Fact: The top 5 leaders of newly founded Dervish Movemen(August 1899)t according to the colonial goverment: 1- Mullah offering to surrender, in his case and that of the Following: 2-Ahmed Warsame (known as Haji Sudi) 3-Deria Araale (Diiriye Caraale) 4-Deria Gure (Diiriye Guure) Only an unconditional surrender should be accepted, no gurantee of any kind as to future treatment being given. 5- Sultan Nuur (Suldaan Nuur Axmed Amaan) the late sultan of the Habar Yunis, may be guaranteed his life. J. Hayes-Sadler, His Britannic Majesty's Consul-General, Somali Coast Protectorate. Aden April 30th, 1901 4/5 are all members of the modern SNM clan as Afweyne Loyalist named us in this forum of theis.

lies : The Kacaan version Cabdisalaam Salwo , Siciid Samatar in their Essay The Daraawiish Resistence Following the failure of the Sir Wingate's peace initiative, in November 1909, the British authorities were forced to select the least costly policy short of complete abandonment of British Somaliland,[67] that of confining themselves to three coastal towns on the Red Sea: Berbera, Zeila and Bulhar.[68] To protect their subjects from the Daraawiish threat as they moved to the coastal area, they distributed firearms only to their "friendliest" dependants, the ***** clans,[69] thus leaving other clans who lived in the vulnerable area, such as the *********** clan, who had no treaty with the British.[70] The purpose of distributing arms was to persuade the ***** clans to organize themselves behind a leadership capable of counteracting the Daraawiish.[71] However, that policy incited a new wave of feuds and closing of accounts between various lineages and clans, and the interior lapsed into a bad situation. Soon the situation deteriorated due to a drought that affected a large proportion of the population. That period is known as "xaraama cuna" (the time of eating filth).[72] Notice how arming the somali clans in 1910 during the withdrewal to the coast, the Kacaan version only claimes the SNM clan was armed and not Khaatumo nor Puntland clan, despite the parliamentary evidence.

