nuune;914246 wrote: Norf Abu Salam,the region hasn't embraced yet that level, all government controlled, as in the case of Ethiopia and Djibouti, for Somalia, you really need to have the suppport of few ministers to have such projects Ethiopia is different but Djibouti always allowed airlines or private investments (now booming with better codes etc) though of course it's much easier to have local partners; we can enrol key ministers in Sland don't worry about that if the business is viable in theory (as in Nairobi flight schools). This wadaad was re-doing his degree via distance learning in that field and it seems it's quite established/ in demand a program: http://www.cavc.ac.uk/en/coursepage?uio_id=75537

Well, you just described me, both dugsi macalin and teachers were fond of me, hooyo recently reminded me how they all liked me at school meetings. One funny thing was my geo/history French high school teacher, he barely believed how I anticipated him even in his pet areas (lignite mining in ex RDA etc), still kept his praising notes. Only and worst inconvenient was choosing majors at uni...

:D Sol is madly hilarious at times. Thierry.;914300 wrote: Ngonge we have scientific backing to skive, I urge you to FYI the Mrs Science is overrated unlike mere prudence and back to basics sxb; irony is that back in Africa or Arabia you guys would have armies of maids (even middle-class have few). I'm very fond of babies, actually we didn't mind changing our cousins etc when the maids were away, likewise for cooking at times, esp. crepes or experimenting with or baking cakes (the whole family was into it; kind of business related too). Juxa, what if treating your friends or hooyo, I find cooking/baking kind of therapeutic plus our maids have full rights (paid classes, time off etc).

Qansax, we share a key trait then, I've seen eclectic bros lately live and that was quite refreshing (thought it was very rare for Somalis); even as a kid I was much more absorbed by Somali history, parents eco or health/children dvpt books than school things. I wouldn't be surprised you were gifted/effortlessly good at school or learning too.

Wyre, sxb, I love the place because it's so close and an international key city (we used to get our bikes, games etc sent from there) etc. Nuune, sxb, you need to get a cheaper Let410 based in Hargeysa for flights to Borama etc and a mini Cessna in Djibouti (the army has several of each) for private flying school, I'm sure you'll find interested pple or banks such as Dahabshiil (Xamar will be the next step; many cadets will soon be needed). I've seen those Colombians DC3 on AJE, much safer than roads yet so cheap.

So you are neither student of humanities nor sentimental idealist but captivated by social sciences theories? I guess you are one of the few ecclectic people that may be programmer or chef but well-versed in history or poetry afficionados; it's interesting to be curious of fields way outside your own instead of usual foot/fadhi-ku-dirir hobbies.

Enjoy Norf and my pleasure bro. I'm dreaming sometimes of those picturesques far away places like Salvadore de Bahia, Vina Del Mare or Porto Rico but can't stand Nice, Paris, Dubai etc (I guess it's what is inaccessible that is craved). Nuune must be forced to share those airmiles; socialism has good sides no

QansaxMeygaag;914028 wrote: Also people are different. Some are sentimental and kinda romantic - others just get on with it. We tried inheriting our dead father's house an am like "sell the damned house and let's split the money" and some of my siblings think am stark raving mad for having the audacity to say that because the old house has a lot of sentimental value for them. Am not saying I don't have a sentimental/romantic bone in my body, just that it is a spectrum and on a sliding scale some tilt towards the 100% and others towards the 0% or thereabout. Also, sentiment is "situational", images of happier times usually come when we are sad and want things to get better. If you are having a ball, it is unlikely you will be attached to moth-eaten shirt of a long-dead uncle... Qansax, you must be a psychology/social sciences student, those tend to be my thoughts too. I was too nostalgic even as a child and in good times and generally very sentimental (vacations, sega megadrive, get esp. attached to people too etc). It has good sides and inconvenient ones too, I guess difference is needed.

wcs Norf, the recording was there along the factory pre-enregistred music, do not hesitate if more is needed or anything else please. The suit is to replace current ones, trial, yes this is part of the things found more easily abroad along with books etc, a couple maybe will do for now (though after all post delivery worked just fine in DJ last time I ordered online). Not everybody is as rich as Nuune you know

wcs, alhamdulilah great day indeed; Juxa, it's not so much specific knowledge that matters (it's all relative and transient) but the innate curiosity and well-roundedness that impress me much more (say someone as at ease with sciences as world history etc). Last time, I learned a good deal from interacting with such people was, ironically, when back in Africa (broad education up to uni). Less prosaically, I need to order decent but affordable suits from itailor but it takes 3 weeks to get it; I guess those mini luxuries such as pastries and croissants, suits or halal massage/beauty salons for men are lucrative even back home but I hate superficialities/junk marketing (it's easy to find good cakes or croissants in Jabuuti but not much choice in clothes).

