Sometimes when are facing a problem or having doubts in something it's simply more easier to deny the reality on the ground then face life with it's harsh and unfair challenges. Even Hitler´and his close associates chose to deny the un-deniable fact that allied troops, mainly Russians were closing in to Berlin. Despite his delusions of hysteria and mad speaches the reality on the ground ultimately caught up with him. Those close to him slipped out of the bunker in fear for their safety When the odor of the russians finally reached the bunker. Hitler himself found that his wife, Eva Braun was the only person left whom he could perform his charades of hysteria grand delusions. He finally killed himself. Delusions are not limited to Europeans. In 2006-2007 a friend of mine invited me for lunch. He had during the week been hired by a NGO group and was in a celebratory mood. We also wanted to discuss those dramatic events happening in Somalia. The ICU were openly exchanging threats with Ethiopia and the TFG was preparing for the Ethiopian peace-keepers. Clouds of war that Somalia is all to well acquainted with was approaching fast. Their was a newly opened Somali restaurant (ofcourse a black one..no permit) in the neighborhood so we went their. We had a delicious meal but our conversation was disturbed by people hailing "takbiir, allaahu akbar" from a small room near our table. My friend I tried to ignore the noise but we simply could not. I went their to see what the fuss was about, Approximately 20 men were glued to the BBC digital radio in the small fadhi-ku-dirir room. All of a sudden some one broke the news to me. A ICU top-man (I dont remember who it was) said that ICU had declared war on Ethiopia and that they would within 6 months pray Id-prayers in Addis Ababa and so was the beginning of the sickness of grand delusions. Thousands of mogadishu students died in the dusty semy arid plains plans of Daynuunay and sacrificed themselves for the sake of Somalia. But in a bizarre twist to the story the leaders of the ICU disappeared and if I remember it correctly, one of them made Hajj pilgrimage after he had declared war. Yaab! nin aanan yaabin wuxuu dhahay waa yaabay. Instead of prayers in Addis Mogadishu fell in less then a week. More pain was inflicted upon Somalis, years of war and starvation yet the delusions continues and are now more dangerous. Even the players of war became more and more sophisticated. During the 80-90-ties we hid behind the names of different organisations all with the name"somali" in it. (USC, SNU, SNM SNA). What everyone knew but did not want hear was that they were keywords for clanism. Clanism was the pink elephant that you immediately noticed in a small room but to your surprise find everyone else in the room ignoring the elephant. you Then came the 2000, our religion of peace were hijacked by various jihadi organisations. People then rallied behind them, when you would confront one and say: Hang on a minute, did you say Jihad?, Who are you going to wage a jihad on,? Fellow muslims? The supporter would simply look at the sky as if doing so would make him invisible. Yaaab! once again, nin aanan yaabin wuu yaabay! The delusion of today must be the word and mantra federalism & maamul goboleed. It has entered every corner of our society. From the addicted khat eater and chain smooking Faarax with the bulging eyes to the single mother Xaliimo, what they have in common is repeating the mantra of federalism and maamul goboleed. As if federalism was the magic fix to Soomalia. What seems to be trendy today is the creation of bizarre maamul goboleedyo with toung twisting names as Mid-land &Azania. The 20+ war&chaos that we have experienced have made us in to chaotic orchs. No one wants to face the reality and smell the coffe. I remember 1,5 years ago that another mamuul goboleed was created with name Azania, a friend of mine told me that a reporter In Nayroobi asked Prof. Ghandi why he chose the name "Azania" as the letter "Z" does not exist in the Somali alphabet. Prof Ghandhi simply answered in a abrupt but honest way that he did not think that "z". in the name would be problematic. I wonder why no one pointedly addressed this issue to Prof. Ghandi during the conferance in Nayroobi. The trend with Heblayo-land and it's tongue twisting names continues while people are dying out of starvation. Men with delusional thoughts meet in dim rooms and proclaim clan-states on the internet while the reality on the ground is completely different. While we yesterday hid behind the names acronyms of organisations like U-Somali-C Somali NM and Somali-SSDF Somali-NU we now have the toung twisting lands. I wonder how much has really changed from those old days. Not much I guess but thats for you all to discuss.

I dont know why some people seem to be "chocked" hearing that someone has become a gaal. We somalis have allways had gaalos in our community and even atheist communists. But Allah tell's us a beutifull verse in the Quran. Allah says "antomol fuqara, wa huwal ghaniyul xamid". (it is you who are poor and he is the one who sustains. Acording to Mufasarinta: This means that it is we (humans) who need god, not vica verse, Marka gabadhaan iyada ayaa Ilaahay u baahan. Ilaahayna ha so hanuuniyo. Remember that even during the time of the sayidka, nabigeena muxammad scw we had non-belivers and hypocties. So let' just pray for gabadhan.

