Haatu;913070 wrote: I don't know whether or not to be offended by this. On the one hand I'm light, on the other I'm short and can't speak proper Somali coz I'm a sijui I aint that much lighter than the typical Somali and I ain't short so I don't know why I'm not Somali according to them. Some say it's the facial features but who knows. No offense intended bro; let's keep talking. Fikrada waa in laysdhafsado....sidaa yay hawshu kuhagaagtaa...

Not good to speak ill of the dead but isn't he the same one who signed off NFD to Kenyatta?

Alpha Blondy;913003 wrote: WTF is wrong with you man? why are you having a go at me for? i was walking down my street when a couple of youths thought they were cool. they throw some rocks at me. i got hit and demanded an answer. next minute, we were fighting and i took all 3 of them on. little skinny pricks. they got destroyed. might put the pics up later. Why did they pick on you? Were you dressed "qurbaha style" - low-hanging jeans, showing some under-garments, certain non-native swagger? And lastly, are your wearing an ear-stud like your avatar?

Alpha Blondy;913000 wrote: Oba, i was just involved in a serious fight with some guys on the street. i got a bloody nose but didnt go down without a fight. i swear i killed the wasteman. little skinny pricks. y'all should have seen it. it was jokes. these people can't fight walahi. all talk and no action. What is going on with you? Are you OK? You have me worried man!

Reeyo;912784 wrote: You are young and already you have been infected with the infamous need for one to be Somali they must acknowledge 'clan' as important. The reality is very different. Clan is a name of an old geezer that died many years ago that trying his best to not send avenging angels upon all the fools that mention his name in-order to glorify their pathetic existence. Time to claim your own name and stamp on the earth before you depart. Not really; I am not infected by the clan virus, I just keep an open mind. The Quran itself says we have created you different so you know each other. I doubt the Prophet (SAW) would be ashamed to say he was Quraish if asked, nothing wrong with being Quraish. But he would not give privilege to Quraish over others si xad-gudub ah. That's how I see the issue of clan, an identity, a neutral thing that neither brings me shame no pride as so and so. I am only better then the next person if I am more pious than they are. Finito!

Xaaji Xunjuf;913034 wrote: Sudaantu way ino yara eegyihin but they down have the famous hawk nose but i love their white clothing i am in love with their traditional white clothing. The habash i can tell from a miles away they have bug eyes always check the habash his eyes they are huge they have flat heads most of the time and nappy hair and they're short, these people look nothing like Somalis , Us Somalis are tall and have normal eyes the only thing we share with the habash is the hawk nose even though many habashis have flat noses. Ofcourse non horners can't tell the differences and they consider these folks from the same stock but horners can tell the difference. The average Xabash is much shorter and much much lighter than the average Somali...I disagree with the hair issue, they have very thick hair, what Somali's would call "garda" - not too soft/jilic/bis and not too hard either...

Xaaji Xunjuf;913031 wrote: Waxad tidha i am a Somalilander the land of the brave the land of the Kings my lineage is pure on both my maternal side and paternal side. Xaaji there is no such thing as a pure Somali clan. It is a big myth. Because we are patriarchal, we just count our fathers side but I bet you if you ask about your grandmothers, their mothers etc i.e. if you follow the women, you will find out we are all mongrels. I asked my mum to do a small map for me by asking: 1. What clan was my father's mother? 2.What clan is your mother? 3. What clan was my father's grandmother? 4. What clan was your grandmother? 5. How about the clans of the husbands of all these women? You get the picture! I was astounded that just 4 generations into the map, I counted 5 different clans, from cagdheers, to reer gedo, to certain sections of SLers - all different from if I follow just my father's line, and his father and so on. So if you do, what in social sciences they call "intensity scoring", even though you are say sand-dweller, 70% of you might be something else. Intensity scoring meaning you give a score to a given response every time you here that answer.

xabad;912982 wrote: War , am just joking. Although i have seen Kenyan women who genuinely surprised me with their fairness. i really thought some Bantus were undergoing metamorphosis. cosmetics help too. Still, i could never get with Bantus. Hoogay, ba'ay! You don't know what you are missing...

Apophis;912868 wrote: There's a clan called Caro dhag?? That's me doing literal translation "Caro" is a general term for "soil"; "ciid" means sand, not just any soil.

Wadani;912869 wrote: hahaha....not a bad attempt. But translate sand as 'ciid' and dweller as 'gale'. Is it "ciid" as in sand or "cida" as in tol/reer/families? Sand-dweller doesn't sound right...

