Aamiin. Smair iyo iimaan Alle haka siiyo ehelkiisana

Che -Guevara;934156 wrote: Chimera, you have romanticized idea of Somalia Well well well I think you should then teach him what reality in the Horn is Mr Che? Or is your "reality" an online one too?

malistar2012;933882 wrote: are Punt landers aright or high on life. who is against Puntland development you guys are sick qabilst ...... let me ask you this why Puntland always undermine oppose Somali goverment..... From 1960 to 2013 From ssdf days to abdiwali policy never changes ....... for example .... Puntland got the Prime Minister Position 3 times the last 10 years all three From Xassan abshir Farah , Omar Abdirashid Sharmarke and abdi wali ended in disaster .... conflict of interest undercuting the president , sneaking the Institution ... Gedo Folks got 2 Farmajo a nationalist there where no conflict between Farmajo and Sh sharif Ahmed no sneak shady business healthy relationship. Xamar got Pm Gedi and etc no conflict with president ........... Ask not what your country can do for (or to) you, but what you can do for it. ... not withstanding, regulation is inherently a negative thing. It is the ... You are wrong buddy. Punlanders are not more qabiilist than the other Somalis but only better at the national game of fadhi kudidir. They are the heavyweight champions;)

Apophis;933827 wrote: You were stoking the fires and now you want to mediate? Yaab No we did not stoke any fire but I guess we are forced to take the role of the cool headed elder in the dysfunctional Somali family.

Waranle_Warrior;933821 wrote: Keep laughing Tallaabo because the secessionists only hope for war in south Somalia. No we never wished war on our brothers and sisters. But what made me laugh is that Koofuria's politics became so predictable and you never seem to listern to us.

Apophis;933820 wrote: I was offered a job in MO town, I wasn't really sure but if things go as they're, I will have to turn it down. I've already been through the “escape from Xamar" experience once, don't really fancy another one. :cool: Waar all hope is not lost. We can always mediate:)

:D Sorry I should not be laughing but I knew this is where the bandwagon was leading.

The Canadian citizens who forked out hundreds of dollars for a visa or simply could not get out of the UAE airports should blame the Air Canada executives who lobbied the Canadian government to deny Emirates and Etihad more landing rights. Air Canada smelt the coffee and knew giving the Middle Eastern carriers an unlimited access to the Canadian airspace would result in her loss of the lucrative Asian markets due to stiff competition. This saga was a tit-for-tat protectionism gone out of control.

^ They can make whole engines if they get good professional engineers. Anyone can make anything if they have the resources.

Xaaji Xunjuf;933220 wrote: The Somali republic is now officially called the federal Somali republic what also needs to be done is a change of name for the army. The new name should be the Somali defense forces. The SNA left a negative memory on the vast majority of the Somalis. So since a new start for the people of Somalia the new name should be the Somali defense forces the SDF a new dawn a new name. Xaaji you have got it wrong. The former Somali republic is not reborn as you erroneously said, but rather it's Southern component is reborn as the Federal Somali Republic. The former Republic was dissolved in 1991 and can not be reborn without Somaliland being part of it again. Just like the former Yugoslavia was dissolved and no longer exists, the former Somali republic no longer exists and so only its Southern part is renamed. You can not say the former Yugoslavia is reborn as Serbia because Serbia was just one of its constituent nations. Please don't confuse the Konfurians any further:eek:

Waranle_Warrior;932749 wrote: ^All kinds and types of biro in any engine. Basically it cannot make only the engine itself but everything else in an Engine because that needs design and creativity. Its the Chinese style of copy paste of technology but while the Chinese have managed to do it to everything including the latest technologies this firm will only do the Engines and all other metals. This is good news, the old days of take outside the country/throw away that Engine because a precious metal in it is gone is over. So Norf, if you car or lorry Engine stops you know where to head or if the Coca Cola firm in Hargeisa lose a metal in one of their Engine they need no travel outside of the country . Yes they still must travel out of the country to neighbouring Puntland:) But anyway, this is a good initiative and I wish them all the best.

Tallaabo;932571 wrote: Of course, no surprise there. Someone must have complained about my comment as it is missing its soul:confused:

So in the end among the many political groups and ideologies, the secessionist camp won in Somaliland:o

Well done, Kenyan Somalis should compete at every level for their share of the national pie.

