Sorry Kulmiye is 41,5%

Latest numbers received by parties last night Waddani Kulmiye m/jeex. 90,000. 110,000 Awdal. 61,000. 30,000 Togdheer. 84,000. 51,000 Saaxil. 22,000. 33,000 Sanaag. 43,000. 26,000 sool. 23,000. 25,000. Ucid 14,000 Total 48 .8% 42.5%. 9.7%

Also, you can not talk to specific media people who could be biased. Your only communication with public is official public address where everyone in the media is present. We know Hargeisa was counted already. What you doing is verifying the polling station results at the district or Hargeisa level. We know how many each party got through the party representative. Changes from the early results should be small.

Somaliland election commission should announce and tell people the preliminary results. They have done a great job, but this chairman and his side kicks must know that it is about time people see the early results from polling stations.This is not 2010 or even 2013, the Iris bio-metric system is efficient and it would be unusual for the early results to change. IN most elections, were vote counting takes place in the actual poling station, the results are already known. Their main task is official recount at the district level and resolutions of the disputed boxes. Because of the bio-metric nature of the system it will difficult to falsify votes or staffing of boxes. THe biggest incidents so far are people of Authority or in this case the Kulmiye government sequestering and stealing opposition boxes. In Hargeisa, the mayor, by the strange name of Solteco, with his uniformed body guards had taken some boxes claiming to be disputed boxes and transferring to the commission. In Gabiley the city rule and governing had collapsed long ago, most of the residents had moved to Borama, Hargeisa and Wajaale. Waddani "Muraaqibiin" are denied to escort the boxes to the district, if this is true this boxes must be either disqualified or investigated. During the last municipal election, Gabiley politicians and criminals took all the ballot boxes to unknown place and divided the city counsel cities among themselves. What they do not tell you is there are large Awdalites in north Gbiley, Ceel Bardaale , Bus, Kalabaydh and Wajaale, yet their votes were looted. The commission guy keeps repeating that the official counts at polling station level could change. This fool must know that unless disputed by anyone, the polling station counts given to the party representatives should not change that much. If a party gets 2300 votes in certain station that result may reverse few votes if those who were counting made mistakes. The commission chairman must not prolong the official announcement to another four days. He must release the early preliminary vote counts done by district level, unless he is cooking something. We need the early results. Waxbaa dhacayo iyo masiibadan aad ku celeclinayso looma baahnee, shaqadaada qabso oo halka ay wax marayaan noo sheeg. Mise wax aad karinaysaa oo jawaan lacag ah ayaa ina Aw saciid kuu balan qaaday?

Togdheer the stronghold of Kulmiye changed hands and that is big news. I do do not think a victory in maroodi jeex and saaxil would rectify the big loses in awdal ,togdheer and sanaag

If Kulmiye loses togdheer by these margins oh 60 vs 35. It is done deal. In my own math I thought saaxil would go to Kulmiye but with these small margin of 52 vs 45. Definitely Kulmiye lost the election

I am not sure about these numbers. How can ucid could pull off 44,000 Some gabiley district boxes brought back without the presences of waddani muraaqib must be disqualified

Preliminary result of the totals : Ucid. 44,000 kulmiye. 190,000 waddani. 230,000

They are still waiting the total from Waqooyi galbeed (maroodi jeex) , Burco and Borama. The total from major centers has to wait until late tomorrow . no more news. good night.

The only incident so far reported is that some gangs in Burco city had tried to steal ballot filled boxes from the opposing district and dump or throw the boxes to unknown places. In some of these cases the police had intervened and opened fire.

latest news from Wadadani operatives in western Canada. He told me that the counting of the votes had already taken place at 9pm local time. Almost all ballots in those polling stations were counted at the local place, and the total number of votes had been given to the party observers who were present. After the initial count the total number was communicated to the district, regional and national headquarters in Hargeisa. He said that those sealed boxes with the actual numbers will be brought to the district and a second vote counting will take place there. If there is any disputes, a third vote counting will take place at NEC offices in Hargeisa. The final announcement will take place Friday, November 17. The party observers already know how many votes they got from every polling station. According to Waddani people in Awdal headquarters they are leading in AWdal, Hargeisa city (not the region), Ceerigaabo and Berbera. In Awdal the early numbers show 71% In Berbera they lead 60 to 40% In Gabiley they are losing 23 to 75% Hargeisa City they lead 68%, 30, and 2% for Ucid. The Waddani guys are already celebrating and according to vice presidential candidate Mohamed Cali, he said, " We are winning with large margins". Let us wait until 10pm mountain time which is early morning in Borama.

MMA, I did mention in one of the earlier threads that when I traveled between Daafeed and Baidoa in the middle of eighties that the camel boys were tall with big afro hair like this guy. It fits well of A typical Somali nomad

Dahir, I am not in actual construction business, but I am a contractor that supplies construction sites and i do visit these sites daily. In this country of Canada the construction industry is 70 billion dollars business a year. It employs more than a million people. In fact the strength of the economy and the healthy economic activities depend the housing construction both on residential and commercial. In order for the construction business to take hold in a meaningful way and to be successful back home, this industry must be regulated and standardized by the local government and the business community. if there is any industry that distributes wealth and jobs to hundreds of different profession, it is the construction industry. First , the cities and regions must regulate the land in their jurisdiction and start with urban planning. They must divide their land in to residential, retail, commercial and industrial lands. Second, after people purchase a land for their house or for commercial reasons they must get a permit to build . They can only build on specific area and the city decides what type of building and shape takes place in that part of the town. You can not have a shanty house, bungalow and sky scraper in the same neighborhood. third, those who are involved in the building and the construction business must be licensed and regulated. Only Engineers, certified electricians and plumbers could only work in these places. Of course you may have unskilled laborers, but The more skilled people involve in the construction, they wage of the workers will increase. Beside all these regulations, the most important thing is city codes and regulations that generates most of the jobs and the skills to preform them. Unless there is codes and rules that needs enforcement , everyone will build his own shanty house and building as he wishes which in turn depresses the wages and eliminates the skills needed to do the job. Regulation means what kind of material should be used for the house and so on. Finally, in order for the regular people to afford and buy well built homes, a financing mechanism must be established. Citizens would put 25% or more down payment of the house and builders will collect the rest of the money on monthly payments with no occurring intrastate payments. If you combine the city and urban planning with the business community and the skilled construction association you could have a well regulated healthy industry . If most of these and other regulations and business models are implemented, the housing construction industry could create thousands of jobs throughout Somaliland and other places.