I listened to Al Awlaki's series on Abu Bakr, Cumar and the Prophets. Brilliant!

GaroweGal;913014 wrote: Just shut up! Walaahi you are pathetic. Guys let's talk about this; what are the real issues? 1. AID ineffectiveness? 2. Tokenism by reer galbeed, every once in awhile they throw a bone to someone in Africa? 3. That someone else deserved the Prize and not Hawa? 4. All of the above or permutations of them? 5. Something else I am missing?

Alpha Blondy;909238 wrote: ''the somali mother teresa'' ''really impressive stuff'' ''well done Hawa!'' ''how noble of you hawa!'' ''how amazing you've spent an entire lifetime dedicated to helping others!'' ''we are proud of Hawa , a true heroine of the people'' ''we love you Hawa'' ''where there is abject poverty, you find inspirational women of strength like Hawa'' ''you're a hero and if more people were like you then the world would be a better place'' PATHETIC! what's next - NOBLE PRIZE for peace? GTFOH!!!!!!!!!!! tokenist conferments are pathetic and not worthy of mention. the committee probably decided - let's pick some random obscure organisation in war-torn somalia and give them the prize this year. it makes a mockery of Hawa's hard work and efforts and she's none the wiser for accepting their accolades. silly old woman. the money spent on this ceremony is probably worth more than Hawa's entire annual budget. these events are a waste of everybody's time and efforts. this is not the bloody OSCARS! there are real life problems out there who need real life visionary folks like eedo Hawa. does Hawa care for being the recipient of such accolades? i'd imagine NOT! but she's a sell-out for accepting this prize. sure, she'll secure more funding streams now that she's hit the jackpot with this award and has world wide acclaim, that is - individually. but let's not judge her and leave the judging to those who award you first then accuse you of financial mismanagement and corruption. also why does Universal TV have to mention the names of the individual 'somali donors' who've sent, in kind, a few hundred US dollars. these do-good'ers are lulling themselves in a false sense of piety, particularly when hearing their names aloud as the camera crew visit the destitute in another refugee camp, another hospitals, another orphanage and other places of poverty. this voyeur-like paternalism is DISGUSTING. let these people suffer in dignity and leave them ALONE. Wah! What happened today in my absence bro Alpha. Something seems to have really really pissed you off. Is it our craze for recognition from westerners or Hawa herself? Is it the wastefulness of the AID industry where all the money, over 70%, goes back to reer galbeed and just a trickle goes to those who really need it?

Haatu;912860 wrote: Heh, I know what you mean. There's Somalis when I first meet them that refuse to believe I'm Somali. Apparently I'm either Eritrean or Sudanese. I wonder how they can even tell the difference. In my experience, the first yard-stick is color. If you are several shades lighter than the average Faraax/Xaliimo, you are not Somali, you must be Injirley or Eritrean or something else. It is even worse when they try to talk to you and you can't speak Somali because you are sujuu or have spent an inordinate amount of time in the Qurbaha and you qaab doesn't "look Somali".

Wadani;912856 wrote: Im a sand-dweller...but people think im eritrean, egyptian, ethiopian or african American. My blood boils anytime ppl think anything but a Somali.:mad: But isn't that a good quality? You can pass for any of them...as long as you are confident of your Somaliness, why should you care what other Somalis say?

xabad;912838 wrote: Nope Qansax, i do mean it. beauty is in the eyes of the beholder as they say. I'm not interested in over perfumed anorexic faro-dheer women Then am with you; beauty indeed is in the eye of the beholder. My friend was smitten with a Kenyan Kikuyu lady....

Wadani;912907 wrote: Actually there was a psychological study done on monkeys to see how important touch was for an infant (infant monkey in this case). One was placed in a cage with a metal bar with a feeding bottle attached to it. The other was placed in a cage with a feeding bottle attached to a fury object much like an adult monkey. The latter monkey would feed and then cuddle up with the fake mother, while the other would just feed. The developmental differences in the two monkeys proved to be huge, with the former developing severe psychological problems followed physical problems that eventually led to his death. The other monkey was relatively well adjusted and healthy. We cannot extrapolate from these results with %100 certainty that the same would occur with human infants, but it does give us a clue nonetheless. So Dhagax-tuur isn't so odd after all lol. That just proves we need love and care in order to thrive as opposed to just material things...