Blackflash;992202 wrote: That looks more like an M14 rifle than a Kalashnikov. Black-flash, oh well you get the message:D

The fruits of 20 years of ockupation is coming to an end. What Al-shabaab taught the locals is to arm themselves and not accept clan-ockupation. Wakhtigii dadka baraawe iyo marka iyo baardheere dagan biyaha laga gadaayay wey dhamaatay. Every somali is welcome to live in shabelle regions but not with force and clan supremacy. As sooner the brothers from "goboloda dhexe" understands this, the better it is. During 2000, from Gaalkacayo to Kismaayo, nothing seemed to stop the orchs, but I guess that they have understood that numbers do mater. They are, after all a minority in the south. The FGS should stop clan warfare then fanning it. The locals of the south should be supported rather then thoose who want to cling on to xaaran-property.

That rifle liberated many colonies from the hands of imperialism, in other words, the kalash balanced the art of war, the poor african could easily the former superior technology of the west. The Kalash is a magnificent invention, you could bury it and fire it without a problem 10 years later. A picture tells more then a thousands words Below is a viatnamese female FNL soldier holding the gun to a 2 meter tall american soldier.

The struggle of the classes and how capital rules the life of many is allways relevant. I do not agree with him in his materialistic assertion on religion. The guy influenced me in his explanation why some are opressed and some not. I

The Latin alphabet is good and international. We have to remember that Somalia was very poor during the 70-ties when it adopted the latin alphabet, if they would have taken the arabic alphabet think about the how many new "arab" keyboard type writes they would be forced to buy. The Somali linguists had good to reasons to why they did not the Arab alphabet

What ever he was, He was a man of opinion. During his time, the rule of law meant that white people were superior to the blacks. This was even the norm in Europe. The man refused to abide the norms and begun a revolutionary struggle. For all of you here in SOL picking on Madiba should ask yourselves what you would have doe if you were a young blackman in South-Africa during the 1950-60. Would you follow norms and live a quite life or would you begin a revolutionary struggle that would put you in prison for 25 years. Even I disagree with Madiba on many things (who does rally agree 100% of things), He will always be my hero, and AFRICAN HERO! The black man who broke and destroyed the regime of apartheid. Noolow Madiba!

This is an upright biliqo of houses belonging to the banaidiri-community and the d-block who fled from Mogadishu. Who is Tarzan to legitimize un-lawful take-over over houses beongning to those who fled from the civil war. Why does not he instead call for the ******** to return the the looted houses to it's rightful owners. Taarzan needs to go and needs to do it quickly.

Saferz you wrote a interesting essay., I see that nation state has no "muqadissnimo" for you as you chop it down in your marxist analysis, a good thing though is that your not ruled by "dogmas". I have to commend for that. As for the thread I do believe that "somali-ness" is a religious-ethnic identity. Why on earth should we abandon or dismantle one of the most precious things that our parents gave us--- mainly IDENTITY. Even the Xaaji Xunjuf, the afro-hashemite does not deny somali-ness. As for politics, that's another topic, Somalia as a nation state was not invented, remember that Somalis existed before the arrival of the whites. History did not begin when the whites came or when the whites gave us our hard fought freedom, therefore per logic "Somalia" was not invented. The same could be said about Britain, the days when queens and kings ruled in Britain can not be compared to these days when men/women from working class are shaping the countries future. Does this mean that Britain became invented? We needs to read Edward Said We have yet freed ourselves from the chains of orientalism. Anyways that's what I could muster to refute! Ogowna waad iga xanaaqsiisid. Soomaliya xaaladeeda waad u jeeda, soomalinimadana hadaa CHOP CHOP la gareeya maxaa soo haray lol! But I do agree with you on one thing, Somalia is a nation mixed in it's different life-styles, Orientalists as I. Lewis have contributed to the false idea of Somalis only compromising of pastoral nomads. Their is unique mixture of a sedimentary-pastoral life style in southern Somalia. The cultural exchange and influence between these very different lifestyles has given Somalis a unique culture. Maybe we need further information how these inter-cultural influence is making itself present today`? The Only Somali intellectual that has smashed this false history must be the savannah based Professor Mukhtar Omar Mukhtar. His influence is being felt today and I belive many more will understand him in the future.