Facts: April 06 1910 arming the "freindlies" parliamentary debate the House of Lords. LORD LOVAT That policy seems to be a policy which met with success, and it involved no great expenditure of money or loss of life or of cattle to the inhabitants concerned. The point I want to get at is the attitude of the noble Earl towards these raided tribes themselves. He says there have been no appeals that we should remain. In 1885 we withdrew our garrison from a place not more than 150 or 200 miles from Hargeisa. I do not think there were any great shouts for those troops to remain, but within a few years of our withdrawal this district was twice invaded and no fewer than between ten and twelve thousand people were massacred. These Somalis are fully aware of what happened then, and that there is every chance that they will meet with the same fate at the hands of the very people who raided this district over twenty years ago. Under our protection these tribes have changed from a pastoral people to tillers of the soil. The result is that they have lost their habit of being fighting men, and in that respect are only a third of the value of the remaining Somalis who carry arms. They have built themselves houses and prospered under our œgis, and they will regard our taking away the troops as a gross betrayal. I know from personal experience that it is extremely difficult to teach any of the Somalis how to shoot, and the distribution of rifles among them is simply, as Lord Curzon pointed out, giving those guns away to be picked up by the Mullah on any day he may choose. Already 8,000 camels have gone from the one side, and the Dolbahanta have suffered the loss of 800 men. 585 §THE EARL OF CREWE Where does the noble Lord get his information about the 8,000 camels? LORD LOVAT I believe that is the number; and if the noble Earl will inquire he will find that the statement is correct. §THE EARL OF CREWE The noble Earl is aware that figures which come from Somaliland have to be taken with considerable caution? LORD LOVAT I am quite aware of that. Then as regards our prestige, matters are not so satisfactory in the centre of Africa to-day that we can suffer this loss of prestige through the abandonment of friendly tribes. I do not know that we can say that in certain portions of the Soudan the condition is absolutely satisfactory. I do not suppose the fact of our withdrawing the whole of our garrison from Somaliland will cause these people to think that England is stronger to-day. Then how are we going to reconcile our attitude in Somaliland with the continual outcry we make over the question of the Congo? To my mind it is nearly a parallel case. I am sorry that we are not to have any information as to Captain Cordeaux's views on the situation to-day. Judging from what appears on page 42 of the Blue-book he favoured the intermediate policy, and as far as one can make out that policy has met with considerable success. §THE EARL OF CREWE I do not want to make any mystery about Captain Cordeaux's views as far as I know them. I think I am representing them correctly when I say that he believed it would have been possible at one time to take a regular expedition against the Mullah without going to the enormous cost which others, and which I am bound to say we at home, conceive would be involved, and he desired, as the noble Lord sees from the Blue-book, that an intermediate policy should be carried out in the hope of the Mullah's power breaking down in the interval, of which there were signs of its doing. Although I have no right to speak as to Captain Cordeaux's opinion at this moment, I have no reason to suppose that he believes that the course we are taking is not practically the only course possible to us in the circumstances in the absence of a really active and forward policy. . §THE EARL OF CREWE The word I used was "forward" policy—a less offensive word, I think. §LORD LAMINGTON But that is a very different thing from retiring from a position which you have already gained and in connection with which you have entered into treaty arrangements with other people, especially when your withdrawal places those people in a position of great disadvantage. §THE EARL OF CREWE May I ask a question? The noble Marquess mentions the retention of some Indian troops at Bohotleh. That was not intended to be a permanent arrangement? §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE No. §THE EARL OF CREWE Except for that I confess the noble Marquess has, if I may say so, given a description more or less of what we are doing at this moment. §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE Then am I to understand that the principal caravan routes are to be kept open, and that a British officer is to have charge of the Protectorate and to arm and organise the tribes so as to render them able to protect themselves? §THE EARL OF CREWE That is what we hope has been done—that the tribes are now in a condition to defend themselves against outside attack. §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE The operation must have been a wonderfully rapid one. §THE EARL OF CREWE A great many of the tribes have been armed. Ever since the date of which the noble Marquess is speaking there has been a distinct tribal Militia. I cannot say it has been entirely successful, but so far as the arming of tribes is concerned that has gone on—I do not say on a very large scale—ever since. §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE The noble Earl may take it that the policy of 1904 was based on the assumption that although we could not give complete protection to the tribes—because there never could have been any intention of following every herd of cattle that goes to drink at a watering place to see that somebody does not raid it—we did not contemplate a retirement from the 592 obligations imposed upon us by the treaties of 1885. §THE EARL OF CREWE I do understand that at that time it was contemplated that there should be no troops of any kind at the coast, that the tribes should be encouraged to defend themselves, and that the keeping open of the caravan routes was not to be carried out by troops in the service of His Majesty but by the tribes themselves. §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE The best way in which I can put it is this. I remember distinctly that we had before us then the policy of what is now called coastal concentration, and after considering it we deliberately put it on one side. Of that I have no doubt whatever. We did so in great measure because we believed that the effects of such a policy upon our position in Abyssinia and in the Soudan would be most unfortunate. I remember, indeed, that we consulted Lord Cromer on the subject—I regret that the noble Lord is not in his place—and that he expressed an opinion adverse to the policy of retirement. Then I turn to the policy of His Majesty's Government. I am not at all sure that I ought to use the word policy in the singular, because, as far as I understand these Papers, the Government have had two policies before them and that within a recent time. The policy which we find described in the Blue-book, page 62, is a policy for the gradual and cautious reduction of the military force, and there is that most remarkable passage—I am not sure whether my noble friend quoted it—in which the Colonial Office informed General Manning that— the evacuation is not to be carried out unless and until the friendly tribes can reasonably be said to be in a position to hold their own against the Mullah. It was quoted a few days ago by the representative of the Colonial Office in the other House of Parliament. Is that the present policy of His Majesty's Government? §THE EARL OF CREWE Undoubtedly. §THE MARQUESS OF LANSDOWNE Does the noble Earl maintain that at this moment, when we are receiving accounts of bodies of friendly tribesmen being cut up, these tribes can reasonably be said to be in a position to hold their own? 593 §THE EARL OF CREWE I did not wish to waste time, but perhaps I had better read the telegrams. In a telegram, dated March 18, and received in the Colonial Office on the 20th of that month, Sir W. Manning stated that he had received information that the Mijjertein Isa and Mahmoud on March 7 raided the Mullah's live stock, capturing 1,000 camels near Halin, killing many dervishes, and capturing twenty-three rifles. That was a success. Then comes the failure of which the noble Lord spoke. In a further telegram dated March 29, Sir W. Manning stated that he had on that day received information of an attack by the dervishes on a party of the Yahelli combination of Hadega, that the friendlies were surprised by a large force, and that there were many killed on both sides. He stated further that the friendlies had retired to Eil Dab, and that among the killed were two chiefs. That is not quite the same thing as the sort of massacre which was described in the newspapers.

