^^^^^ as Londoners so elequilianty put it.... Speak english Mann... Xin you are sounding like Osman. Food is food. It was destined for somalilanders in eastern sool and that's we're it will go. In regards to federalism. Mugdisho is not in the hands of the government. Federalism will not work in Somalia everyone knows that. It won't work because it will unleash a new age of clan warfare and its to complicated for Somalis they still have not mastered the concept of governance yet haha.

Tillamook;974159 wrote: Long live the "post tribal" society of Somaliland... Coming from pirates who run 2.5 regions and have had one sub sub clan lead it since 1998 and can not even hold elections. Long live SOMALILAND indeed. But pirates can not lecture anyone considering their situation. SOMALILAND is a nation of tribes but those tribes while having personal issues make up the collective and we all have one thing in common SOMALILAND is to be maintained, enhanced, protected and developed.

It's called pirates desperation. When defeated everywhere they wish for you to turn on yourself. The number one article to come out of the conference will be SOMALILAND is sacrosanct mark my words like every other conference. Clans in SOMALILAND hold conference to usually talk about how to improve relations with naibouring tribes and develop their cities etc this one is no different. Osman if it is the case are you prepared to eat my shoe ?? I will air mail it to you hahah...

Never heard so much bacaaaaac from classified. Somalia is dead FULL STOP. In all honousty you have to be mad to want to be part of Somalia. When a state has been non existent for 22 years and has African mercenaries as police and national army you know something is not right. The SNM was arguably one the greatest rebel forces in history. They were outnumbered, outgunned, very difficult circumstances yet they managed to destroy Sub Saharan Africa's largest army. What happened in SOMALILAND did not happen in what was then Somalia. The SNM changed their position from unity to dissolving the union because the south as usual broke their agreement which was to overthrow the government and create a unity collision government. That was the straw that broke the camels back and now we don't have to share a country with classified and others who just read about the SNM recently. You have no clue what your talking about son

The government and European Union are exploring avenues of partnering in the "New Deal for Engagement in Fragile States". Below is an article published by the Somaliland Sun: This was revealed by the Somaliland ministry of foreign affairs in a press statement which also informed that the foreign minister Mohamed Behi Yonis, upon invitation of the European Union is en-route to Nairobi for follow up of earlier discussions with EU Special Envoy to Somalia/Somaliland, H.E. Ambassador Michele Cervone d'Urso. “Foreign Minister Mohamed Yonis visits Kenya to discuss the New Deal with donor countries Hon. Mohamed Behi Yonis, Minister of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation of the Republic of Somaliland, travels to Kenya today on his first official visit since taking office on 27 July 2013. The Foreign Minister leaves for Nairobi at the invitation of the European Union Special Envoy to Somalia, H.E. Ambassador Michele Cervone d'Urso, to continue discussions over a possible partnership between Somaliland and donor countries based on the principles of the "New Deal for Engagement in Fragile States." The Foreign Minister will also hold meetings with the UN Resident Coordinators Office, EU member states and other donor governments. His discussions with the donor counterparts will center on the more effective use of aid in addressing Somaliland's core development needs, with emphasis placed on promoting ownership and accountability. Alongside discussions on the New Deal partnership, Mr. Yonis will also relay the message delivered by H.E. President Ahmed Mohamed Silanyo during his Eid speech regarding Somaliland's position on participation in the 16 September New Deal Conference in Brussels. Through proactive engagement, the government of Somaliland looks forward to strengthening its partnership with the EU and donor governments in support of further democratization and development -Unquote The press statement was signed by A.Y. Elmi Press Officer Ministry of Foreign Affairs& International Cooperation The New Deal for Engagement in Fragile States was formulated by the International Dialogue on Peace Building and State Building (IDPS) and presented at the Fourth High Level Forum on Aid Effectiveness in Busan in December 2011 where it was endorsenew deald by the EU along with 36 countries, including 18 fragile countries, and 6 international institutions. The New Deal is based on three pillars: 1. the 5 Peace-building and State-building goals (Inclusive politics, security, justice, Economic foundations, revenues and services), 2. the FOCUS principles and 3. The TRUST principles. It sets a framework that builds mutual trust and strong partnerships between countries and their international partners. The New Deal is however more than a framework; it should be viewed as a new approach towards fragile situations and it should be applied in a customized way, depending on the country context. The EU will notably help countries in situations of fragility to establish functioning and accountable institutions that deliver basic services and support poverty reduction. Our new budget support policy should help us in doing this; particularly through using the new state-building contracts in fragile situations and to support democratic transition. The EU has undertaken the programming of its development cooperation for the period 2014-2020 in more than 130 countries in the world including the 10 New Deal pilot countries, the countries of the International Dialogue, and other countries that are on the path of becoming resilient. In our programming we will implement the principles of the New Deal and the principles of engagement in fragile countries. We are also preparing a new EU Results Framework for our development programmes. In this context we intend to include elements of the peace-building and state-building indicators framework developed by the g7+. We very much value the work undertaken

