Xaaji Xunjuf;946672 wrote: ^^ Raxanreeb is a Puntland website Are you blaming the bomb blast on Somaliland:D somaliland is the known hub for the terrorist leader amir godane....I am not blaming them for the blast per say I am however pointing out their complacency..The thing about splinter groups is when they lose foreign battles they tend to regroup at home lets just hope, the amirs warning not to attack the homeland dont fall on deaf ears.

did your dear amir godane tell you this. secessionist and their love for death and destruction. Somalia is moving forward and no amount of raxanreeb fake news is going to change that.

oba hiloowlow;946600 wrote: Tarzan is unuka arafaat kala saarka daaya. Its not Tarzans fault about the Banaadir admin its the system which is focked we need to change the system, you heard the xamardaye folks when they attacked Tarzan for saying Banaadir belongs to every somali... walahi Tarzan is sincere and a patriot he's just surrounded by waraabeyaal patriotic this wadani that, it seems as tho people have equated giving up all they've worked for and exposing themselves to swindle and thieves as wadani-nimo , PL has worked for its peace ground up , without the need of foreign troops, nor the IC holding their hands at every juncture, and not only that it has supported and facilitated the process that has led to this current administration, and the International communities recognition of the current somali government. I know secessionist ( who have a sever case of mistaken identity) and those who have benefited from the looted capital and who have been endowed with, privileges they do not deserve because of the dominance in the capital would love to see federal states down played and chaos rule the land, lets just hope for the future of somalia these people never see the mugdishu ruled siad barre era idea of governance come to light.

That goes against everything that has been agreed upon thus far...the articles if the federalism charter state clearly the right to self determination by locals, we must bot mess with the constitution as it is the foundation of somalias rehabilitation . Thus seems like the usual gutter gossip, let's just hope that is the case . As for caarafat we are all African saxib lets not lose gratitude toward the people who govern our capital our AMISON neighboirs.

oba hiloowlow;945238 wrote: Waranle's reaction: waranle boowe oohinta jooji there is no way in hell the president and his government is gonna accept this shimbirayahow heesa meeting orchestered by warlords and kenyans. most of your people are living of the stolen properties in their clan fiefdom while being guarded by uganda and burundis your whole government is a foreign project, and yet you speak of others with your own self reflection.

future generations will look back and refuse to accept us as their ancestors, like how the somali say "jareer illahay maanaaga dhiigo".

I pray for closure for the families and justice for the innocent lives lost, the matter of execution is a permanent one, this is nothing more than muscle flexing and the military judge should at least be thoroughly investigated to make sure this kind of thing never happen again.

this government needs to distance itself from this jubaland thing, focus on more important issue and let the situation play out. Focus more on economic recovery and infrastructural rehabilitation. I think the president is doing well by letting this jubaland thing playout.

it truly is something to be marveled at ,when those accustomed to lighting their huts with embers, gloat with the same poise as corpulent kings of yesteryear. your attempt at word play is a kin to the troglodyte who needs to arm himself against the dark figure that follows him wherever he goes, and while one can laugh at this pitiful display of mental prowess its is perhaps more fulfilling to let it seek shelter in the dark crevices as they alone keep at bay this immortal in-destructible foe.

any article that refers to the president of the somali republic in such a disrespectful manner is not worth reading. These people want Djibouti out of Somalia but Kenya to stay I cants help but laugh at your statement.

Oodweyne;943284 wrote: :D Why don't you humour me and tell me in straight two paragraph lines, the reason you think that pirate-land have not once tried to recapture that city of Las-Anod from us ever since 2007? I mean really, if you think I am clueless about what it's holding back the pirate-land "blitzkrieg" then I am sure of it, I will be grateful with your instruction in here. And therefore tell me in a straight forward way, the "mystery" that is stopping pirate-land to recapture what they used to tell us was their land as late as 2007... Oodyweyne your name fails you.. let me be the one to "humor you" 2007 was a rude awakening for the PLers because they essentially defeated the SNM militia and were thanked with armed conflict, they saw the idea of PL map they had drawn wasted and blood shed for men who were easily bought, ( I.e Pl military equipment stationed around the region stolen and loyalties quickly changed) the truth of the matter is the desert triangle that you and the rest of the grass fiends cling to, weather you believe it or not is nothing but a hoax a temporary permanency caused by dire times, such is the case of the somali people. It shares the same strife as the rest of the "tuulo states", in its limited resources and finances, and among its greatest victories is the unity among clansmen , its the glue that keeps these canoe states afloat it also serves as a firewall to keep enemy clan at bay, Pirateland has defeated khaatland in every manner when it came to real armed conflict as we saw you ilk run for cover leaving the bodies of their brethren in the sand, the defeat of pirateland did not come from khaatland but from weakness within (the people of SSC not wanting to be part of PL) and the new regime (farooles in particular) saw no use in wasting valuable resources on people who did not want to be part of his village kingdom. As for pirateland recapturing those lands honestly to recapture wouldn't take much but to maintain and govern would be something worth pondering perhaps when faroole's term is over (if the new regime sees it fit) you shall get the death and destruction you wish for and your facade exposed, again and again.