Met a Soler relatives yesterday, smart bros, just prayed together as no time left for lunch. They got relatives in Djibouti too, or how nomads are all indirectly interconnected. This chap today, from around the same area was smart and well-rounded despite not much formal schooling, eager and adapting quickly; people are endlessly fascinating creatures that defy all immediate preconceptions. There must be something in the water in Togdheer too

It would not make sense to practice in the West with taxes, stress etc; relations back from Cuba, Africa or Tunisia I know are quite satisfied in Djibouti despite offers and their quality of training (equivalent to French standards); the Gulf pay most for healthcare workers though.

Had read about how crucial friendship is and how modernity has eroded it (relations are seen as key to health, happiness etc); our elders used to treat friends like close family. Friendship not built on spirituality and mutual encouragement towards good is doomed and superficial by definition (the rest should and can be overlooked with greater wisdom).

Most often, money is an excuse though with the cheaper schools abroad, state support etc...its more the will that lacks (and how hard is memorisation and applied biology versus abstract maths, physics etc?). Anyway, there are better ways to make money or help others if that is what you want (simple water wells or simpler drilling will save far more lives so do fundraising, fighting for new laws or against corruption, not to mention other options); I think medical school is chosen more for prestige or safety etc instead of interest in parts of clinical science/research for which it is the one of the best choice with public health, nursing or radiology etc (Somalis think DR are special or extra knowledgeable). Still, it's interesting to study and probably exciting as for some accounting or even law would sound like torture. Now it's China where everyone seem to go for medical school but the Ulamas say find an Islamic country (mixity, scandals etc).

Too late? thought people studied medicine well into 30s or even beyond. It is so common anyway for people to regret not going into medicine/sciences/maths/engineering though. Of course, engineering is almost open entry for all in the US, UK etc but in France, the regular way (ultra tough theory heavy preparation years plus degree and maybe spec.) is elitist and those well-rounded engineers most respected (more than DR). My sibling did stuck to those 3 years for entry exams plus 4 years but was then guaranteed VIP posts (Guelleh was keeping an eye on him as he was on presidential scholarship too but another company paid for his plane ticket etc; their company employ only Enac aviation school graduates as those other snob elitist Frenchs and they are courted by Saudis etc). I'm somehow seen as the failure of the 3, much potential and no top eng. school (though I'd much prefer medicine if I had the choice back then)

How much money is a bit simplistic in the sense it all depends on what and who you value but I'd feel rich with 200000 or even less (helps pay for medical school if ever...or at least enhance the family imp/exports, get more vehicles to rent out). I'm too idealistic, just desperate for others to suffer less, destroy our environment/urban open spaces, could not care less about fancy car or consumerism (ideally to be banned or severly restricted). I barely spend beyond books, charity and gifts for others but 10-20 millions may go a long way: a model teaching hospital that train and care at minimal cost a la Cuban etc, some publishing/media presence that propagate those ultra efficient systems (appropriate technology irrigation, low-cost construction) and, above all, equality/ethics (solidarity/selflessness, sustainability).

We have to admit "Northerners" in Borama and other places in the "North" are more than hesitant about formal secession even before formal campaigning or propaganda allowed for both sides. Likewise, accusing any dissident voice of "naivety" or "treason" as if some clear sacred rule has been questioned do lower the level of the debate. The example of the UAE or Quebec (which includes only totally French enclaves) are just proves that alternatives exist and deserve to be seriously explored so as to stop constant conflict and diversion of resources as well as energy; life is indeed too short to obsess about a dogmatic position for the sake of it when urgent development and trade need to be quickstarted. In that light, dogmatic secessionism that differ little if at all practically from a loose confederation model, is only prolonging the needless tremendous suffering indissociable from the current state of permanent tension and distraction.

The Arabic seems almost ideal practice material along other classical arabic texts: eg, "ariinaa quwatu xujjatuk" etc. Even a wadaad in remote Africa, familliar with usual texts or tafsiir can understand much of it.