Classified;973654 wrote: The Professor-isku-sheeg took a page right out of Xaglatoosiye's book. Both gentlemen know how to make money. The man was the most staunchest anti SOMALILAND critic. He was the most passionate somaliweyn supporter and it was genuine not these pirates and hag who use it for personal gain but he was genuinely interested and loved somaliweyn to the extent he wanted to be president an help his people he even refused to purchase his presidency. The man was just a pragmatist and an idealist. He went south and saw the primitive backward political process of somalia. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to use reason, it is because of reason somaliland is were it is today and the lack of it is true for somalia. samatar is a lost son of somaliland who found his way home and he is with his people now. Keep your artificial presidency, your Burundians and your chaos believe me no one in SOMALILAND wants anything from somalia. They just thank god they don't have to share a country with you people.

Mafia;973628 wrote: Read the full article from the organization. That is the source. He co-founded Hill-Qaran, He was demoted to a non-core member even before he left for Hargeisa, and was later axed. It makes more sense that way. Maybe you should read it properly. He resigned and it was accepted.

Mingestu had both the west and the Soviet Union and even somalias naibours in his pocket hahaha...

Mafia;973612 wrote: Wrong. They booted him out, Abti. He was a traitor to the Somali weyn Qaddiyad. The press release says resigned and they accepted his resignation. What's your source or do you live in your own parallel universe? Show us a source to back up your claims. If not keep quiet. Heavy dose of reality is the best remedy to the mythical Somalinimo somaliweyn in Somalia. Example: midnimo Ayan Rabna: Galkacyo is divided by a green line. Democratiad ban Rabna: pirates have their own constitution, hag have their own constitution. No one trusts no one. Somalinimo Ayan Rabna yet they kill each other and continue to fight for dominance. Somalinimo no longer exists Siad barre And his followers killed it. Somalia as it was before is gone. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Hahaha... The worst tactician in human history.

^^^ stop embarrassing yourself and your people: its sad enough being left with 2.5 regions of desert wasteland and pretending to have something when all somali know you are nothing but hot air. Compete with galmudug Saxib because Somaliland other then taking your land and imprison you in you desert doesn't give two sh(ts what you or your pirate desert wasteland enclave think.

Pictures are wrong... Lakin they make us understand the seriousness of what we are witnessing. Allah raxma masakin. Never felt so bad for the Egyptian people.

^^^ MSF is not the UN Einstien. They go to war zones where no one will go to and treat injured people... Learn the difference between UN aid and MSF assistance. They do a fantastic job. Go and treat the poor people your denying basic life to. You think the somali government will help them?

Hobbesian_Brute;973431 wrote: We have seen this movie in Pirate-Land before. all they will get is water.:cool: I confidently predict there is no oil in all of somalia. we may have some oil offshore. The pirates are just cursed that's all. Typical xasid Somalis keep your recognition when God gives us oil that's all we need then what will you say. "You still don't have recognition" hahah....

Mafia;973429 wrote: Garoodi, you should care about my opinion. I'm just giving you a heads up. If there is oil to be had in Somaliland, trust me, HAG will take, if they don't, we will take it. SNM refused to be Somali, therefore have no right to benefit from its god-given resources. Truth hurts. Firstly I still don't care about your opinion because its all hope and dreams ...Hag is under Burundian protection they couldn't take from a kid outside mugdisho without Ugandan assistance and they are no threat to Somaliland clearly and won't be for at least another decade that's if they can pacify mugdisho. the pirates are SOMALILAND property everywhere they are except gedo and the few hiding behind kenyan tanks in kismayo they will be hag property sooner or later the ones north of galkacyo upwards they have been owned by duriyada since duriyada set foot on African soil to date. Shows how much your opinion counts.