I see what faroole is trying to say if turkey can easily change it stance on promises made to federal states there is nothing stopping it from changing promises made to other parties (including FGS). That being said faroole needs to get his house in order, and increase civil and political institution that have only wasted valuable resources that could have been used to improve the lives of the average somali in the region. He needs to demand equal share of infrastructure and military Aid from the federal government in somalia rather than trying to compete with the FGS he needs to show that the days of clan juntas are over, instead of saying why did the turks not deliver on their promises to puntland, he needs to say why did the turks not deliver its promises to somalia and in this case a federal state . It would have been much more mature and shown a sense of cohesion if faroole delegated this matter to the federal government and it was the federal government that was demanding turkey fulfill its promises. Sadly somalia has not reached that maturity, its everyman for himself and foreign parties get a free pass. On another note I see XX and the rest of the secessionist are still attempting to create conflict between the federal government and federal states, it wont be long before all turkish Aid to their region is also going through the capital, one should not rock the boat especially if they have a seat in it. Nothing makes me more happy than to see secessionist grinding their teeth, and shouting at the top of their lungs, in the politics of what in their own words is a foreign country. the Irony is too much. I will leave this thread with the following Quote from ghandi. First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Secessionist cannot be dealt with in an emotional manner as they are themselves emotional people, with ideas of grandeur due to the progress they have made in their lands (which I acknowledged and applaud), the fairy tail of the Phoenix rising from the smoke of the siad barre regime, is what defines them (at least in their mind) , their whole house of cards is built on the notion surviving and striving , they see their small feats as giant leaps, and one needs only to have them reflect on their own doings to dissuade them. You do not fight them with arms such as the case of the nigeria V. biaffara conflict (which to this day has left mistrust between the people of nigeria), the FGS need only to re-structure itself and make lasting progress toward a stable somalia, they need to rise higher, builder faster, and be more honest and transparent, they need to show a resounding and firm stance on seccesionist , they need to show the people of that region that they are their government and let them make the final choice. Pressure domestically and stagnation in the political front will see the seccesionist dream crumble under its own weight, I am very enthusiastic about the somali government, the president is on the right track and federal state (such as PL, galmudug, JUbaland, XX, etc.) have shown support and loyalty to their government, if the FGS is weak on secession i fear we will see somalia castrated into many small nations all at war with each other and for that reason we must all show a strong stand against secession even if we disagree on many things we must all say NO!! to this parasitic ideology.

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;940087 wrote: HAG lagu haayo maxee tahay horta? Teeda kale maxaa been cad loo sheegoyaa. Cajalkaas Soomaaliweyn dhan ka wada muuqdee. Beenta badan ha laga dhaafo meesha. its a canadian based welfare organization that is being perpetuated by the those at the bottom of the barrel and who have profited from somalia suffering as well as the secessionist whose sole purpose in life is to cause mistrust between the somali people...They are currently riding on the clouds, of the current administration victory..they are on a campaign to make this president a clan based puppet of a particular canadian based welfare organization.

they say those who speak with two tongues need two pairs of ears..the reason you and the rest of the secessionist perpetuate this HAG propaganda is to de-legitimize the somali federal government , and the president of the somali republic by insinuating that he is somehow loyal to a shadow tribal society. When the fact of the matter is somali from all walks of life and from every clan were responsible for him being elected president..."pirates" and "unuka" alike all for the sake of a better future for somalia selected this man to be the president..It is a dishonor to portray him as a puppet for a canadian based welfare organization, my god cure your illness.

