I had a thread in my mind called " Biciidkaan Dili Doono" but since you presented this question I will postpone my ideas. Tallaabo ,Waad Asiibtay. We have enough Dictators among SOl residents, I am one of them. Dictatorku ciduu noqonayo waa suaal meesha taala. Dr Kennedy, you have some valid points on the elders and the revolutionary guards, but your ideas have failed before you even started the question. First you proposed Somaliland to be fragmented on clan lines and then break down Somalia ( dalka in aad kala dirto). I read your extensive debate with Xaaji Xaanjuf this week. Xaaji is a tough opponent who also knows history and culture. It seems he convinced you that a total separation is the only future. By giving up that easily you weakness is apparent. Also you are expecting others to build your army and navy. you did not provide any meaningful ways to raise any revenue within the country. Every Somali want free money to build the country, that is why these Presidents are in the airplane as soon as they proclaimed President. As I said. I do not want to share my ideas at this moment because I could be one of those Dictators Tallaabo mentioned.

It is a good stuff as a sermon. At the same time, the time to play victim and blame your problems to others have passed. I have lived enough in America to see real causes of African American problems, and I have witnessed the latest Somali youth gangs. large number of Black American men do not raise families. They may get marry but they do not stay married. Single mothers are raising children by themselves. It is all about neglect. While the universal status of the black people may reflects the attitude of the people you are dealin with, it is not an excuse to give up or blame others for your short coming. Today in America , the black people have every advantage to succeed. The question is are they willing to work hard including the patience and sacrifices for the family unit.

GOONI, thanks for the advice. Dr. Osman, the Mogadishu issue must be addressed. In the real world, Governments function from save sanctuary, then expand to the places occupied by the insurgents. Since Abdi Qasim we have a government setting up shop in a hostile place, while more peaceful cities are available. I think, this is the last opportunity for Hag to stabilize the city or Somalis must move it to some where else. They have all the monopoly of power and resources. Xadhig isku dhiibkani waa in uu dhamaadaa. For the last election four out six candidates who won the largest votes were from Mogadishu and surrounding area. Shariif Ahmed, Hassan Sheekh, Abdiqadir Cosoble and Abdirahman Baadiyow. The only reason these four came up on top is by using the resource of the capital. They can move freely while others are constrained. I do not think it is possible to hold another election within Amnisom and Al-shabaab. Cadale , Saaxiib for the good and future of Somalia please give chance to someone else.

Iska ilooba, Hag iyo Sahal , Soomaali dambe ma boobaysaan. Enough is enough.

Nothing is funny here. If the Digil community in shbeele, the Watermaal and others agree with them, how can a small Hag community can deny this. Which village you want to carve . We discussed this bore, but it is difficult to carve some districst from Mogadishu and join them Lower an middle Shabeele. Taasi weeye taa soconayn. You have to make decision, Either vit will be the Capital of Somalia or A Hag province. All Dir politicians and Suldans are in Baidoa. the yhave agreed. Both the Hag and Sahal community must forget these so called two Hag and Two Sahal federal states. Saaiib la idinka yeeli mayoin aad magic dawladeed iyo mid Kenyaati a ax ku booaan.

they think government means having big buildings called Wasaarado. Do you remember six floor buildings in Mogadishu resided by Wasaaradaha. They can not open any hospital because they did not build one single. Ministry of public works means physically building roads, not having 200 employees with minister and directors doing nothing other than fight over the aid money. very day they open big buildings for useless ministries. The company I work have a sales of $ 20 million dollars a year and the staff of managers, sales reps, account managers and all of the employees of up to 100 use one floor divided by cubicles. If you ask these incompetent Kulmiye, how much did you spent in health care, roads, and schools? it could probably less than 10% of the whole budget.

Mooge, I never denied the presence of Puntlanders in Juba, especially the city of Kismaayo, but you can not have more participation than the Dir, D%m and others. I remember Ina C/rashiid was one of the five super delegates. Where are the Olol diinle community, Camel Lovers and others. Also those who live there can only be legitimate participants. I have seen people who never lived or have any historical ties leave from Canada and join the process as a delegate, just they happen to be Sahal. by the way the Raascaambooni Militia is not a puntlader.

What a useless article. Hebel oo basaas ahaa iyo wax la mid ah. Kuwani ma Al-shabaab ayey probagaando u fidinayaan mise war bay shhegayaan. miyey dhahaan dad maskaaiin ah oo xagjirku alaayeen iyo wax la mid ah.

Some ten years ago A Somali scholar was discussing the population and the demography of southern Somalia. I do not remember who conducted the census, but they concluded that the people who live between The lower Shabeelle , Jubbas and the inter river area of the south have more people than all other Somalis combined. when I asked him how did they come up with this conclusion? he said there are 400 villages between them. go figure. If you look Lower Shabeele, they have more densely populated districts than any one . Afgooye, Marka, Qoryooley, Baraawe, Janaale, Sablaale, Wanlaweyn, Buulo mareerto are all major disticts. Between Afgooye and Marko you have smaller villages lke # 50, shalambood and manymore. when the real elections come in force the future will belong to the good Somalis.