Rumaysah;912931 wrote: As we grow up, we realise it becomes less important to have more friends and more important to have real ones. Good friends are hard to find so when you find one, hold on tight! Where do you draw the line between holding tight and letting go? I think both are important...

Abu-Salman;912920 wrote: Had read about how crucial friendship is and how modernity has eroded it (relations are seen as key to health, happiness etc); our elders used to treat friends like close family. Friendship not built on spirituality and mutual encouragement towards good is doomed and superficial by definition (the rest should and can be overlooked with greater wisdom). You are describing the Islamic concept of friendship? Should we aspire to that then?

Apophis;912846 wrote: I'm liking your (mostly) intelligent threads Qansax. Keep em coming. And I'd make Alpha my "situational friend", the situation being Doctor-patient in an insane asylum. Kkk. Thanks for your back-handed compliment Apophis; very British....reminds me of Yes Minster! and Yes Prime Minister!

Aaliyyah;912843 wrote: What do they say, love all but trust a few.You only need few close friend that you can trust wholwheartedly. Arabs have a saying if there are too many cooks the soup gets spoiled. The more friends you have the more superficial those relationships will be. Aaliyah I am not talking of acquaintances, heck if I beat every bush at least 3 acquaintances will jump out of it - even the school janitor can be an acquaintance and yell "hey buddy" across the hall. When you go shopping at the local mall, you wil meet many acquaintances going about their businesses and you stop and exchange some pleasantries - howdy, howz the weather, did you fix that lawnmower of yours, howz the wifey/husband - and off you go. In my own private life, in schools and workplaces, I know at least half the schoolmates/workmates and consider then acquaintances. I ain't talking of that sis; am talking real friendships here...

Alpha Blondy;912839 wrote: friendship is an ideal and value so sacred but a little overused these days. long terms friendships are particularly important. but new friends can also be important as you can learn from them. friendship should be based on strong companionship, trust and loyalty. that's what i think. It gets even worse when you throw in FB and Twitter friends...

somalee;912835 wrote: I'm deeply fascinated by the concept of ''Friends for the sake of Allah''. Unfortunately I have never had such a friend in my life. Someone to constantly remind you of Allah whenever you go astray and yet whom you can have an intelligent discourse with. Not the current wadaads who constantly nag you with Palestine and how the west is conspiring against Muslims, those who think the mention of ''girl'' in a conversation will lead to hell. I think friendship for the sake of Allah is transcendental. I remember once I was in Kenya and my aabo calls me and tells me to pass by the grave of his long time friend and pray for him, recite some quran on it. That kind of friendship which transcends even death. I had one, he was brilliant - would lead us in prayer, Qur'an constantly on in his room, woke up at 3am in the morning for extra prayers and all. Unfortunately he back-slide and run off with the village beauty...Now he can't look me in the eye. Perhaps we had put the poor chap on a high pedestal and it was impossible for him to stay up there. There was another potential candidate, but I felt he judged us sinners (fasiqiin) too much. He wouldn't say anything, just smile in a creepy way, we just drifted apart and now we bump into each other at mosques and we keep saying we should meet up for lunch, reconnect, yada yada, but nada, nothing happens!

She stood there, in all her glory. Full sensuous lips, full figure, tall, dark, hair reaching up to the small of her back, teeth as white as fresh milk against dark gums; the quintessential picture of a true African Queen. Except for one small detail; she was a lady of the night. She blinked twice and sauntered into the dark alleyway where the red tail lights of a waiting car blinked. Perhaps a client? I was soon startled out of my mind's wanderings by the hooting from the next car. I had stopped in traffic to stare at her as I waited for the lights to change, but completely forgot. Why are you staring at the Cabiid, my companion asked, Cabiid being the derogatory word Somalis use to refer to other Africans with "coarser hair". Out of a strong sense of racial pride, most Somalis regard themselves as a race unto their own; neither black African, nor Arab, no Caucasian. We went into the usual routine of me standing up for the Cabiid and of her into her righteous indignation that I should countenance the fact that we were all African, whichever way you sliced it. I went into the usual anecdote of how in the Qurbaha nobody cared for my Somaliness; the white woman across the street always saw me as a black man, out of instinct, the white woman would invariably clutch her bag tighter on my appearance. For some reason, this particular anecdote seemed to have a more reassuring effect on her today than usual. I wondered why...

oba hiloowlow;912806 wrote: lol thats where i got the nick from Yes, yes, yes. That's it! Thanks for the reminder! So do we have an "ow geedi shambow" in SOL lol!