the way I see it somaliland should be allowed minor victories, heck I would go as far as saying they should have a special status within the union...This should come with the following stipulations. 1: drop secessionist fairytale 2: FGS controls all foreign interaction. 3: tax collection inline with all member states 4: the exchange of tax revenues with services provided by the FGS 5: No military capabilities except a state(national Guard) for self defense measures. This is the only way to go as somaliland's achievements thus far have been limited to sustained peace, with no resounding progress, one has to be careful how they resolve these kinds of situations, there are regions of equal economic capabilities in somalia who would see this as a call for bad behavior, if we reward it that is. The FGS must be firm so as to portray ist legitimacy, this is not the transactional government of yesteryear and there is absolutely no room on the table for somaliland to be on equal footing with the government of somalia. There must be a firm stand against secessionist, Somalia will be united, period!.

this is good news,and good publicity for somalia, congarts to our pres.

I will say this again and again this whole HAG things is a complete farce the london confrence should be welcomed with open arms as it open the way to economic stability and the re-instutution of the somali republic, I know tribal minded individual like xaaji, with secessionist ideals, do not want to see the republic rise again but the train has left the station. Now all we can expect is good results.

They are nothing more than senile old me.. if they had any honor, they would have averted the endless cycle of hate and tribalism that somalia has experience , we are a people with one language , one religion, one culture, and one common ancestry. yet we treat each other worse then people who are pallor opposites, the problem is lack of leadership...

These so called elders are nothing more than toddlers in a sand box..they have contributed absolutely nothing in terms of culture, math, history, philosophy, architecture, engineering, religion, governance and the list goes on. ' mind you, when I say elders I speak of all the clan juntas and their thugs from all corners, who sit idle and bask in seniority un-earned respect given to them by the masses, who have the notion that humans age like wine, when the fact is we age like bread, we start to rot from the inside physically and spiritually, we no longer have the heart to make our own paths, so instead we find a comfortable place in society and perpetuate what ever it is that gives us some notion of importance (be it tribalism or otherwise) , in the west old men retire and write literary work if they have something worth writing, or spend their days in retirement homes, where they pose no threat to society..in somalia they are called; isim, ugaas, suldan, and what not, and their senile dribble is taken as words of wisdom.

I thought this would be interesting, it seems that the central bank gambling ( AKA banking) system is at the end of its ropes, with the EU already struggling, we see a clips of the overall global crisis, cracks are appearing. "The insidious nature of a runaway inflation is that it bankrupts the middle class... the poor stay poor, the middle class (with savings in the banks) get wiped out, the wealthy (with productive assets) do the best"

This whole story reeks of bitterness and desperation XX just show low he can go

People give relevance where there is none, HAG is a tax exempt community organization in canada that keeps its door open under the pretense of helping the somali immigrant community they are not political heavy weights not by a long shot, they are just the winners of fortune, that at this time president hassan was elected in what most somali consider a bizzare manner (him not being known much before being elected) , damjadiid on the other hand is a political reality and the thing that has catapulted this president to power. that being said I believe that this win was kind of surprise attack of sort, as they are the first shadow group to have emerged as of late, I expect many more to surface and complicated what was already a volatile mix (somali political arena). Regardless it will be interesting to see if this president can pull out a second term.

Desperation time call for desperate measure if you cant beat them smear them.

Gabal if what you say was a sustainable plan , it would have tamed mugdishu, despite all pretenses somalia is a divided country, the epicenter of power in itself is someone's piece of the pie, one can day dream of there not being warlords in somalia however that will not transcend the dream world. This strategy you proposed would essentially create a situation in which one party ( those currently leading the jubaland initiative) would feel that they are being cornered, soon the legitimacy and support of the african union peace keeping troops would vanish, and they would join the ranks of ethiopia and kenya, that being enemy forces that must be rebelled at all cost (in the eyes of those fighting them). One must also remember that alshabaab has not yet been defeated, your strategy would soon see the emergence of alshabaab as they would be sought out for leverage by the weaker side ( in this case let assume the kismayo folks as the weaker side), along with that you would also see the re-emergence of tribal nationalism, something we are already seeing in the jubaland process, federal states seeing the overreaching nature of the federal government would arm themselves and clan militia from both parties emboldened by the tension would seek to find leverage wherever it may be. Mugdishu having access to military arms would attempt to crush the opposition by sheer military might, this would lead to all out war, with no party coming out as a winner. Mistrust would ensue and federal states would start dancing with the idea of secession, for the sake of somalia lets hope your wrong.