<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> That's the saddest thing that I heard you say. Why ?

<cite> @gooni said:</cite> first i don't prefer adoonsi to any one except allah scondly why you prefer kenyan adoonsi? thrdly are you male or female? i prefer it because, Islamist Adoonsi is the worst form of oppression i can think of. Worse than North Korea, a suffocating, capricious, thuggish, arbitrary, hyper violent, medieval horror show akin to pol pot rule. Don't ask me though, ask the the Somalis who have lived under the tender mercies of the tyranny of AS in southern Somalia and the Sunnis of Anbar and Mosul who welcomed Daacish in hopes of ridding themselves of Shia rule, they regretted their decision instantly .

^ I prefer kenyaan adoonsi to AS/daacish adoonsi. how about your gooni ?

This is painful runti, rip to these people.

"Somali security forces have retaken control of a popular beachside restaurant in Mogadishu after a deadly attack there by Islamist militants. The gunmen had approached the restaurant from Lido beach on Thursday evening, firing on diners. Twenty people were killed. Militants also detonated two car bombs nearby." http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-35377484 ^ Eebow! Che, bal ka waran nimankaan ? You thought they were some kind of nationalist force when they massacred the Kenyan soldiers, heh! Those thugs have no fealty, son.

<cite> @gooni said:</cite> they occupied other country and become fat chicken xabad brother mix feeling? are we talking love story this a war millatery and their enemy nimankaan afka duuban anagana nagama celin karaan ayaguna iskama celin karaan. Way iska celin karaan, hadayba halaq galeenkooda - kismaayo - ka saareen. But this is big set back for the Kenyans, no doubt. AS showed they're still capable deadlyspectacular attacks like this, and Liido today, but they are weakest they have ever been. My only fear is the kenyans will lash out and kill more Somalis, that is the modus operandi of these cowards.

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> How this different than the colonial missionaries or even today's missionaries fanning out to all over the world? I am reminded of When the missionaries arrived, the Africans had the land and the missionaries had the Bible. They taught us how to pray with our eyes closed. When we opened them, they had the land and we had the Bible. Jomo Kenyatta Give the Syrian his chance to take Germany . Wax falan! Give the Syrian his chance kulaha! You can spread any religion you like: Bhuddism, Hare krishna, Christianity but not Islam. Nobody wants the religion of Daesh in Europe most prosperous and cultured state, what the hell do they have to offer ? Nothing but backwardness, suicide bombing and female subjugation, Get outta here!

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> Kenyans get owned. http://www.hiiraan.com/news/2016/Jan/wararka_maanta21-94579.htm After all these years, your'e still an AS sympathizer, that much is clear from your gleeful post. I have mixed feelings about these massacre, part of me is glad Kenyans got their comeuppance for mistreating and killing our people, on the other hand, i don't wish those cretins to bask in any glory.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go6HDTaC3Yg ^ Muslim migrant to Europe explains his real motivations. That dude's demeanour and vibes screams terrorist.

<cite> @Illyria said:</cite> I actually threw you a life-line but you missed it. you were prancing all over as if there is no tomorrow. anyway if you feel wronged or thrown under the bus, xaal qaado. i will ignore the the last line. Illyria, our Turkish friend is new to the internet forums perhaps, he is easily flustered. Nothing offensive was directed at him.

Maximus powers was such a craven and pathetic alter ego, won't you agree. A smarmy black white supremacist, so nauseating. Remember when you use to dickride churchill the bulldog faced unrepentant colonialists and black hater, that surely will go down the annals of ignominy. I agree with your sentiment on hollywood and black actors by the way

<cite> @Illyria said:</cite> Bosmanoglu, Ignore the trolls. This Xabad character comes across as if a prowler in the pauper house with little misinformation. in his last post, i think he was complimenting the Turks and the expression which alluded him was "big-headed" and not "pig-headed" unless that is what is common in his circles, in which case, as i said he is a coaster in the tenement with very little in the cerebral compartment, and could do with more history lessons. just see if you could make sense of his argument about the Democrats in the US. A word to the wise, if you want to engage Somalis, you must come armed with a thick skin and be ready to be confused. Out goes historical facts, rationale or research-based data. just like trying to have a sensible conversation with your average Merican. For what it is worth, i do not follow Turkish involvement in Somalia, good or bad, and could not comment on its engagement. i would say however Erdogan is a hero and has done what others could not in the case of Somalia. Somalia is a shite experiment for African despot. how the mighty has fallen. so anything Turks or other muslims do are more than welcome. i'd rather be wronged by the well-meaning, even if thieving, muslims than the deceitful evangelical missionaries or their well-fed pagans. :D Shame on you, throwing a Somali brother under a bus to mollify a foreigner. Such cravenness has become dejure for your ilk anyways, i will let you cook.