SomaliPhilosopher;926485 wrote: Being "nomads" is something we take great pride in as Somalis. Though it appears it is a lifestyle and culture that is slowly coming to an end as we emulate this "reer magaal" lifestyle. Perhaps it is in Somalia's best interest to reinstate this nomadic culture as it is an integral part of the Somali identity. I am hereby proposing a national service program geared towards requiring city dwellers to serve 1-2 as a true Nomad. The participant shall be provided with a geel and sent to a certain region, very similar to the national service teaching program. One of the outcomes of this program is to eliminate this social stratification of "reer magaal" and "reer miyi" and place people on a similar social status. Thoughts? Additions? Criticisms? Please share Somali Philsopher, you made an intresting point but I think we need the opposite!. In order to have a nation-state we we need is more urbanization and class-awareness rather then the opposite "tribal-awareness". Nomadic culture nourishes tribalism because of the harsh life-style and lack of resources. Kinship in its form of a clanism becomes the absolute dogma of survival. I dont see the point of returning to that yaa Faylusuufi. Let's be urbanized and sedimentary, by doing so the natural process of class-identity will triumph of Clanism, Marx is right on this despite being wrong on many other things. Let's have the opposite of a 2 years program of urbanization, during the socialist policy of Siyaad Barre, he introduced farmers from Soomali-Galbeed to the somali-bravaneese community. Many of the nomads who fled from the great famine of 1974 became successful fishermen and abonded the tribal mentality of the social fabric in the society. The urbanised community intermarried with the local population and still to this day live their.

Wadani;987948 wrote: If you don't want us to condemn Arabs, Wadani, simply because of I do not believe in racist remarks towards an entire race. The only reason that I posted it was to highlight the plight of those workers. Nothing wrong condemning the gross human right abuses towards those people but not everyone in the gulf is evil. I think you understand my point Wadani.

Cadale;987966 wrote: Adigana your not an ethnic somali go back to cumaan inaar. J/k LOL cadale, I suppose you prepared the boat? Buraha itoobiya markaad adi ku noqotid aan doonta qaadana

SomaliPhilosopher;987814 wrote: I hope there are more psychologist than physicists

Ridwaan;987943 wrote: No offense to anyone when I say this, I speak from lack of knowledge in Somali clans, but what is a bantu? They don't look like the average Somali. I don't mind having diversity in the horn. They seem quite interesting. The Somali Bantu are Somalis with a history in Somalia. They are hard workers and their region is the bread basket of Somalia. This is not directed towards you Ridwaan but this thread has seen a scene of xenophobia and racism that's horrible. I wonder how we Somalis in the west who face discrimination everyday can have the audacity to be xenophobic.

I never claimed that people are forbidden to pray at the mosque. And no, Saudi Arabia is not based on anything; just because someone is claiming it, doesn't make it true. Saudi Arabia deserves to be criticized as do all the other countries I've mentioned. just because someone is claiming it, doesn't make it true. Saudi Arabia deserves to be criticized as do all the other countries I've mentioned. Ditoore, Your man of ideal's and I love that but sometimes you need to smell the fresh coffee of realism. I have always loved ideals but sometimes they don't add up to reality. What I am trying to say ditoore is that islamic ideals with justice and piety is always good and ever lasting ideals but man is always doomed to fail by his temptations. It's a catchy phrase to say that Islam is the solution but when you ask that person further questions like "what do you exactly mean by that statement?, the answer becomes subjective, meaning that you can understand it in the way you want For a example, a Turkish AKP-supporter would probably also say your cathcy phrase but his way of understanding it, is far from Al-qaedas, or Taliban, or even the muslim brotherhood. outlook on the phrase. The turkish AKP islamists are far far away from the islamists of Al-shabaab. Do you see my point? Regarding Saudia Arabia, the only reason that I mentioned it was to make you understand how easy it is to use the beautiful name of Islam in order to boost up your credentials or even your politics. Did you know that Morrocos kings formal title is "Amiirul Mu'minin" (Commander of the Belivers). He legitimizes his rule by his claim by the formal "bayca" that take place in Morocco every year. You would probably object to his claims. Islaam, and faith in Allah is far above from the dirty realms of politics but it's ideals of justice and piety is everlasting. I have a firm belief that it is these ideals that will be a solution to our problems. So where do I stand in these issues? Well to begin with as I have said I have firm belif that the ideals of Islam is always needed in our society. We are lacking in education but we have a few countries that are a role model. Malaysia is a muslim countrey and are dynamic well functioning society. They were in the league of Africa in the 1960 but are now a high tech countrey that could be compared to the US or Europe. Let's find their recipe and how they did it. And Sheikh Qaradawi gave the answer. It's because of laziness and ineptitude, and because they turned away from their religion. I agree with you on this point, maybe we have failed the religious obligation to seek knowledge? I'am not an expert to say why arabs or even africans in general are in stagnation but quick answers would be apologetical factors like colonialism?. But so many years has gone since we attained our freedom, we cant simply always blame colonialism. And Egypt was not even 30% perfect during the time of Nasser and Sadat. Their countries were still poor, they still never produced anything, and they were whipped by the Israelis in several wars. They had nothing to boast about, and the reason why you may think this is because Nasser was a charismatic leader. But charisma doesn't mean results. And he got no results Your 100% correct, he failed in a sense regarding Israel but have you forgotten the suez crisis and how he managed to fight back imperialist aspirations? Another thing historically is that FNL in Algeria successfully one the war in 1963 at the cost of 2 millions dead Algerians. Nasser's anti-imperialist support and rhetoric was needed to ignite the Algerians, remember that France thought that Algeria was not a colony because of the 2 million french settlers. to sum it up, What I meant to say that Egypt's cultural influence is minimal in comparison to the 70-ties. I know you agree with me and Haatu here I probably agree with you in most issues but Haatu is another story. But this is so seriously off-topic. This is way too off-topic I agree but hey that is a discussion forum, marka ha la hadlo

