Everyone had the right to open parties ad they were fairly examined and competed till three won. When was the last time pirateville or Somalia had a free and fair election that elected someone non hag or d block? Care to tell me? Even in the pirates den the same sub clan has contolled it since its inception. So your argument is weak. Awdal has more to gain as part of SOMALILAND then it could ever gain in Somalia the 20 years of development is proof and las canod as well but they can't see it

Johnny B;971190 wrote: How can a Somali who supports Siilanyo/Faroorle/madoobe reason as to why president Hassan and/or prime minister Saacid is worse without resorting to clan interest? Silanyo is a democratically elected president voted for by millions of his own country men in a free and fair election. He has sovereignty over from the Djibouti border to Somalia border controlled by a national army. For you to compare him with the pirate head and madobe persona non grata shows who the real clan face is. Hassan shieck leads what in reality is a trusteeship territory monitored by joint au and UN. He can hardly handle mugdisho let alone anywhere else. The point I am making is why waste time on all talk when the problem is much bigger if you can't even control mugdisho then you might as well call it a day it's been 23 years already.

23 years on Ma waxa lagu chiri "dowladan is outrageous" Ethier support your president and you fix it or we call it a day and admit the obvious and move on. Somalia is the most used example of state failure on earth. Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are afraid of becoming Somalia acudibilah. In all seriousness your government is flawed because your system is flawed, your system is flawed because its been imposed and not organic, Alshabab have not been defeated they are in mugdisho they are in jowhar, barawe, baydaibo the countryside. Hassan shieck has not been able to conquer a single village without au assistance even with world recognition and millions of dollars in aid. My God.