Mafia;973416 wrote: SNM has no right to auction Somali social property, neither does President Hassan Sheekh. Labaduba waa danaystayaal waana lala xisaabtami doonaa. I don't think anyone cares for your opinion. Maybe you should start a thread titled who gives a sh)t what I think and see the response you get. Just thinking out loud. Hahahah

Hassan sheick will not budge on two things: the port and the airport have to come under the government 100% and without that madobe has nothing. He simply wants to talk to say I tried but nothing will come of it. If he loses kismayo he loses support amongst his kinsmen that he will never surrender. Xin is beating a dead horse in a vein hope that it comes back to life. Today or tomorrow kismayo will eventually fall to the government.

Saalax;973393 wrote: No it doesn't , Khaatumo doesn't even have major well known mountains such as Sheikh , Daalo or Surad in their lands apart from few hills in eastern Sool and those are not part of the Golis mountain range. Djiboutina khatumo Aya leh hahahah...

Dr_Osman;973329 wrote: Where is Garoodi camps in Hargaysa? oops I forgot he lives in one at bosaso so what can he build I'm to busy Osman chillin out in my villa in Hargaisa. Enjoy your desert wasteland.

Update: Arial survey results positive plus a further two seeps found: Natiijadii Sahanka Hawadda Ee Oodweyne Block Oo Muujisay Rajo Wanaagsan Hargeysa(OWN) Tarjumaada natiijada sahaanka dhinaca hawadda ee dhowaan laga qaaday dhulka uu ku yaal Balooga Oodweyne ayaa muujisay rajo wanaagsan oo dhiiri gelinaysa suurta galnimada helitaanka saliida la filayo in dhowaan la daah furo. Sahankan hawadda ayaa lagu fuliyey heshiis iskaashi oo dhex maray shirkaddaha Genel Energy,Petrosoma iyo Jacka Resources,isla markaana mudadii shaqadani socotay lagu gaadhay dhul bedkiisu dhan yahay 22700km ee Oodweyne Bloog. Gudoomiyaha Shirkadda Petrosoma Maxamed Yuusuf Calli oo arintan iyo sida ay ku timi ka hadalay ayaa yidhi[sahankan hawada waxa uu ku yimi heshiis lala galay shirkad lagu magcaabo Fugro,taas oo fadhigeedu yahay koonfur afrika,Fugro waxay sahanka ku dhamaysay xiligii loogu tala galay,kharashkii loo xadiday, tiiyoo iskaashi buuxa laga helay Dawladda iyo dadka ku dhaqan Degaanka Oodweyne Baloog]ayuu yidhi Maxamed Yuusuf. Fasiraada xogata sahanaka hawada ee la soo ururiyey , ka dib markii heshiis lala galay ayaa waxa fulisey shirkadda maraykan ah oo lagu magcaabo Bridgeport taas oo khibrad dheer u leh dhinaca hawlaha daraasaadka dhulka(geophysical) ee Afrika. Shaqada tarjuumaada xogtii la helay ayaa iyaduna muujisay natiijooyin iyo qeexitaano xiiso badan,ugu horayn naatiijooyinka soo baxay ayaa ah kuwo fa’iido weyn u keenaya mashruucan iskaashi ee sahaminta shidaalka,kuwaas oo wax weyn ka tari doona xiliga lagu guda jiro hawsha sahanka dhulka lagu ruxayo(sismec) ,sahanka dhul ruxista(sismec) waa marxalada ugu danbaysa ee la qorsheeyay,taas oo lagu wado in wejigeeda ugu horeeya ee diyaar garowgu noqdo labada bilood ee fooda inagu soo haya. Xogta sahanaka hawada ayaa sidoo kale waxay mashruuca iskaashi iftiimin dheeraad ah ka siisay in la fahmo qaab dhismeedka 30km oo hore loogu ogaaday sahan goobeed ay fulisay shirkadda Petrosoma. Ugu danabayntii sahankan hawadda ayaa muujiyey inay jiraan laba xidh saliideed (tog) oo dheeraad ah kuwaas oo ku yaal balooga Oodweyne. Mar kale Maxamed Yuusuf oo arintan ka hadalay ayaa ku tilmaamay mid sii laban laabaysa rajadii laga qabay in Balooga saliid laga helo[shaqadii adkayd ee uu qabtay mashruuca iskaashiga iyo dedaalkii wanaagsana ee shirkadda Fugro ayaa keenay natiijo wanaagsan,labada xidh ee cusubna waa arin layaab leh oo mudan soo dhoweyn isla markaana kor u qaadaysa suurta galnimada saliid laga helo balooga Oodweyne] ayuu yidhi,wuxuuna ka digey inay tahay xili hore waqti la saadaalin karo saliid laga heli karo dhulka Somaliland. Gudoomiyaha Petrosoma ayaa rajo wanaagsan ka muujiyey suurta galnimada in saliid laga soo saaro Balooga Oodweyne isagoo arintan ka hadlayana wuxuu yidhi[Waxaan ula badheedhay khatar balooga Oodweyne malaayiin lacagtayda gaarka ah tan iyo sanadii 2005,sidoo kale wadaagayaashayduna waxay diyaar u yihiin khatar tan ka weyn marxalada soo socota ee xiliga sahanka dhulka lagu ruxayo ilaa laga gaadho qoditaanka,hase yeeshee waxanu ka fa’iidaysanaynaa khibrada wanaagsan ee Joolajiyiinta iyo daraasadaha dhulka iyadoo la adeegsanayo farsamooyinka casriga noocooda ugu danbeeyay,laakiin Ilaahay uun baa og in aanu ka heli doono Balooga saliid geli karta ganacsi,hase ahaatee natiijooyinkani waa kuwo lagu dhiiran karayo]. Oodweyne News/Hargeysa http://oodweynenews.com/2013/08/natiijadii-sahanka-hawadda-ee-oodweyne-block-oo-muujisay-rajo-wanaagsan/