Holac, I know the guy, and He hails from Gabiley region. He probably anglicized his name in order to facilitate this project. I even had met some of those family members he sponsored. Almost all of them are from Gabiley and Awdal region. Since Manitoba has high unemployment, usually they move to Alberta.

By the way, Suldaanka Ceelka Hargeisa waa dadkii loogu yimid.

Doing justice for The Gabooye Community alone should give Waddani a big honor. They are the most hard working and as Proff. Samatar said few years ago that they are the original Somalis both in technical know how and their talented creating of original Somali play right. If you are a young bachelor Somali , please find one of those community and tie not. When I was young and 25 years old in Europe, wanted to court and eventually marry a girl from that community, but she was the one who got a cold feet and suddenly they immigrated before we could build any thing. Walaahi waan guursan lahaa haddii aanu heshiin lahayn. Qabiil iyo reer qurbaha ima keeni anigaa iskeenay, I would have given a hoot if they objected r not. For the sake of this community people should vote Waddani.

I hope it all goes peacefully. I am hearing that a large number of the youth did not register fr this election. Because of the bio metric nature of the registration Somaliland youth between and 18 years old and 28, did not register for fear of their actual identity could be accessed by European and other Western nations. Wiil kasta oo dhoof rajo ka qaba isma diwaan gelin. A friend told me that in Borama, in his own house hold about 9 youth from high school to university did not register. For them the opportunity of migration is more important for any elections. Also , in Awdal ,among the 145,000 registered in the spring 35% did not collect their registration cards. Thousands of citizens who reside Djibouti and has family on both sides of the border could not cross because of the $32 dollar border taxes. A family of could not afford to pay it's meager resources for the card. Among the 26,000 registered in Zayac district only 17,000 collected their card. If I were the election commission, I would watch Gabiley and Burco were most of the large frauds in Somaliland usually take place. In 2010, 360,000 registered in Togdheer, yet few months later only 120,000 voted. My instincts tell me that overall the number of voters might not even reach 600,000 if the system detects people who have double cards or the children who get registered despite their age being 10 or 12 years old. Any way let the party begin.

Dahir, Are they bluffing ?. Or this latest events will keep them for ever in Somaia.

Holac, Awdalites have tremendous opportunity to challenge the system and gain more in Somaliland than the Sool people who were under intense pressure from many sides fr the last ten years. Despite the dominant position of the SNM habro, I do believe that Awdalites could do more politically and economically. The people seem to be passive . When every CAli And Cumar in Somaliland was forming their own party , up to ten parties or more, non of the Awdal politicians formed one. We are probably less affluent than those in Hargeisa who looted the public purse, and that might hinder our political organizations, yet when opportunity is given, they do not take advantage. I saw a guy who was raising funds for vice presidential candidate for Waddani Mr. Mohamed Cali in the diaspora and he told me that he could not get any money even from those who hailed from the same town as the candidate. Waa gacantood go'day . Marka la yidhaahdo lacag ha lagu deeqo, gaar ahaan xaga siyaasada, Duriyadu waa deeqsiyiin. A politician will show up from Hargeisa and they could raise thousands quickly here in Diaspora although we might be weather than them. Siyaasadu waa waxii aad gashato, reer Awdalna ma rabaan in ay wax gashadaan, hadhowns way calaacalayaan. Also, when they are in power they do not exercise power or build capacity and alliances for future political challenges. Look at Hirsi Gaab, he was chief of staff of Siilaanyo for five years and now, he is the one who is bankrolling Waddani.

Anoo Kale, Holac has a right to state his opinion. He is calling for peace. If Somaliland is right on certain issues he will side with them, if they transgress he usually points their mistakes. What that has to do with " Qolomaa tahay?

Gobweyn, Jubada Hoose, Is this where the ocean meets the river?

This card buying thing could destroy the fairness of process. Man and women with bags of money are roaming villages and towns to buy the cards from poor people. This trick is mostly used by Kulmiye in Awdal, Toghdheer and Sanaag.

We need someone to explain to us what is going on. Presient Farmaajo last week visited Uganda and asked more troops, almost 5000 more, and now Amisom is withering a 1000 men. They may have been told to put up and lift their weight or leave. 22,000 men with the most modern equipment and they could not defeat a rag tag Al-shabaab army?. Give me a break.

Every one will tell that there are more officers in Mogadishu than real soldiers. They all should leave Mogadishu.

Mooge, This guys got a lot of toys, and those they fight ride small technicians. I said many times and I will repeat again. One Thousand mechanized and well paid Somalis would do the job. The unemployment in Somalia is 75% or more. Give these young men their dues and will do the jobs. By the way, these troops have abandoned these towns and villages they are trying to recapture just for the last ten months. Even MArka Caddey has changed hands twice last year. Aar yaa Hubka nooga qaada, mishaarkoodana nagu wareejiya. If real pressure is applied they might clear most of these towns like they did last tie, and then Somali soldiers should take over.