He is on the wrong track, the whole world is moving towards federalism and he wants to go back to centralism. its like downgrading from windows 7 to windows 95. makes no sense.

Carafaat;973425 wrote: Slavery doesn't even exist anymore. This is a non-issue. Slavery exists today in many Muslim countries if your not aware. in places like Mauritania slavery still flourishes. Muslims are agitating for sharia law today, tomorrow they will demand the return of slavery. its not an academic question at all.

DoctorKenney;973400 wrote: Slavery in Islam only exists in the context of Jihaad and acquiring prisoners of war. So if the Muslim State wages war, then the POW's (prisoners of war) are then acquired as slaves. So Islam reformed society in the sense that there were multiple avenues to acquire slaves in ancient society .... But Islam reduced the avenues to acquire slaves to just one; having Prisoners of War after the battle is finished. Tell me about those avenues. I don't know of any other way of acquiring slaves, except through warfare -- jihad and raids -- ghazwa. DoctorKenney;973400 wrote: Either way, this is a complex issue, but Islam certainly doesn't advocate going to random villages, capturing men, women and children, and then selling their price, which is what the American slave trade was infamous for . I don't think its complex at all, slavery is evil, islam should reject it unequivocally for all time. Islam provides an overarching justification -- waging jihad against infidels; where slaves are captured. do you know that Muslims were overwhelmingly responsible for collecting the blacks destined for the Atlantic slave trade from the interiors of Africa and selling them to the Europeans. and that the atlantic slave trade itself pales in comparison to the far more evil and cruel but less infamous African trade perpetrated by the Arabs mainly from East Africa. Bits and pieces from history indicate that Muslims enslaved over 150 million African people. DoctorKenney;973400 wrote: This Hadith by the Prophet says this: Sahih Bukhari Book 2 Number 29 "Your slaves are your brothers and Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears. Do not ask them (slaves) to do things beyond their capacity (power) and if you do so, then help them." The Quran repeatedly tells the Believers to free their slaves, and it is also commanded to free your slaves if they request it, and write a contract guaranteeing their freedom (Surah 24:33) "Muhammad took pains in urging the faithful to free their slaves as a way of expiating their sins. Some Muslim scholars have taken this to mean that his true motive was to bring about a gradual elimination of slavery. Far more persuasive is the argument that by lending the moral authority of Islam to slavery, Muhammad assured its legitimacy. Thus, in lightening the fetter, he riveted it ever more firmly in place." Murray Gordon, Slavery in the Arab World In other wards, Muhammad was sanitizing and legitimizing the practice for all time. DoctorKenney;973400 wrote: Either way, this is a detailed issue and is already addressed by numerous English-speaking Islamic scholars (Bilal Phillips) and others. Don't turn this forum into some Islamic Debate forum. Because every single post you made here is related to Islam and criticizing it thereof. Nothing else Muslims say theirs is the one true religion.What are you scared of then ? i address many other issues on this forum.

Siyaasi;973406 wrote: lol, at least arabs don't smell, i can smell your dirty armpits from here, monkey. So you have smelled arab armpits before, how else would you know, Dayuus waaxid. waxaano kale ayaa somaali kula sheeganaya, akhas.

Siyaasi;973403 wrote: xayawaan indha adag baad tahay, your telling us its ok to hate some humans and not right to hate others. saqajaan waaxid. I understand now you are a sangadhuudhi oromie Murtad . you can go┌∩┐yourself Arab lover, afkaaga huurada leh ka leexi walaalehena africa.

Bantus dad xun ma'aha, that can't be said about Arabs and Muslims that's why i criticize them. if they changed their ways today, i would stop criticizing them, nor do i hate any race or physical features. shame on you for coming to the defense of this troglodyte so you can score cheap points against me.

ok carafaat here you go; "Slavery is a part of Islam... Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam... [Those who argue that slavery has been abolished are] ignorant, not scholars. They are merely writers. Whoever says such things is an infidel." Sheikh Saleh Al-Fawzan, member of Senior Council of Clerics, Saudi Arabia's highest religious body (2003) Slavery still exists today only in Muslims states like Sudan, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Niger and many others. Sharia law condones this evil practice. "Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them...)..." Quran 23:1 "Prophet, We have made lawful for you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave-girls whom God has given you as booty..." Quran 33:50 "Mohammed had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more slaves than he sold, especially after God empowered him by His message, as well as after his immigration from Mecca. He once sold one black slave for two.... His purchases of slaves were more than he sold...." Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya, Zad al-Ma'ad (1.160) There is the wonderful sharia you so fond of, where is the human dignity ?

Golis belongs to Khatumo state, back to the drawing board chump.

what proof do you want carafaat ? on which topic ?......

I have reported you the SOL higher echelons, expect your name among the banned list soon. :mad:

sharia law allows for slavery, would you be Ok with that Dr kenny ?

Alpha Blondy;973373 wrote: ninyahoow ma sanguddudi baa tahay nooh? see weeyo, nooh? naga daa ciyarta and STOP restricting my freedom of speech . :mad: You have some nerve, talking about freedom of speech when you trample upon the dignity of other human beings. saqajaan, apologize now.:mad:

I will never understand the appeal of Rap/Hip-hop music. But to each his/her own.

Alpha Blondy;973344 wrote: ^ being bantu is a state of mind. it's not just about having two rooms and corridor for a nose , you know. That's outrageous and uncalled for, please delete this qashin asap and apologize to bantus forthrightly.:mad: :mad:

That is impractical, how many thousands of assemblies can a poor country accommodate ?

Why not concentrate on your own backyard, instead of talking about other regions. " Charity begins at home".

Mustaqbal idp camp ?? use somali names for heavens sake, and sheet metal buildings in the middle of the desert is not good idea.

^ is that you C&B ?

Alpha Blondy;973195 wrote: LIVE from the nation's capital , this is Alpha Blondy ee sida uula soco. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL which nation is that ?? Borat-land.

Intellectual achievements are not limited just to Nobel prizes, but include fields medals awards, patents applications, pisa education rankings etc... not to mention economic growth, industrialization, development and many other indicators. i don't think the intellectual poverty of the 57 Islamic nations is just down to religion alone, others factors also play a big role.

Reeyo;973150 wrote: Aaah they say ignorance is bliss- Really? Here is a fact: Islam is not a race or a country. It can't be deported . Yes, it can be deported , but i will instruct them to leave Reeyo alone.

Xaaji Xunjuf;973124 wrote: No the fact that some people say Somaliland consists of 5 clans is strange why is maakhir and the garaad clan 2 separate clans , are they not the same clan. No one is going to redraw a map because there are some troubles in some districts. I disagree with wadani i believe the vast majority of the eastern sool and eastern sanaag and the southern Buhoodle district are all on board. But there are some problems, i can predict that Khatumo eventually will merge with Somaliland. The people who live in the country have moved on this is the reality. But people who live outside Somaliland try to emphasize on the differences between the people of Somaliland. Remember people who live in the diaspora have left in the early 1990s at the height of the civil war. I believe the unity of reer SL had been damaged by the repressive regimes of Somalia, who divided the people of Somaliland. Taleexi is not a bad man to he even said that Somalia is divisible so the issue is not Somaliweyn or that he believes the koonfurians are better for the garaad clan. He some how distrusts the middle clan of Somaliland. And that needs to be worked on for the betterment of the nation. They are two separate clans, the British colonials dealt with them as two separate clans as well.

It can't it be a success if out of the 5 constituent clans at the outset, only one clan is for it now and all others have rejected it. Back to the drawing board.

How do i think my ancestors are European ??

your simply overcompensating, were you a poor student ??