Oodweyne, to be frank I deeply care about my Northern home and people as we still reside there, I do however love deeply Southerners too in general and some even more than close family (maybe you should let bygones be bygones and visit the new Xamar with us ). What I was wondering about is this anyway: "Let's forget other considerations and focus on the practical side of some loose confederation (eg, in Quebec a French student pay minimal fees as the locals etc whereas those from next door Ottawa, the capital, are not considered local; the province sends delegations etc...); is there any hidden threat that can't be adressed and is worth obssesing about, sacrificing for, within that context of almost unfettered sovereignity whether it be economic or legislative?" PS we have the highest Sland ministers to visit us litterally at home so I'm not fully clueless though it is irrelevant vis-a-vis the question of why a full, formal state is worth obssesing about ...

The basic truth is that Somalis in the South (oversimplification: how "South" is Garowe?) are not culturally dissimilar to us "Northerners" (again too simplistic a term as many from Las Anod consider Kismayo as home etc). Another one is that, just as within the North, there is some mistrust but no real enmity at population level. Now what really matters is how conflict could be minimised; if viewed through that lens, the re-incorporation of Sland is not a priority and dialogue (with the wishes of dissenting voices, within the North itself, at the core) is the only way forward. I'd personally envision a solution a la Quebec as realistic and second best just like NORF; the issue of military or economic oppression adressed through clear rules and multi-layered safeguards (what is there to threaten since regional admins rule practically everything?), it is hard to imagine a regime in Xamar bombing again rebels capturing major cities (after all, the regime ordered aerial bombings only after Ethio armed SNM invaded the cities). Once you got the issues of local self-rule enshrined in many ways, the grievances aired first by the SNM or many "Northerners" are satisfied and the obssesion for a full state again become redundant. PS: Let's forget other considerations and focus on the practical side of some loose confederation (eg, in Quebec a French student pay minimal fees as the locals etc whereas those from next door Ottawa, the capital, are not considered local; the province sends delegations etc...); is there any hidden threat that can't be adressed and is worth obssesing about, sacrificing for, within that context of almost unfettered sovereignity whether it be economic or legislative?

this week has been all about the sudden death of Jb central banker and TV news about the condoleances and heavy delegations from Sland, Pland etc (Sland Fin. minister ina samale was there, last time I saw him was at gd dad funeral); on last Friday, his wife announced the critical state at the Nairobi clinic to the family which rushed before being turned back by the security, seems like the 1st lady and others did resist to make it public untill a day later. The man was responsible for the top elite investments (many went to inaugurate the 17m hargeysa coca plant) and as per rumours the only sibling in good terms with Ms Kadra (was joking with hooyo, one of those that resist blind obedience, that auntie being extra nice to the 1st lady helps mitigate any risk for her). The relations between the inner core of the top elite is almost hollywoodian with much drama, scandals and scheming (many say Kadra "run the country" or resented the Haid family).

Maybe we need the Darwish Foundation in pland and then umbrella will unify both a a later stage ; still, what matters is that anti-corruption or focus of the economy and states policies towards equality will influence other Somalis too...

What has the great ancient Islamic author got to do with medias terms such as "wahabis", whatever that may mean (and Sh Abdulwahab was just "yesterday" whatever mistake he did); Ibn Taymiyah is also an historical figure (role in repelling the Tartars etc). A-B bro, Frantz Fanon 'Les Damnes de la terre' (the wretched of the earth) about the long Algerian liberation struggle against French atrocities is indeed a timeless classic about colonisation of minds and brainwashing, torture and dehumanisation; both as a psychiatrist and embedded doctor in the French side, both his mind and militantism were impressive (he was also a metis, part Antilles black). I saw it as among "80 books for a basic general culture", ironically in France (less controversial than Keynes general theory).

Juxa, I understand that meaning of friends as the countless acquaintances, but was refering to close ones. I only have few at a time and sometimes one move in different directions, distance comes into play etc. I find other relations superficial even with few largely trusted and good people (as opposed to my younger sibling or cousins). Even with all the love and respect I have for those few gems, it has always been exhausting to listen to or socialise with them outside specific circumstances (I'm sure some would say the same about me). It's not that I obsess about anything, I'm actually very tolerant, but I quickly get bored if someone is not a bit well-rounded, ecclectic or know his topics and show coherent/logical thinking without hearsays, cadiifad or groupthink (a bit like those cadaans geeks). But of course I can and do enjoy the moment if it's about sports, travel etc...that doesn't count as real friendship though (which is a bit like family, plus intellectual like-mindedness).

Qutb and others are controversial and thus is politics but just found Ibn Qayyim famous one: الداء والدواء (click on الكتاب)