I am old enough to remember all 16 some odd conferences , and always somalis get excited and at the end nothing changes. The Istanbul conference was nothing but a "feel good" P.R for that nation, everything else remain the same, the same old sick 4.5, the same old 2 clans sharing the power, the same old deck of cards.same old cards , same old faces same old warlords.

well then act like it. simple

Che, waar wiilkaagani horta how old are you?? meel kaste xasarad iyo muran iyo sheeko ciyaal baad u soo gashaaye, ma cid forum kan kaa qabata baa la waayay, mise meesha kalsooni dheeraad ah baad ku qabtaa??

The fort of Taleex was built by Yemeni masons around 1911-1913 during the catastrophe that is remembered as "Xaaraamo-Cune" the various inter-clan wars and the sever draught of 1910-1913. But what is Taleex?? is it the Fort or is it the later day village of that name? in another word was there a village called Taleex before the Dervish take over of much of the Nugaal in 1910-1911? and finally what certain clan fanatsies have to do with a single fort out of six in Somaliland and even equal number and maybe more in the rest of Somalia from Baladweyn to Iimey.? There are 6 forts in Somaliland all built around 1910-1915: 1- Shimbriis (Sanaag) 2- Jida Ali (Sanaag) 3- Buraan (Sanaag) 4- Midhisho (Sanaag) 5- Taleex (sool) 6- Gal-baribuur (sanaag) Of all these forts none is claimed by a single clan with exception of Taleex , the modern clan that inhabit the village Taleex have contributed nothing to the origin and the building of the fort but yet the history of th fort is been used as clanist barvado and its history was monoploized by certain clan. According to the Kacaan-version of history Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise and his student, the fort of Taleex is made up of 4-5 sub-forts and around 6 shrines of the founders and saints of the Dervish movement. One issue isn't disputed and that is the fort was built later around a cluster of Dervish shrines/tombs and thats the only reason the place was chosen. Its a fact that is always underplayed or never mentioned by the Kacaan version, the reason will become obvious soon. Muhammad bin * Abdullah Hasan is said to have commenced building Taleh about 1913; prior to this there were no buildings there. It was built under the supervision of Yemeni Arab masons engaged for the purpose, possibly with a Turk as architect, though on this point I have found no good information. The walls are built of unshaped blocks of anhydrite, some weighing 150-200 pounds, but mostly smaller, with some rubble infilling. The blocks are very well set in a mortar of mud mixed with dung. The lintels of doorways and openings are made from small tree trunks of a particular hard wood. A profusion of these has been used, and must have meant widespread collection in the country. 1928 images of the Tombs via Daar-Ilaalo South of the main cave-well is the considerable tomb of 'Abdullah Hasan senior, well plastered inside and out; it is now said to be empty. Adjoining this on the west is a walled garden with massive gateway and guard-house; the rest ofthe wall is not more than 5 feet high and plastered. There are still odd bushes and signs of cultivation to be seen, but the comparatively deep well in the middle is dry. To the east lies a row of four tombs. The most northerly is that of one Soldan Nur of the Habr Yunis tribe; the next two, neither being plastered. and the first with the top left unfinished, are those of Hawiya notables whose names my Somalis did not know. The most southerly tomb is that of a man of the Habr Jaalo tribe. The isolated tomb still farther east is that of 'AbdullahHasan's mother. All the tombs are provided with narrow but very massive wooden doors, swinging about vertical extensions from top and base of one side. The Three Mullah's a recent picture. The six tombs today surrounded by modern houses. A little east of Soldan Nur's tomb is a shallow nulla, seen as a dark line in the photograph, and known as Hed Kaldig, the Place of Blood. This was the execution ground where those to whom the Mullah had taken a dislike were shot, with or without torture. Had such anticipated trouble and escaped, any members of their families on whom hands could be laid, including women and children, are said to have been shot in their stead, and their bodies left for the hyaenas. After the capture of Taleh pious Somalis collected the quantities of human bones found hereabouts and gave them burial. However this may be there are no human bones about now. According to Jardine the R.A.F. bombed Taleh on 4 February 1920, and set fire to brushwood huts inside and outside Silsilat, but did little damage to the main structures, which is not surprising. The place was attacked by our tribal levies under Captain Gibb on the evening of February 9; 'Abdullah Hasan had already fled, and by the morning of the 10th the levies were in com? plete possession. A detachment of the Camel Corps remained for two or three weeks to demolish the fortifications. Dar Ilalo,Taleh, and Falat were severely damaged and made unusable, and the strong points fronting Silsilat were partly destroyed. Razing such a structure would have required much further work and explosives, so that a considerable part has been left with little damage. It will remain as a relic of that rather remarkable person its builder, the only Somali who has so far created substantial buildings in his country. Taleh W. A. MacFadyen The Geographical Journal, Vol. 78, No. 2 (Aug., 1931), pp. 125–128 Now that was 1920-1931 history and names of the tombs, after the 1969 coup and 1974's Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise book and history, the following was ultered to give the history a clanist taste and perception : 1- changed the name and even the species burried in the tombs (from a human to a horse) 2- also chose to fill the largest tomb which was empty in 1930's(by Abdullah Hassan the father of Sayid, which was not the case in 1930's the tomb was empty). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBgbN3_-Y