Certainly we all want peace and prosperity for all including the South West Region. Somalis only hear and know those who are loud. Even in Benadir, there are more people from Dir and D&m than some of the Hag communities from Indhacae clan. In Gedo , other than Garbahrey district, there are large number of people from D*m and the Bearded Community in Celwaaq, Baardheere and others. I never objected any community running Jubada Hoose, including the Long Foot , but you must be accepted by the other Somalis who live in the region. The Rascaambooni militia never ruled juba since the collapse of the Somali State. If you never ruled in the nineties, after 2000 or the last twenty years, what made you legitimate in 2013? of course Kenya. In Iraq, all concerned communities agreed that no army from Saudi Arabia, Iran or Syria should be allowed to stabilize, because of all of these neighbors have ulterior motives. But, in Somalia, there are rules or historical sensitivity to respect nor there is any honor to protect. Now, we hear the IGAD envoy to Somalia Mr. Mohamed Afey opposes the south West government. This is the guy who orchestrated and the designed both the formation of the Raascaamooni tribal militia and the invasion and occupation of Kismaayo by Kenya. Well Ahmed Madoobe may have friends in higher places, but the South west have the support of the majority of Somalis. Finally Dr. Osman , you are from Boosaaso and you had more delegates in the Juba conference than the indigenous communities from the land. Other than been member of the Sahal what connection is beteen Afmadow and Boosaaso. I hear some of you talk about some Hag elders challenging the inclusion of Lowe Shabeelle. well they are probably less than 10% of the population. They are Somalis and they can join if they wish.

You are right, the IC are designing the formation of these states. They will face some diddiculty in the short term, but , the Somali government does not have the power to stop. Remember , the government accepted JUbba after certain pressure was applied by Kenya and Igad. My suggestion is manage the Bay & bakool region intermediately and move to Jubada dhexe, then negotiate The Gedo partners to make it viable.

Just like Puntland this conference and the election was organized by Somalis for Somalis. The Juba Conference was organized and supervised by the Kenyan army. Without them Madoobe could not have been a leader. He was elected by 99% of the delegates. Madoobe Nuunow has the support of the Bay, Bakool, Shabaalaha Hoose, Jubada Dhexe, Some of Gedo and small part of Jubada Hoose. If he gains the support of at least five Provinces, it might work. It is not the Amnisom who decides Somali Federal States, it is the people. If having the backing of foreign militarizes can give you legitimacy, how about having the support of the Somali people. The inter river people have suffered more than any one else. In the early nineties more than three hundred thousands of them have died because of man made hunger. Unlike many corrupt Somalis who live off on the back of the state , these people live on the land and work hard. They did not have passports to fly to Europe or foreign land. They were the people the state suppose to protect. Very few people from Boosaaso, Borama, Banadir , Hargeisa or kismaayo died for hunger by thousands. That is one of many more reasons that we should not allow, illegal armed militia to rule over these people, let alone one backed by foreign army. Hassan Qoslaaye can not decide which one must be recognized. By the way the people of Puntland held their conference fifteen years ago and proclaimed Mudug, Nugaal, Bari, Sool, Sanaag and Cayn. They did not ask whether Gaalkacayo should be divided or not. They did not inquire whether Sool, Sanaag and Buuhoodle which was under different administration was possible to join the new federal state. well, after fifteen years, most of these provinces are outside Puntland administration. I hope President Nuunow will work hard to bring Jubbada hoose in due time.

Giyaajo iyo Ganjab, waar nimanku nmagacyadaN xagay kala yimaadeen. Idha adayg ayey wax ku darsadeen.

Laakiin they collect welfare and lie about their status always. This is what I call a petro Dollar culture. Saudi Ladies driven by foreign mostly Asian drivers. This is uniquely petro culture. do not listen to them. You could hardily find any one of them who have any life skills or good education. Ma helaysid qof reer magaal ah oo sidooda u fikiraya. Haddaad is qabataana Dhiigaaga markiiba way banaysanayaan. ka fogow.

We must push this Kulmiye guys to distribute the the aid fairly. We don't need Qurba meer, aan waxba soo kordhinayn. Ummada waa in si nabad ah la iskugu hayo. Af xuni colaad wax kaama taro nabadna wuu kaa fogeeyaa. Nabad baanu dooranay.

Waryaa Ciidan Suldaan, Why don't you quit the Somali-Somaliland debate and keep writing these geopolitical issues. I think what you saying really makes sense. If Ukraine goes, others inside the Russian Federation will implode. In Crimea the Majority of the Russians are TarTar Muslims,there are many more ethnic groups that are prosecuted in Russia. I know people complain about the excess of United States , but If a ruthless communist or Godless Chinese takes over, may God help us. For better or for worse America will be there. They accept their mistakes, they debate openly and eventually correct them. The election of Obama was America reversing it's Iraqi blunder. In Chechenya Putin murdered 80,000 people. no one can ask him or debate about the merit of that war. If you talk about it you might be even killed. I will take the U.S.a any time when it comes to the Russians or Chinese.

Xaaji warka waad Dhamaysay. We don't need problems. Let us stabilize southern Somalia. Meel aysan dhib Weyni kajirin maxaad Mushkilad ula rabtaan. Awdal waa nabad, Somaliland waa nabad. Inagoo nabad Puntland oo nabad iyo Koonfur oo nabad ah aan ka shaqayno.

Walaahi waad il dheer tahay. calaamada waxad moodaa in ay xaquuqeen ama masaxeen. Dadkani cida ay matalayaani Soomaali ma ahan

Walee laba kala daran, ma adigaa alifay.

Dittore , that is good news.

Mahiigaan, you are right. If you go one of these coffee shops, you will find easily Al-shabaab sympathizers and apologists.

Cajiib, there are no Al-shabaab military bases or huge presence in Puntland. Other than small skirmishes in Galagal mountains, it is mostly clandestine cells who Assassinate people. I mean it is law enforcement and intelligence issue. Why would they need Ethiopian troops in Puntland.

Haaheey, Mr. controversy, why don't you buy a real camera and get a job as paparazzi. she looks fine.

Wadaadka waalan, stop your useless propaganda. what a bunch of selfish savages. There might be a drone, so every one must suffer. Why not also shut the electricity at night ? the drone may see the house of the Al-shabaab leaders.