The Wagosha community should be given their full political rights.

What a fiasco!! Who is this tyrant holding the post of the Director General of the MoE? Is he even qualified to be in the government?

Yusuf M Hasan HARGEISA (Somalilandsun) – The Abaarso Tech Institute has apologized to Somaliland students who were to sit for an entry examination. The apologies were extended by Abaarso Tech's Co-Founder & Managing Director Mr. Jonathan Starr during an interview with Somalilandsun in Hargeisa where he informed that the failure to conduct entry examinations for 280 students in Burao was occasioned by unethical procedures undertaken by the ministry of education-MOE. The youthful American philanthropist who said that the institute is pursuing avenues to ensure that the 280 interested students who were from as far as Erigavo town in Sanaag region sit for entry exams also decried the handling of the incident by the Ministry of education. Said he, "We are very embarrassed by the actions of police officers who acting on MOE orders utilized brutal force to disrupt entry examinations in Burao" On the 6th August 2012 Burao police disrupted entry exams after they stormed the hall where the 280 students from Togdheer, Sahil, Sool and Sanaag regions who had successfully fulfilled all Abaarso tech had assembly to sit the exams. The police say their action came after information from the ministry of Education to the effect that the entry examinations were illegal as the Abaarso Tech-AT management had not cleared the issue with the MOE. According to the AT managing director this accusation is absurd as the MOE had provided its approval following a letter of request from AT, said he, "We have an official approval letter from the MOE duly signed and stamped by the Director General on 15th April" The MOE letter of approval which was availed Somalilandsun states, following a request from Abaarso Tech Trustees and Management, the MOE has allowed the AT to conduct entry exams for prospective students before final year exams are computed. Follow this link to view the official letter follow this link http://abaarsotech.org/ The AT management which claims that Ministry of Education is accusing it of attacking the government of Somaliland wants the MOE to accept it has blundered thus apologize to the institute, the 280 students and parents. Suspicious manner its activities were legal ""why should the education minister accuse the AT of breaking rules while documentary evidence prove that the AT acted legal" Said Mr. Starr While documentary evidence provided by Mr. Jonathan Starr detailing the whole saga (see below) proves that the AT acted with official acquiescence they also indicate that different departments and offices in the Ministry of Education are not working in Harmony. With matters deteriorating at a fast pace the AT management is considering shifting its never ending flow of dollars to another country where education officials act ethically and respect agreements. Since inception three years ago the Ultra-Modern Abaarso Tech situated in Abaarso in Gabile region has managed to not only provide quality technical education but secured American and South African university scholarships to Somaliland students, a feat that hasn't happened in Somaliland for decades. Though the Abaarso Tech desires to continue providing its education related development support to Somalilanders there are very many needy children in other parts of the world thus strategizes to shift camp if the Ministry of education does not stop ongoing negative campaigns. According Mr. Jonathan Starr the AT Co-founder and Managing director, reasons behind the MOE's anti Abaarso Tech activities are related to his refusal to loan an extra $100,000 on top of earlier one of $171,626 whose refund date is already in default. The AT managing Director believes that the MOE should not persecute needy Somaliland students in its quest to punish him personally. Said he, "I have contributed hundreds of thousands in US dollars to Abaarso tech from my personal coffers and willing to contribute more but The following outlines the events leading up to and through the AT Entry examination in Burao. 1) On April 15th the DG of Education signs and stamps a letter Approving AT to give its entry examinations anytime it wants. Proof: This document is attached. 2) On April 20th the DG goes back on this agreement in an email to Jonathan Starr. However, Jonathan Starr responds to the DG that any Official change to the DG's letter should be made in writing. The DG Responds "of course I will do that in writing for you." Proof: This email correspondence is attached. 3) This official letter new letter "in writing for" AT was never sent to AT. Proof: The MOE is not even claiming a new letter was sent. There is no question that AT never received a new letter. 4) While no new letter was sent replacing the DG's initial approval, Abaarso Tech wanted to do everything properly so it sent Harry Lee, Nura Gureh and Hassan Jama to meet with the Minister of Education. The Minister explained to these 3 respected individuals that the head of the examination board, Daud, had objected to the agreement but if Daud would now agree, then the Minister would be fine again approving The agreement. Harry, Nura and Hassan then went to Daud and Daud Agreed to let the examinations happen whenever AT wanted so long as Any student accepted who later was found to fail the national exam Would then be removed from AT. AT fully accepted this arrangement. Proof: Testimony of Harry Lee, Nura Gureh, and Hassan Jama. 5) Harry brought a new letter for the Minister to sign so as to Reinforce the old letter. After time went by without response, Harry Followed up with the DG who told Harry "the letter has accidently been Lost." Harry and other AT staff brought 2 more letters to the DG over The following weeks only to twice more have the DG declare that "the Letter has accidently been lost." Proof: Testimony of Harry Lee and Lindsay Moore. 6) Three days before the entry examination, AT student Suleikha Mohamed Hashi reports that her mother, Amran Ali, saw Daud and Daud Told her that he knows we are giving the exam in Burao and he has the List of students who took the 8th grade exit exam ready so that AT can Check that the students were 8th graders after the entry examination Is complete. This clearly shows that Daud was accepting the Examination. Proof: Testimony of Amran Ali and Suleikha Mohamed Hashi. 7) With the original letter in hand, the DG clearly saying that the Minister planned to sign a new positive letter, oral approval from the Minister and head of the examination board in front of 2 respected Somalis, and continued clear approval from Daud, AT went to Burao to Give the entry examination thinking it had the full MOE support. 8) On examination day, the Minister of Education called Burao to block The examination. This left 280 registered students sitting in the hot Sun for hours while fasting. Later these students were chased away by armed guards. The leaders of Burao then met with the DG of Education but the DG snuck out of the meeting without telling them he was leaving and drove back to Hargeisa. The Minister of Education then declared that AT was giving an illegal exam and that AT was trying to start a riot. This is despite AT not being aware of a single Burao student or resident taking a single violent action. That night police came to hotels to look for AT's staff in Burao. The next day police deported AT's staff back to Hargeisa. Proof: Testimony of AT staff plus countless Burao students, hotel owners and officials. Conclusion: First the Ministry's unethically interfered with the examination after giving AT every reason to believe it was approved. Far worse, the MOE put AT staff at risk and greatly insulted them with their ungrounded claim that AT was inciting a riot. This lie puts AT's foreign staff in physical danger from police and others who might believe the lie. Sadly, this is just the latest in a long series of events in which the Ministry of Education has broken all ethical standards to damage AT in favor of special interests. Even more shocking, the MOE has done this while requesting Jonathan Starr to fund yet another $100,000 of his personal money to support AT. It seems that the Ministry of Education believes that AT staff will continue to put considerable time and money into Somaliland no matter how the Ministry behaves. The Ministry is very wrong about this and the Burao examination was the last straw that we were willing to take. There are many needy children around the world and AT has proven that it can be extremely effective in educating them. In fact, in just 3 years AT has been able to get American and South African scholarships for its students, a feat that hasn't happened in Somaliland for decades. AT would have been happy to work to make Abaarso Tech the best school in Africa, however, since Somaliland's Ministry of Education has proven its desire to unethically attack AT, we will simply move to a more friendly country. Abaarso Tech Management