<cite> @Bosmanoglu said:</cite> :D ok. this childish passing over the ball, changing profile names to say something, using offensive name callings, etc. Really I started to value and quality of discussion on this forum. If you are illiterate to read what is written and argued, instead providing chilldish arguements, your strategy to pollute and dilute contributions is sick and childish. You are a shameful person to call someone pigheaded. And if you and your kind dominate this forum, I think I should rather be somewhere else. You need to learn how to discuss, argue, share with a genuine curiosity and courtesy. This is called manners, civilised attitude, minimal intellect etc etc.. Think of those. I am very sorry that I took you seriously and answered your pollutive question. You are a total waste of time, shame for your culture and what that stands for. I wish you success on your endeavors in your petty tribalistic world. Be with Allah and away from normal people. You weren't personally insulted, stop the petulance.

^ Witness how this government increased its seats and authority by appealing to anti Kurdish sentiment. they got mandate to declare war on their own citizens; the south east is war zone like iraq and syria with atrocities committed by turkish special forces regularly, people dying of starvation and lack of treatment. Charity begins at home, a brutal despot squashing fellow muslims at home portrays himself as saviour to african muslim half way around the world.

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> Majority of them did (or at least they didn't have guts to say no)! They voted for the authorization of the Iraq war, Hilary included. It is only when the sh!t hit the roof that they started to criticize Bush. Excellent point, Che! Yeah, Naagtaan Xune democrats hor boodaysa - Hillary clinton, I can't stand her, she is very hawkish, and is a Dino - democrat in name only. I think only Obama was against the war, that is one big reason he won the presidency. But the general population was anti war, most were decent people who were against the injustice, but the elites are disconnected from them in many other issues. Turkey is different every Turk bays for blood when his government is involved with foreign countries. They are hyper nationalist and pig headed in their allegiance, party affiliations go out the door, very immature and medieval mindset.

Bosmanoglu, I thought you said you didn't vote for Erdogan, but here you in full battle mode defending his criminal foreign policy in Syria. What gives ? American Democrats didn't support Bush in his criminal war against Iraq, that is what is expected of you.

In their defense i have to say the Duas are quite euphonious and rhythmical. I agree with philosopher Arendt’s thesis that evil comes from a failure to think, and therefore it defies thought itself. She referred to this idea as “the banality of evil.” " In Arendt’s interpretation of Nazi history, Adolf Eichmann did not display any original thoughts of his own. It was this sheer banality of existence, she claimed, that allowed him to become the chief orchestrator and faceless bureaucrat of the Final Solution, one of the most horrific systematic mass murders ever known to mankind." "She said that there was nothing demonic about Eichmann, that he was just a careerist. Yes, she claimed, he was anti-Semitic, but it wasn’t central to his identity. So one might see the word banality here as mediocrity. Still, her thesis exploring how genocide can be carried out by very average people is a powerful one,” says King. Arendt also insisted that Eichmann lacked any moral imagination, says King." “She didn’t mean that he was dumb. But rather that he couldn’t imagine himself in the position of the other. And that is a more powerful notion of banality: this idea that a person has no sense that they live in a world with other people,” he says." All of these greasy Syriacs are just mumbling ritual songs they memorized, its without context or thought. Herd or mob mentality also plays a factor, absurd things when done by hundreds of people becomes cool.

<cite> @Bosmanoglu said:</cite> And your Syria allegations are bit boring. Within last weeks, we had Sultanahmet bombing by Daesh, yesterday a school was hit by mortar and a schoolgirl killed in border town. Our artillery send 500 shells killing 80 daesh members in response. (US defence spokesperson was jumpig up and down with joy, marvellous operation just marvelous, yeayyy) Our troops in Iraq engaged daesh just recently killing 18 of them. And yet you still amaze me by insisting on our support to daesh blah blah. Facts contradict to this awkward dreamworld that you obtained from ostrich british media. Bosmanoglu, Journalists Erdem Gul and Can Dundar of Cumhuriyet were imprisoned after exposing Turkish intelligence services sending weapons and ammunition to Islamist rebels fighting the Syrian regime. Please answer that

<cite> @Alpha Blondy said:</cite> i've always used the Somaliland passport to travel. i've never applied for British passport. the SL passport was enough to travel, despite the lengthy waiting times and the constant background checks at airports. re: leaving SL. - too much of something can be ruinous. its often quipped meelna lagumo raago, you know. it was an amazing 5 years. now the real work begins. so much to do, explore and achieve, abti. Marcas smith your still a loony fella after all these years. i was about to entrap you, cause i am in around ATL.