I firmly believe that the reason why the Egyptians and the rest of the Arabs are in the state they're in.....is because they turned away from their religion and they sought to establish secular states, burying Islam so as to make it irrelevant. You've seen them establish their secular political parties (such as the infamous Ba'ath Party of Iraq and Syria) and look at what these policies have achieved in the region! Nothing but instability, poor economic performance, wars and the like. . Ditoore, I dont know if you have ever been to Egypt but nobody forbids you to pray in the mosque, Though if your trying to get power, weather your an islamist, secular or communist whats certain that you will rot in some prison cell. If Sheikhs were the answer then Saudia Arabia would be answer right? The constitution of Saudia Arabia is as they say 100% based upon Sharia. Just as your video of Qaradawi, I do agree with him that we have not seen even a needle being produced by the gulf. Nassers Egypt was not 100% perfect but during his time the arabs could draw some inspiration from it. They (Egyptians) have gone from inspiration to zero influence. Remember that Egypt is the bread basket and cultural capital of the arab World.

I was not chocked to see this, these horrible human rights violations do happen everywhere in the world, from the west to the east, but what's horrible is that a high ranking crown prince is directly involved in torture, and please. I wonder how these arabs are going to be when the oil runs dry. Another thing that struck me was that I was reminded of the investment-frenzy (DUBAAY) that struck the somalis in 2003-2006. Somali families were jumping on the plane and buying houses in Dubai. I dont know, but guessing by that video, an individual does not have so much legal rights in that countrey or less human rights. One thing is sure, I would not buy a house their. PS Please, No Violent racist remarks against carabtaani iThousands of Somalis do work and live in the Khaliij and sent very needed remittance money to their relatives in Soomaliya.

What's sad in this imperial game is the loss of Egypt with it's former glory within the Arab world. How dwarfed they have become since Nassers time.

I would tell them to invest more in general education rather then buy big toys Somalis love to talk big Weather it's in Hargeysa or Mogadishu, it's the same problem. Khat addicted nomads with weapons with a bizarre police uniform and no formal understanding of policiary work. PS: Xaaj according to international standards those who you want equip with aircrafts while lacking simple police radios are by legal definition "clan militia" and not policeman.

What makes me curious is what would have happened if the Soviet& Warsawa pact didnt intervene on Ethiopia's side. Somali troops and with its Soomali Abbo allies liberating Addis Abebba from Mengistu would have been a gamechanger in Ethiopias history.

Khayr;984594 wrote: The idea of having a proof for something to be true is a very modern and science based thinking. Deductive reasoning is very limited. You need Inductive reasoning to see patterns and confirm things. In hadith classification, a حديث can become stronger if there are other similiar hadiths that come to the same conclusion. For example, the hadith about having three daughters and two and one daughter. The conclusion being that raising one righteous child can be a ticket to heaven. (If I used a wrong example, then forgive me.) The deen is based on experiential knowledge. You can't understand anything without having endured and tasted. The Ahl al tasawuf are all about that. The bizarre thing is that Haatu says "bring the proof", it's a catchy phrase that sounds good. But how can I as layman without the basic extensive knowledge of the quranic verses (tafsir, sababu.nuzuul, hadith etc...) make a sound judgement, should I just go to the saxixaynand learn how to pray by reading random hadithes about salat?. Now, we do not. We learn how to pray by the way explained by the mujatahadin. Haatu, sxb you should know that even the most deviant sects often have "proofs" for their stance. The way to salvation is by following the ijmaac (the common understanding) and being sincere to God.

Nice to see law and order regardless where it is, weather in Mogadishu or Hargeysa. But Ibtisam the spelling is horrible, I never knew we had the letter "P" as in "POOLISKA" in our language.

Haatu;983555 wrote: War awoowgaa la janneeye use 'He'. It's very uncomfortable to read someone using the 'her' pronoun. . Haatu, re-read the post again, remember that we are the created ones, our existence (knowledge) of the world/universe is only understood by our 5 senses, pronouns like her/we/he is limited to us, Allah uses these pronouns to show us that "he" he can not limited to a pronoun or anything. Why do you think it's uncomfortable to see someone using the pronoun "her" while at the same time you feel at ease with the exact same masculine pronoun "he". My friend, you failed the test, If you think of God as someone bound by time or space or by pronouns you should really check your faith.