^ Waaryaa stop lying you are NOT like wyre and you don't know anything about Arabic you just cut and paste some Arabic script from the internet. Boy you can tell thousand lies to your Habashi maid to get her to bed but you can't deceive wyre and Tal:cool:

SOM: Let us talk. SL: Where? SOM: Antractica SL: I will be there We are always ready my friends:)

^ Stop going there. Go to Somalilandsun;)

xiinfaniin;933142 wrote: ^^why talk about Garoweonline then ? or was that a desperation of sort to ignore the lively debate at home You got it wrong , Sage. The reason I follow Somaliland news is 1) that Somaliland is I believe a region of Somalia that I care about, 2) Somalia is undergoing a radical political transformation from separatism to unity and integration with Somalia, and 3) as an avid follower of Somali politics in general, it is quite interesting to see how fellow Northern brothers think and analyze this looming political tsunami. What Hadhwanaagnews writes is clearly an internal debate Hadhwanaag and debate?? Waar waa mirqaan talk as I said earlier;)

Waranle_Warrior;933141 wrote: Chimera, you are a young passionate man who believes everyone who questions Mogadishu as our capital a hater of Somalia. No one hates anything, Mogadishu was made a capital in 1960 by the Somali people after we gained independence when our first government assumed office. A civil war broke in 1991 and Somalis disintegrated, civil unrest and conflict ensued, the government fall and every Somali went back to their respected regions. Efforts have been going since that time to get the Somalis together and establish a proper Somali government, these efforts have failed many times before but now, for the first time, we are seeing a glimmer hope as a new republic is born again, a new federal system is introduced, a new government which most Somalis are willing to work with was selected and once everything goes to plan the new capital of Somalia will be decided and agreed upon by all the Somalis that disintegrated before or returned to their respected Somali regions. Mogadisho's status as the capital of Somalia is set in stone. It is not open to questions.

xiinfaniin;933127 wrote: For the record, the author is a Somalilander (if there is a such thing ) and the website that published his piece is called Hadhwanaagnews.com which is the premier internet news portal for Somaliland I know that and Hadhwanaagnews is where all those with mirqaan go for gossip;)

Chimera;933124 wrote: LOOL, we'll see what you have to say in a year's time. The hatred for the republic and all its symbols never ceases to amaze me. What's next, adopt a new official language? A new flag ? Yes actually Somalia should give up the blue flag as it is only one part of the five Somali regions. The star in the flag represents an ideology which is no longer relevant.

I nominate Dhuusomareeb. Second choice is Wanlawayn

What a useless thread this is. I wasted my time coming to this thread. Just like the author of this rubbish I can also write whatever I want and post it on the many Somali websites which spout nonsense everyday. But will the garbage on Somali websites like Garoweonline change the realities on the ground in Somaliland. The answer is NO.