<cite> @Bosmanoglu said:</cite> First, you know little about how NATO works. This organization is beyond political and beyond military. It is deep into industries and economies as well as "deterrence". Turkiye is manufacturing dutch air defence, most of american F35 fighters, french helicopters critical parts, spanish ships backbones etc etc. The tiniest defence industry agreement is 20 year long like Sikorsky helicopter, pratt whitney engines, f16 fighters etc etc. Plus Turkiye maintains second largest nato army,navy and airforce, first in Europe. We have 80 nuclear missiles on our soil 40 of being ours, 40 US's which is backbone of NATO's nuclear deterrence. We host nato radar bases that covers romania till poland without which both countries is vulnerable to missile attack. So on so forth. So whoever thinks Turkiye will be "kicked out" from NATO is a misinformed person. It would be like all the western block shooting to their own heads. Plus, there are historical reasons of Turkiye's involvement, 5000 martyrs left in Korea, 70 year long cold war defence etc etc. Plus demographics is key factor. On a mobilization, we can round up 25 million strong army all under 30 years of age. Very few countries in the world is demographically capable of that. Yesterday I watched a seminar from a brit university on Central Asian politics. On that lecturer said, Russia's export item is "corruption". An american has said years ago that Turkish export item is "military and military discipline". These are few words coming from pros that express nation's political, social, economic cultures, hundreds of books in one word. Thats why our relations with Europe is a love&hate relationship. They dont want us because we are muslims but they cant do it without us. I know Turkey part manufactures relatively low tech military hardware for NATO member states, including the F 35, but still isn't in the big leagues of say France, Britain, Germany or even Sweden. Expulsion will not be overnight, rather a deliberate drawn out disengagement and downgrading of relations. I don't believe NATO upper echelon entrusts Turkey with critical intelligence at this point. History won't count for nothing, when Turks are busy arming terrorists in Syria and become a liability for the alliance in general. Turkey has an impressive military on paper, but so does North Korea and Pakistan, the important criteria is technological edge, Turkiye is lagging behind in this regard. Considering they wanted to procure Chinese missile defense last year - another source of friction with NATO, by the way - is clear they are behind. Power lies not in just crude manpower and hardware. Turkiye is still small kebab, evidence its failure in Syria.

so your a woman, thought was dealing with a faarax different expectations for you, i am sure they are still business geared to women you explore. bye

<cite> @realsomali2016 said:</cite> Xabad...adiga tacsi lee wadaa hhhh sidee aan kuu gu sheegaa my business idea wax kaste waaba kaso horjeedaa. i am just telling the unvarnished truth sxb, i know so many people who got burnt and are back to square 0. importing of foodstuff like aasad ie wheat an s sugar waxaa xirtay casabo and you can't enter it, monopoly. if you want good news the only place i could invest would be land and then resell after some time, can't think of anything else that would work there. its all of somalia not mogadishu only. i am trying to learn auto repair, so that after a few years when i relocate i can open a legit garage not macmal wax ah. the money is in these types of ventures, anything that requires a little expertise and khibrad is like dinosaur status over there. people are lazy , sit all dayr sip coffe and chit chat instead of exerting themselves and actually getting fulfillment from real work. Ganacsi soomali ma taqaan, yaan been laguu sheegin, you have to study business to succeed, i suggest you take business courses.

^ Add to that, there was a lot Garabeyshan for seats on these flights, you can understand why PL'ers breathed a collective sigh of relief at this development. Gooni's cantarbaqash is so transparent, he doesn't hide it. LOL, Xaqdi ha u dhiman.

<cite> @Bosmanoglu said:</cite> its a scare tactic from erdogan... his suporters claim that those hundreds of intellectuals took an order from PKK terrorist group and publish that declaration accordingly. Every soul in Turkiye knows that it is a fat lie. Yet it is enough reason for prosecutors to question these people. Nothing will come out of this obviously, but as I said, he wants to scare these people. Erdogan is known to be a "pinchy" person, pushing buttons of opposition that creates great upheaval. He creates polarization and harvests political gain out of these reactions and confrontations. We got used to it in years. Prosecutors report to Ministry of Justice, so they jump on what politicians say. Judges on the otherhand doesn't report to them. They Report only to High Court of Judges (which he messes with and puts psychological pressure on judges at times ) Which is unrelated to my post. He is pinchy indeed, remember when he injured a little boy with this fingernails and the father sued, he is a petty thug who always has this brooding countenance about him Bosmanoglu, there are reports NATO is preparing to kick out Turkey. what do you know about that ? The army base being built won't be helpful or bring peace because there is no national army, all the soldiers are from one clan. Like Iraq divided between Sunnis, Shias and Kurds, if you arm the central government your arming the Shias effectively, its the same case in Somalia. its very divided country, and any help that is no reciprocated across the different stakeholders will only increase antagonism and make Turkey a partisan supporter.

"Turkey has launched an investigation into academics who signed a petition criticising the military’s crackdown on Kurdish rebels in the south-east that angered President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. More than 1,200 academics from 90 Turkish universities calling themselves “Academicians for Peace”, as well as foreign scholars, signed the petition last week calling for an end to the months-long violence. Entitled “We won’t be a party to this crime”, the petition urged Ankara to “abandon its deliberate massacre and deportation of Kurdish and other peoples in the region”. It was signed by dozens of foreign luminaries and intellectuals, among them the US academic Noam Chomsky and the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek. Istanbul prosecutors launched the investigation, with the Turkish academics facing accusations ranging from “terrorist propaganda” and “inciting people to hatred, violence and breaking the law” to “insulting Turkish institutions and the Turkish Republic,” the official Anatolia news agency said" http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/14/turkish-prosecutors-investigate-academics-criticised-erdogan-petition Bosmanoglu, what is your opinion on this ? Why do Turkish prosecutors scurry like cockroaches to fulfill this madman's vendettas against everyone that says something against him. Where is the judicial independence ?...does he want to imprison everyone who criticizes him, they won't be room if he keeps this up, even Putin doesn't go as far.