Alle ha u naxariisto marxuunta dimatay. But why do Somalis clap at inappropriate times and speeches like this? Were the people in the video clapping because someone died in the sea?

There are two other genuine groups too. 1. Qurbodoon- those who desperate want to leave their homeland and, 2. Qurboqalbi- or those who never left the Somali peninsula but have the mentality and culture of the Diaspora .

I know prime minister Abdi Wali is a decent guy, but your obsession with Puntland personalities is tantamount to idolatry. It amounts to clan worship and is a bad thing in this Holy month of Ramadan. For a change, why don’t you be impartial and also support the many other non MJ unsung heroes and heroines working had to restore peace and order in the failed country?

Fasting is just the latest of a long list of Islamic rituals proven by science. Few years ago it was also proven by medical scientists that male circumcision is an effective method of controlling the spread of HIV.

AsadSL;855152 wrote: He's a British-Somalilander. He was Born in Gebiley region of Somaliland. Just because he lived in England for a longtime doesn't mean he's no longer from Somaliland No matter where his tribe hails from, he is a British-Somali and is seen and referred to as such by everyone. I am not denying him his roots but the fact is he left Africa as a child, grew up in London, has a non-Somali family, and surely has no plans to ever return to the Horn. Also he represents Great Britain on the world stage and his success is Britain's success in the medal table not Somaliland's. So Mr Assad, on what basis are you associating this man's Olympic glory with Somaliland? Because of his tribe? If anyone should take pride in Mo Farah's success, it should be all the Somalis in the UK .i.e, the British-Somalis.