Dr_Osman;973323 wrote: Garoodi for 22 years is that all you can show. Hargaysa and two buildings. Niyahow the amount of construction done in hamar for the past 2 years supercedes your whole 22 years. Your a joke. Puntland is building institutions, you lack any of them That's coming from a guy who thinks bosaso is bigger then Hargaisa hahah. If you say so.

^^^ d block desperation these days. Saxib you can't put a price on liberty. They can keep there money. We will build our own roads. As for our politics when you see d block cabaading with baaacaaaaac SOMALILAND this bacaaac SOMALILAND that you know the governments strategy is good. I'm not expecting much from people who have lost at everything they ever attempted. How's your village of garabahary and bosaso the town that's equivalent to less then half the size of burco. The game was won before it began when you have people like the above as enemies. For the last 20 years of baaaacaaaac this baaacaaaaac that: we have been developing... So keep the bacaaaacs coming because we ain't gonna stop for you. " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen>

Alpha Blondy;973236 wrote: the last great wefti (consisted of Kulmiye members without portfolios) to China promised so much but delivered nothing of substance. how can we be sure this wefti isn't lying? also why china and their ''phone-i'' deals? Garoodi, please advise. Al. I think Kulmiye is looking to leave a lasting legacy. I have always been an udub supporter. Not because of tribe because most of my Gaaroodi folk support ucid. I supported udub because riyale advanced democracy and was slowly making progress. I was the most anti Kulmiye opponent. However achievements to date so far are impressive. They delivered on the national tv station and added a continental radio station to it. The replaced the currency in the eastern regions. They increased the pay of the armed forces and ranked them and made education free for all school children in all the regions. They have handled the disruptions in taleex very well and calmly and have brought on board top leaders. The reason for this next move is simple the people of SOMALILAND have not only been complaining about the roads for a long time but now they have actually started to build the roads themselves. The state needs roads to transport armies and resources and collect taxes and ensure security and the people need it to travel and trade. Roads and infrastructure are important if the country is to advance forward. This trip to china no one told them to go the government decided. As they say you have to spend money to make money Lets wait and see the people will build it but the government in my view wants to help with machinery were it can because its good for their image and will help them generate more revenue and assist with security etc not to mention reelection aims

Focus on mugdisho. Don't get ahead of yourself.

