<cite> @somalee said:</cite> Since you are the 'expert' in this, mind explaining the variations in the genetic make-up of Somali-Ethiopians and Somalis from Somalia. A person from Gaashaamo and his cousin in Burco or Cerigabo are different in their DNA? Or one from Af Dheer and his cousin in Af madow? How did one group of the same family on the other side of the border end up different? This is total bullshit. Nooo! :mad: I thought i already explained to you, there is no difference. This classification was purely for experimental purposes. scientists involved clarified it too.

<cite> @Miyir said:</cite> Generalizing People and cheering each other, just reeks of ignorance and stupidity. I met many Somalis that will fit your description. you're using a blanket term to cover individuals.its very disappointing to see being displayed here by people who should know better!!!!!! Unfortunately its true. Your the first Somali to come to their defense, maxaa jira adeer ? Your married to one. They have their positives too.

<cite> @Tallaabo said:</cite> I agree. Xabad should first explain to us who the "xabashis" are before we can discuss their supposed huuro. Your average generic Ethio Qashin, not including Oromos or any Muslim group. Mooge and Somalee touched on it, its the Orthodox ones that reek

^^ Putin will say Russia has strategic interests in Syria. They have a naval port in Tartus. Assad has been a loyal dog of theirs for all these years. He was also vehemently opposed to the deposing of Ghaddafi, afterwards he vowed Assad will not face the same fate. As a dictator himself, he is threatened by the overthrow of another dictator. It's said he was so panicked when President Viktor Yanukovych of Ukraine was deposed, that he threatened to use Nuclear Weapons. Algeria is safe, so is Egypt, Saudi Arabia is too big to fail as far is IC is concerned, it's demise is far off into the future. Sudan and Djibouti are African basket cases for whom one would bat an eyelid if they disappeared from the map tomorrow. I am afraid for Turkey. Mark my words, Erdogan is a deranged man and will lead Turkey to disaster. He is balling beyond his league, behaving recklessly. Turkey under him is rapidly becoming a Pariah state. Big bully Putin scuppered his Buffer Zone plan; which really was an excuse to crush Syrian Kurds. Inside Turkey, he is brutally massacring their brethren in the South East, while hectoring to the world about the plight of the Syrian Sunnis. Obama is blameless in all this. Leave him alone.

^^^ Miyir, your functionally illiterate in genomics. :lol: I may have to start a crash course for you. That is why data is the best. Xariga lagu xiray ninkaan isagaa gacmihiisa kuwatay.

Must feel like the apocalypse if your Syrian Sunni, assailed from all sides by pitiless enemies. Aerial bombardment, siege starvation, disease, Shabiha, Daesh etc. Their suffering is incomprehensible, its numbing. We got off easy by comparison.

Bidhaamis

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> In retrospect, these dictators were godsend. Just think about Libya. You can't be serious ? Assad is a godsend ?

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> They tend little more expensive. In any case, I now object Somalis calling my fellow bantus jareers hehe :-) But I don't object them insulting Arabs though. I told you Che, we ( Somalis ) are getting more Afro conscious by the day. The generation before us were obsequious Carab Sheegato, the pendelum has firmly swung the other way. Some like Miyir have gone off the deep end and claiming full black status now. :D Your Bantu could be attributable to your Boqor clan lineage, who knows.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has said that he intends to retake "the whole country" from rebel forces. In a rare interview, he told AFP news agency that defeating the groups ranged against him could take some time due to the involvement of regional powers. World powers have agreed to push for a cessation of hostilities in a week's time. This ignoble rat riding the back of the Russian bear and Iranian mercenaries thinks he can take back all of Syria. Deluded chinless despot. Mr Assad said European governments had caused the migration crisis "by giving cover to terrorists in the beginning and through sanctions imposed on Syria". "I would like to ask every person who left Syria to come back," he said. "They would ask 'why should I come back? Has terrorism stopped?'." He really has a mental defect. Mr Assad rejected recent accusations by the UN that his government was guilty of war crimes. Earlier this month, UN human rights investigators said the Syrian government had carried out a state policy of extermination against thousands of detainees. The depth of cynicism is just gob-smacking. He will go down in history alongside Pol Pot, Hitler, and Stalin. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35561845

Both are Qashin, tbh. It seems Soomaalida dhan are trying to the copy that Dhaanto format from Kilinka 5'add. How original !