Taleexi;855011 wrote: AUN. Others like him may meet the same faith. So you support this kind of cold blooded murder? May Allah's mercy be on the dead man's soul. This sort of terrorism will surely not be allowed to continue in Somaliland and the people of Sool will bring to justice the cowards behind this ugly crime. I suggest your lot come up with something different next time, may be a little more civilised tactics to win Sool's support.

Nudawn;854395 wrote: I'll support the seperation of somaliland from Somalia, a nation with no sustainable water supply, arible soil for crops and no known natural resources. We'll just slap tarriffs on good imported from somaliland. Boom there goes your biggest market to trade with. A quick look at Somaliland's current trading partners, its agricultural sector, the many contracts it signed with foreign mining companies, its proven vast aquifers, or just its overall economy will help you write a more intelligible comment next time.

Carafaat;854360 wrote: by DISSIDENT NATION on AUGUST 4, 2012 in POLITICS with NO COMMENTS In 2005 the separatist Sudanese People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM) and the ruling National Islamic Front (NIF) of Sudan came together to end the Second Sudanese Civil War that had ravaged the country for a generation. In the Naivasha Agreement brokered in Kenya, President Omar Al-Bashir offered the SPLM an independence referendum following a six-year period of cooperation and ceasefire. In 2011, South Sudan voted for independence from the Khartoum regime and went its separate way. Now, Somaliland may be getting a similar deal with its mother nation of Somalia. Since the birth of the federalist movement in Somalia and the reintroduction of Somaliland to national politics there has been great fanfare about the fate of Somaliland within the context of regional politics. Earlier this year in the United Arab Emirates, a leader of Somaliland met with his Mogadishu-based counterpart for the first time in twenty years. A nation in waiting Somaliland has maintained its political status quo through a rigid program of indoctrination based on forthcoming independence. It has allowed the political establishment to stay in place and for peace to prevail amid minor disagreements. But a generation of repeated promises of independence from Somali are starting to fall on deaf ears, and the Somaliland public is tired of the long wait. With pressure building on its current leader Ahmed Mahamud Silanyo, an ex-rebel and planning minister during the regime of Siad Barre, the Somaliland leadership is increasingly changing its tactics to achieve the evasive independence its people have been promised. President Silanyo’s task is no different than any of his predecessors; to bring out the recognition of Somaliland by the international community. Working with Somalia The people of Somaliland believe their worst mistake as a state was the union with Somalia during independence in 1960. The commonly-held belief in Somaliland has always been that it is the people of southern Somalia holding their independence goals back. However, it is Somaliland’s own political misguidance that is keeping it in the current status quo. While South Sudan seized the opportunity for an independence referendum from the Khartoum regime, as did Eritrea from the Addis Ababa regime in Ethiopia, Somaliland has turned its back on Mogadishu, depriving itself of real independence. In years previous, Somaliland’s leaders were forced to sit under the banner of Somalia to get an international audience, and this was viewed as a form of public humiliation by the region’s leaders, and no less for its people. The stigma of being seen alongside a broken Somalia was the driving force behind Somaliland’s fruitless twenty-year isolation, during which only peace was established. Somaliland’s isolation has taken its toll on the state far beyond the political arena. Even the administrations in Mogadishu and Puntland were able to garner wider outside support and investment during the war than democratic Somaliland. The referendum In breaking from the failed methods of years past, Somaliland is now fully engaged with the regime in Mogadishu. And behind closed doors there is a great political game ongoing to resolve the status of Somaliland. In exchange for relinquishing claims to the entirety of the former borders of British Somaliland, whose historic territorial extent is the basis of modern Somaliland, the regime in Mogadishu will offer an independence referendum. This was a demand from the traditional elders of Eastern Somaliland, who have given support to Somalia’s current president Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed and are currently parked in Mogadishu with key figures in tow. The referendum will last for a period of five years according to insiders in the Somali capital. Whereas in Sudan, the SPLM leader Salva Kiir was given the position of vice president, there will be no vice president from Somaliland. Instead, the referendum will be be based on political capitals. For a period of five years, the Somali capital will be switched to a different city, but whether symbolic or political we don’t know for sure yet. Three cities will share the rotation; the first is the current seat of power Mogadishu, the second is the Somaliland capital Hargeisa, and the third will be a city from Puntland so as to not alienate other Somali stakeholders. It’s unclear if Puntland will choose its current capital Garowe or its commercial capital Bosaso to represent it in the rotation. In year one the capital will be Mogadishu, in year two Hargeisa, in year three Bosaso, in year four Mogadishu again, and in year five it will end in Hargeisa for the symbolic referendum vote. During the fifth year Somaliland will have the spotlight of the nation shining on its capital for the momentous occasion.. When the new Somali constitution left out the status of the Somali capital, it wasn’t a mistake. For good reason the clause on Somalia’s political seat was deliberately left out of the constitution. The decision on a new capital will be left up to Somalia’s member states, and the extent of Somalia’s decentralization program allows all parties, even Somaliland, to voice their concerns and decide their own fate, alongside the central government and not under it. DissidentNation.com Yet another garbage written somewhere in the web.