Wafti balaadhan oo ka socda Xukuumada Somaliland ayaa Dalka China u jooga sidii ay usoo indha indhayn lahayeen Iibsiga Qalab lagu Casri garnayn doono Jidadka Somaliland Guangzhou(Burcoonline)Wefti ka kooban Maareeyaha Wakaalladda Waddooyinka Somaliland Prof: Xassan Cali Cismaan , Gudoomiyaha Gudida Qandaraasyada Qaranka Mudane Aadan Cabdillahi Xassan Nugaal iyo Xoghayaha Wasiirka Madaxtooyadda Sharmaarke Axmed Muxumed ayaa gaadhay magaalo madaxda Gobolka Guangzhou ee dalka China. Weftigaas oo ujeedada socdaalkooda aanu wax ka weydiinay Mareeyaha wakaalladda Wadooyinka Somaliland RDA Prof Xassan Cali Cismaan ayaa sheegay in socdaalkoodu salka ku hayo u kuur-gelidda qiimaynta iibka qalabka waddooyinka lagu dhiso oo ay darsayaan. Socdaalkan ayaa uu ku sheegay indho indhayn iyo iibsi iyo Qiimayn qalabka wadooyinka lagu dhiso ee kala duwan, isagoo hadalkiisa sii watana wuxuu kale oo uu sheegay in uu yahay safar taariikhi ah maadama qalab tayo sare leh loo samayn doono hada wixii ka dambeeya Wadooyinka Somaliland , waxaanu xusay in horumarinta jidadku yihiin hal-bowlaha kaabeyaasha dhaqaalaha iyo furaha dhaqaaluhu ku tannaado.isla markaana ka mid tahay balanqaadyadii Xukuumadu gashay. Gudoomiyaha Gudida qandaraasyada qaranka Mr Aadan Cabdilaahi Xasan Nugaal ayaa ku sheegay in socdaalkoodani uu yahay mid ahmiyad weyn u leh dalka, maadaama oo ay qiimaynayaan qalab xukuumadda Somaliland ka soo iibsanayso dalka China si ay waddooyinka u casriyeeyaan. Waxaanu sheegay inay qalabkaasi ku doonayaan qiime macquul ah oo ay awoodda dhaqaale ee dalku gaadhi karto. Gudoomiyaha Gudida qandaraasyaddu waxa uu intaas ku daray inay hadda qiimayn iyo indho-indhayn ku sameynayaan shirkado kala duwan oo ay ka doonayaan qalabka ay u baahan yihiin. Aadan Xasan Nugaal waxa kale oo uu sheegay inay mudada ay joogaan dalkaasi ay doonayaan inay abuuraan xidhiidho kala duwan oo lala sameeyo shurkado gacan ka geysan kara horumarinta kaabeyaasha dhaqaalaha, sida beeraha iyo dhaqaalaha. Gudoomiyaha Gudida qandaraasyaddu waxa uu intaas raaciyay inay isbarbar-dhig ku samayn doonaan qiimeyaasha shirkaduhu u sheegaan ee la xidhiidha qiimaha qalabka ay u baahan yihiin. Waxaanu sheegay in socdaalo kale ku tagi doonaan waddammo kale mustaqablka dhaw. Weftigan ayaa markii uu ka soo degay madaarka Gobolka Guangzhou lagu soo dhaweeyey si diiran oo meeqaam sare leh, waxaana madaarka ka qaaday Gawaadhida martidda loogu tallo-galay. Socdaalka Masuuliyiintan ayaa qeyb ka ah himilladda xukuumadda Somaliland ee la xidhiidha in mustaqbalka dhow la casriyeeyo jidadka dalka isla markaana arrintaasi u tahay ahmiyad weyn oo ay culayska saarayaan. Burcoonline Media Team Guangzhou/ China http://www.burcoonline.com/view.php?id=13068

Carafaat;973191 wrote: Gar_marqaate, During the Borama Conference of 1993 the Somaliland Charter was adopted. You can find the document in the link below. The document was signed by the Presidium(see their names in the document) of the Conference which consisted of members who were elected by the 150 delegates to Chair the meeting and sign it on their behalf. Among the 150 delegates were for example Ali Khaliif Galeyr and Garaad Abdiqani(AUN). http://www.somalilandlaw.com/somaliland_national_chartercha.htm This is what happens when you have self interested leaders who don't know what truth or reality is you have people like the mentioned above who never new a conference occurred or that they signed SOMALILAND into being. Instead they run around Dervish banu nahay sool Sanag ceyn. The inhabitants of a Parallel universe seriously.