I have read and re-read the instructions and its really a maze of confusion, it says i need to make an album, and then when i upload 1 image to the album from my PC it says iam beyond my limit??? whats goen?? couldn't guys make it more simpler, or is this old news and now there is new ways to upload images??

He couldn't defend himself, I just finished listening to his interview, he said he made a big mistake by including Maxamed Hiirad's articale of 2010 in Wardheernews.com, he said i should have known better then quote Maxamed and take his articale at face-value. He knew he made a big plunder and he couldn't back-up his claim, the man has less knowledge of writing then a pimpled faced grade 9, how can a Ph.d holder write a book and includ such things without even checking their validities?? he damaged his 214 page book by including 2 pages from wardheernews.com, now the rest of the 212 pages will be used as toilet paper.

How nice of her, !! it wasn't long ago when she was insulting the entire clan wholsale, and now she is picking and choosing, my advice to Dhagdheer is a good retirment , frankly her voice is dead and her lyrics are getting tired and monotnous.

Almostt 90% of the world's clans and clan founders are full of mythologyies, be it Saxsons or the 12 Jewish tribes, and yet they do exist and function no different then real history. So for these somali kids armed with couple books and som Afro-centrism give it a damn good rest, all somali clan founders and their mythologies are part of the somali culture, they have existed for almost a thousand years, If you believe them or not it changes little in reality, clan founders and patriarches serves a good purpose and unifies the interest of various groups, wether the man en-tombed in Maydh or in Haylaan exist or doesnt it amount to nill,

The man wrote his book to offend not to enlight and since his motives were questionable he should be taken to a long trip to Mandheera. Claiming that the over all suldan of Somaliland a man who is well known is from Puntland based on coffe shop cat fight is a crime. The book isn't about Somali origion the book is about who is who in somali clans, he divided them into Turks, Oromo, Indians etc. all based on his whims. Based on his claim: 1- Qawdhan Ducaale 2- Xuseen Xasan 3- Xasan Tarrabi 4- Nuur Dhagacun 5- Bare Jaajaale 6- suldaan Guuleed 7- Suldaan Faarax 8- Suldaan Xasan 8-Suldaan Diiriye 9-Suldaan Cabdilaahi to the current sultan are all from Puntland?? based on what, nothing he just wanted to offend these people

One has to be sick and suffer from a pathology to appreciate the logic of the Kacaan offspring, A poem that was composed by Hadraawi on the plight of the Gabooye community was defiled by the old Kacaan vetran Suusle , a man who made a life career defending the late Afweyne. The fort of Taleex, Jidali, Midhisho, Buraan and Shmbiriis isn't clan forts,nor the horses be it shaluu-maray, weysaysane or dhoodi meere, why the so called Khaatumo folks insist to stamp their name on the Dervish fort Taleex. Its plain tribal pretext and an excuse to slander an entire community, Suusle was not talking about Hadraawi in his introduction he was talking about an entire section of the somali people and he said: 1- kuwa taariikhdoodu ka bilaabmato..qixii, qabtii, waagii dalka la soo galay etc. And then he began to vomit as usual, Now my question to the poppy above, tell me how Dhoodi Meer or the fort of Taleex repersent your minor clan?