Its so embarrassing to hear all the ridiculous talk that Mo Farah is a "Somaliland athlete". What the hell are people thinking about? He clearly represents Britain, waves it flag, and his medals go to that country. So where does Somaliland feature in his sports life? Its like China claiming the win of an ethnic Chinese who competes for the United States. Get over it people he is a British-Somali and not a Somalilander. Somalilanders should not bask in the glory of other nations but should support their own home grown athletes who might one day represent Somaliland on the world stage.

They are from prosperous nations so they don't need to be Somali. They have already got good lives in their countries so don't need to look for "rights" in black Africa.

Seeing all this water and greenery makes the pain of knowing Somali children and mothers are needlessly dying of hunger and thirst in the south even more unbearable. Forget about the potential of the Somali coast that continues to generate billions of US dollars for foreign trawlers every year, these farmlands can easily feed populations several times greater than the few millions inhabiting the south. Sultan Timocadde was right indeed when he said "Soomaali caqligii doonbuu karraacay".

The Khatumite revisionists might turn the terror raids of defeated early 20th century bandits into a romantic fable, but they will not be allowed to lie about a well documented European modern history.

The money spent on just one trip of Sheikh Dalxiis can stop the abuse of a lot of these unfortunate children.

I think my proposal is much more practical than the mess which is being passed around for constitution.

Dhan uga baydha shinnida.:cool:

In my opinion, the best political system for Somalia is a parliamentary system based on the United Kingdom model. With some modification the following plan could be the solution to the long running political instability: 1 The AU should continue the military campaigns to stabilise the whole country. 2. The government which takes office after August must start a campaign to register every single man, woman, and child in a central database then issue a biometric ID card with a unique number to every citizen. 3. The original 13 states in Somalia should be used for administrative purposes. 4. Give about every 25,000 people in an area the right to elect an MP. If a state has 120,000 people living in it, then 4 MPs will be elected from it. If it has only 85,000, then 3 MPs. 5. Every citizen 18 years or older should vote using their ID card and be able to use his/her vote in any state. Also all the citizens should have the same rights in every state regardless of their clan. 6. The lower house of the parliament must be composed of all the elected MPs from the country. 7. The upper house should be composed of elected tribal elders. The tribal elders are elected in the same way as the MPs. Every 5000 members of a sub-clan should elect a leader. If a clan has 100,000 members, then the sub-clans will have 20 leaders. These 20 leaders will in turn elect a clan chief who would be made a member of the upper house of the parliament (the house of elders). 8. Once all the MPs take their seats in parliament, they organise themselves into parties based on their political believes (or tribal alliances). The party which gets 55% of the seats either on its own or through a coalition gets to form the government. 9. The judges of the high courts serving the states and those of the supreme court should be selected from the members of an independent national organisation for the law professionals and be appointed by a committee formed by that organisation. Their appointment must then be approved or rejected by a vote in both housed of parliament. 10. The president should be only a figurehead who will have no major political powers. His/her duties must be mainly ceremonial. It should be the prime minister’s office which will have all the executive powers.

^ It is a profitable enterprise, so why not? Bring on the knickers too.:cool:

^ Adigu ma 'Eastern Europe Somali celebrity circuit' ayaad raadinaysay?

They could also be lesbians who want to be around each other. This is a good plan indeed.

burahadeer;853011 wrote: Will xalimos in the west do that:D Wish my woman was so considerate......:cool: sandwiched in winter time. ;)

It is called sharing.

Morals and values began with Islam, not 1400 years ago but from the dawn of humanity. In other words they began with Adam and Eve.