You need experts to interpret it for you, those results they give lay people are very vague and superficial. They are some specialist genetic sites one can upload their results che, you need deep interpretation wich you won't get with likes of 23andme.

Godlatay

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> I did one and I was surprised. We are not as unique as we think we are. At least, I am not. Regardless, we are mashed together, the only identity we have now is being Somali. I don't know about them giving it to the Government. But they do use it for research though you can opt out. In any case, the results will not be difficult to get hold of. what supervised you ?

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> Did anyone of you have their DNA analyzed? I was planning on doing just that last year, but the news came out they put your DNA in database accessed by the government. I was put off.

<cite> @Mooge said:</cite> niyoow ethiopian people use strong zigny spices in their foods and it comes out when they sweat and during cooking the strong smelly spice coats their clothes and body and when they go out everyone can smell. they also have very poor hygiene, they pee on the streets and don't brush their teeth as much. overall, they are very smelly and have very poor state of cleanliness. they are not very well-brought up people in general. its all about the cultural upbringing. No doubt. They have their own trademark funk. :->

<cite> @Asad Ahmed said:</cite> xabashi is a broad term, WTF is broad about it ???

<cite> @somalee said:</cite> Xabad that is very true. I think it has something to do with their Orthodox faith. They rarely brush. The Habeshas who prescribe to other forms of Christianity like Catholicism or Protestantism are different . Maa saas baa ? Cajiib, so their faith has something to do with it.

<cite> @Miyir said:</cite> Xabad you have a long way to go, dont be fooled, all the links he is using is known racist who manipulate date. Example: North African and East African DNA? there is no such thing (laughable the extant people will go to misled). Somalis are predominantly East African haplogroup E1b1b so are the north africans. The xamari guys he posted carry a typical Somali DNA 70 to 85 percent haplogroup E1b1b. Somalis are least mixed people in Africa. Second highest haplogroup is T or more then 11% of Somali males, the Fulani or fulbe of west africa also have this haplogroup %17 still an african DNA in my book. Somalis are less then ~2% East or West asian whatever West Eurasian . " at you have long way to go." Adeer, you gonna have to come with hard facts, there is no room for subjective bile here. Haati burhaanak. We have autosomal DNA and PCA results which confirm that indeed Horners are mulatto populations. Maxay dadkaan markasta xajirnimada ku falaan horta, either their Carab or fully African as per this fella. Common sense and your eyes tell you the obvious. Have you noticed how Sudanese kinda look like horners, and their biracial ancestry isn't in doubt there are more recent result of admixing between Arabs and Africans. I was classmates once with a half caste boy: Father southern Sudanese and Mother Russian, people thought we were brothers, he looked Somali. So, I challenge you to bring the data that proves we are indeed less than ~2% West Eurasian ?

<cite> @somalee said:</cite> Xabad that is very true. I think it has something to do with their Orthodox faith. They rarely brush . The Habeshas who prescribe to other forms of Christianity like Catholicism or Protestantism are different. What ??? Has anybody befriended them and told them to clean up their uskag. I will make it a point from now to ask them.

Dacar i know this word means something bad LOL

The Interestingly Fraudulent Nature of Some Somali Arabian Geneologies http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-interestingly-fraudulent-nature-of.html Miyir you may be talking about a different blog buddy

Xaaji Miyir Read this post from that blog. http://anthromadness.blogspot.com/2015/07/horn-africans-mixture-between-east.html You see; as has been noted in several studies on our autosomal DNA (I'm a Somali); Horners like Somalis, Amharas, Oromos, Tigrinyas, Xamir Agaws and Beta Israels / Ethiopian Jews are quite West Eurasian admixed West Eurasian doesn't mean Arab ! ...and i hope you understand what autosomal DNA means. This graph shows the percentage of non african genes in us basically, it stands at 38.4 % we're seemingly the result of ancient mixing (seemingly episodic in many senses) between West Eurasians and a currently "extinct" African population. ^^^ Here is crux friends. If you read that article well and digest it, that is it, you have the understood the genetic genesis of Horners. You don't need Sheeka baraley anymore about some Carab fore fathers and what have you. Yes some of our fore fathers came from Asia but that time scales are very ancient, the people we now call Arabs probably weren't even in existence then. They interbred with a now extinct people whose closest relatives today would be Nilo Saharans or Nilotes. Hence my thread title postulating we and southern Sudanese are related.

Seenyoon

It times like these I appreciate Somali people, for all their other faults. You sit next to them and mashallah udgoon, they keep a good hygiene.