OdaySomali;932773 wrote: Edited & Updated. Tooray City a.k.a Burco Boodhweyn. We arrived in Burco and I believe we drove into the city from the new-Burco area side on the smoothly paved road that leads in to the city. Driving from Sheikh to Burco you find yourself, after some travel of-course, having suddenly arrived in Burco. I say suddenly because in the New-Burco area which is the first part of the city that you will come across, the houses are still few in number and so you will find the odd house or two suddenly appearing next to the road. This is the signal that you have arrived in Burco. Among those houses is the house of Dahabshiil himself and the house of another wealthy local fellow whose name I do not recall. These handful (two or three houses) will probably be the only handful of double story houses you are likely to see in Burco. (Of-course there are a number of multi-storey hotels in the city's centre). From the outset I got the misguided idea that many of the city's houses wouls be as large and lavish as those I first saw on the outskirts. Oh how wrong I was. We drove further into the city and soon the houses eitherside of the road becamse more numerous. Burco is probably the "terraced houses capital" of the Somali republic as most streets consist of a row of terraced houses. The single paved road soon developed side-roads and eventually we turned off from the smooth, faultless asphalted road and found ourselves doing some serious off-road driving in the side-streets and being thrown around inside the car. We soon got a better idea of what the real city looked like. Once-again I was utterly shocked and sitting there with a harrowed look on my face. I was sitting there with my window half down, an unintentionally dropped jaw and a perplexed and puzzled look on my face. I was overcome and consumed with yaab; what can only be described as shock. Where had I just come? I thought. Where is the city that is spoken of? I thought... surely they didnt mean this chaotic, dirty and underdeveloped oversized slum. Imagine: there is no pavement, no paved road, no street lights, no front gardens. Instead, you will find that the streets and neigbourhoods of the city consist of narrow streets consisting of dark maroon-brown earth, sand and mud where you have to wade through heaps of trash and rocks. The houses are slum-esque; rows of small, dingy, boxey terraced houses, many with haphazardly built shacks in front of them to house goats. On the corner of each street is a "cornershop", which is a shack constructed of metal sheets or sticks and branches, selling soft drinks, bread, sugar and other such consumables. Burco was even worse that Hargeisa because in Burco the houses are, for whatever reason, not built as high or wide as in Hargeisa . Unlike in Hargeisa, most of the houses (I say most) are not detached but in Burco you will find rows upon rows of squalid terraced "houses" of old Burco, many of which are in a bad state of disrepair. This means that it looks and is an awful lot more like a slum , a very big and expansive one at that. There are also newer rows of terraced houses. These newer houses sit on bigger land, average 3 bedrooms and are constructed with beautifully and proportionately crafted white& beige coloured natural stone of various hues, with vividly contrasting gates and metal doors of brightly coloured variations and designs. These houses do not, unfortunately, have front or back gardens but if the streets in front of the houses are cleared and flattened/levelled, the streets are paved with cobble-stone, trees are planted and front gardens (even if only gardens of a 2 metre expanse from the house) are created, the look of the city would be transformed. Burco is known as Burco Boodhweyn and only once you are there do you realise how appropriate the name is. If you are coming to Burco, ensure that you bring big sunglasses because the sand and dust that rises from the city's streets will get into your eyes. So much so that it is almost impossible to walk or go outside if there is a slight wind (and there usually is). There is, as though the city were built on a beach, a permanent layer of coffee-coloured sand (not earth or dust but sand ,God knows where it appeared from), on every inch of street, road, open space or other land of the city. So much so that you can sit in front of you house, take your shoes off and press with your feet into the sand ; in some areas the layer of sand is so deep that the sand will reach above your ankles. You would think that Burco is built on the Sahara. I found it suprising then, when I discovered that the city is home to 2 or three water-blottling plants. Apparently, there is an abundance of underground water that the city sits on. Burco is also home to a nascent manufacturing industry and it is home to the water-bottling plants, furniture manufacturing, detergents manufacturing. It also does a lot of trade with the regions and many consumables that are imported through the Berbera port are traded into the hinterland and, via Galkacyo, in some cases further south. The city also has a large livestock and meat market that besides causing a great part of the city to be swamped by thousands upon thousands of belligerent flies (swarms of them), means livestock is brough in from the surrounding countryside as well as many regions further afar (further South). The city also has a bustling city-centre with a market & 'high-streets'. Much like Bakaara market, each long street speacialises in and sells a particular item. One particular street is lined with physical stores selling gold (vast majority owned by women). Another street is lined with physical stores selling clothing (womens clothing, vast majority owned by women). Then there are the markets (bacadlayaasha) which sell a vast array of consumer products (mainly owned by men, interestingly). Brisk trade is done and the quantities of things being bought and sold, the number of streets and stalls selling goods is surprising and especially so because of the city looks so poor. If only the narrow streets would be paved with cobblestone, once again it would very much transform the city centre. It goes without saying though, that most of this consumer spending is a false economy financed with remittances and should those remittances stop, this entire economy will grind to a halt. Another thing I noticed is that the vast majority of things being sold is imported, from shoes (insane when we have such a high number of livestock and thus potential leather), to mobile phones, glasses and teacups. These goods are shipped from China and transhipped through Dubai to Berbera/Boosaaso which means they are quite costly. The quality of the items being sold is very very poor and this is epecially the case where they are Chinese-made goods. In fact, poor does not even adequately describe the appaling quality of the goods. Most of these goods are worthless because they are fauly and will break, rip, disintegrate or stop working withing a few days of you haveing purchased them. I bought a bag for my clothes, the wheels and handle broke off, the material started to rip and falling apart. I bought a mug and simply held it; the handle broke off, it dropped to the ground and it smashed into pieces. The windoes of the houses are Chinese-made, they are of very poor quality, do not close or open properly among many issues with them. To be continued... Tooray city. Oday, saaxiib why don't you help these poor people build more luxurious accomodations like those in Bevely Hills and Malibu Beach?

xabad;932667 wrote: Oday, this is thoroughly enjoyable and informative thread. please go ahead and let us know more of your journey. and to these guys who bring up sl everywhere, desist from your tiresome arguments. we are not interested in them. Did you forget this entire thread is about SOMALILAND?