Adigu wax aanad waxba ka ogayn baad dhex boodaysaa, anigu ninkan Suusle maanta baran maayo iyo kooxdiisa, ilaa 1974 kii markii isagoo TB qaba oo bakhtiyaya awowgii Rooble keenay Burco ee kaga daweeyay TB dii googaysay baan ogahay. Markii u caafimaaday ee Saudi Arabia la geeyay ayaa 1983gii wuxu bilaabay "waanu aarasanaynaa" iyo "tolaayeey reer hebel baa dawladayda burburinaya" ka kaacay iyo 100 gabay oo cudur ah oo ilaa naago lagu caayayo. Cudurka suusle inan yar baad tahee waa wixii dalka iyo uamdaba haalagay, wixii na weli waa wadaa isaga iyo tolkii oo weli naxaligii iyo xaaraantii Afweynaa ka guuxaysa. adiga se waxa ku daran somaliaonline ood laba lool ku qortid ood is leeday edab yeelo yaan lagaa mamnuucine. Isku ujeedo ma nihine la sheekayso xaaji xunjuf k ku waashay 2 gidaar baa la dhisay iyo xafalad heblaayaa la qabtay.

Bleseed, cay maxay ah?? kan video ga dhan laga soo duubay miyuu ducaynayay?? mise uurkkaad ka cawarantay oo dhag uma lihid kuwaas?? anigu rabaayad adoo kale ah ma ihi , malaa adiga wey ku rabeeyeene, admin or no admin, i will answer their hate.

Anigu 100k iyo dheeraad ma hayo, maalkiisana kamaan xisaabin kan Oomaar la baxay, ee waxan diiday kuwan ku faanaya hebel Oomaar oonu isku reer hebel nahay baa Hudheel dhistay , Oomaar iyo noocisu waa dhiig miirato umadii suuqii ku xidhay, they are the price gaugers of food and basic living, any decent humanbeing shouldn't proud of these blood suckers.

ma wax aan laga xanaaqin baa , umad dhan oo wax kaste dibada uga yimaadaan oo Kabriid samaysan karin oo ku faanaya hudheel 100k ah?? xataa caanaa la cabo waxay uga yimaadaan Saudi Arabia, markaasay ku faanayaan hudheel.

Blessed, Its pretty obvious what Hadraawi meant , but whats amazing how that particular clan can ululate for a silly hatefull speech, i guess that would one day will "liberate" their shit hole.. Buhoodle.

Pepole don't eat hotels and motels, instead of wasting 100k on another motel with no swege why not buy a land and plant few olive trees and produce cooking oil?? ****** people with ****** wealth.

A Khadar, I remember long ago before you kid was even old enough to buy a match box, when this Suusule was composing filth to defend his Papa-Duc thats was 1983-1991, by the time the poetic combats were done Suusule, Maaweel, Tarrabi, Walax all of them were lining in refugee camps along their daddy Afweyne. Now isn't pathetic after all that he is still yellping like a dog?? and now somaliland troops are surrounding his clan foxhole. Not once for 30 some odd years did Hadraawi address the little popies of the Kacaan , nor he will this time, the war is finished and we have won. If your kind are opposed to somaliland then Exodus is the only option.

intay sheegeen ba maqaalku ma burin waana dhab: 1- dhul ma guuree dad baa guura waa dhab 2- somaliland waa muqdasana waa dhab 3- SSC na waa weyb ka mid ah somaliland. kuwan iska cadaadaya ee weli cudurkii kacaanka qabana loo joojin maayo

che, I see you are losing it, never ever speak for another man kid , if Nogn is what u said , what are you the house maid??

let mr NGONGE speak for himself and you speak for your self.

Che??? so what if its my 5th post?? is there something wrong with that? or is there certain rituals once has to perform before posting?

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A Khadar, Indeed why is it your business or the business of your pro-Kacaan poet Suusle? the fort of Taleex doesn't belong to your clan nor the horse, so what hell is your nose doing in this business?

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nothing.. at all he composed a long poem for Gabooye community defending their right and with in that long poem who adviced Gabooye women not to be light footted and fast such as the horse Dhoodi-Meer. Sidii dhoodi-meerkii Taleex haw dhaqaaqine. And for some reason the so called SCC clan were offended lool , am not sure which one they do repersent the horse ? or who