Naxar, I hate to purst your bubble but for the case of your clan you were liberated from the Dervish and that was the happiest days of your clan, Feburary 4th 1920. At the least the British were feeding your starving refugees in Berbera , armed you in 1910 to defend your territories from the raven Dervish and 99% of your clan were pro-British throughout the Dervish years. those are facts. And i can quote the parliamentary debates of 1911, 1912, 1913, 1914 where the house of lords debated the plight of the poor Khaatumo clan who were dubbed "the ismaaclia of the somal"

Naxar, Thats more like it accpet the facts and wash your head of Ismaaciil Mire and the rest of the fantasy you folks keep parading in all of your websites, you were nothing but foot soliders. The Devrish were not fighting for anything they were just Al-Shabaab of early 1900 thats all. In fact Al-Shabaab have done more fighting and less evil then the soo called Dervish.

A-Khadar, Stop crying nobody is shuting up nor can you shut any body up by simply repeating shut-up. I can tell you don't even know what you are talking about any novice can tell you that Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise quoted MCneill's book and Douglas Jardin's book and even G.F.Archer and Lord Ismay's Report On Somaliland campign of 1914-1917. Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise interviewed his own clan, thats not history thats slef-image PR, out of the 13 men he interviewed non included the Mullah's clan and family even, 11 were from Khaatumo and 2 from other Somalis . What Aw Jaamac wrote was a make-up story fro his clan not a history.

Naxar Nugaaleed, So if its proven that Ismaaciil Mire was nothing but a minor junior commander, and Khaliifa and Ibraahim Buqul were the real deal, and Suudi was the second man of the Dervish for 21 years and no other, to you thats a discredit??? Up to 1920 there was not a single Khaatumo person who ranked high in the Dervish movement , never mind the founding days in 1899 till 1904 Jidbaale, even during the last year of the Devrish Sir G.F.Archer issued an award for killing or capturing top Dervish , in his letter to boqor Cusmaan he ranked the most valuable Dervish as the following: 1- Mullah Mohammed Abdulle Hassaan award 10,000 Ruubiya 2- Xaaji Suudi Shabeele award 5,000 Ruubiya and up 3- Ibraahim Xasan "buqul" award ranging from 5000-down 4- Abshir Dhoore award ranging from 5000- and down Thats real history, not Ismaaciil Mire looting the Dulmadoobe herds and composing a poem demanding the she-camel from the herds of his own looted sub-clan. how interesting of a logic, this is reaffirmation of the real history of the Dervish, not the 1974 Kacaan version your folks worship. So stop whining and learn the facts , or prove to us through a solid argument whats wrong with it.

Yes Aw Jaamac lied because he quoted the whiteman and cheery picked their books to fabricate a history for your Khaatumo clan. If the whiteman was a liar, why did your Aw Jaamac quoted them in his books, it doesn't make sense. AK you are desprate because you know and i know you been fed lies and it hurts you to be helpless and be unable to rebut any of these facts, so you use the "gaal" card. I was waiting for the image you claimed to debunk that too but you got scared, because you know that picture and you thought you can pull that on me , in fact i have the book and its beside me as iam writing this. The pathology that your elders have inveted for you are all lies kid, so i advice you to give it up while you have the chance.

Iam not angery your folks are angery them and their Mr Admin, iam in fact amused by this silly little game.

childish insult such as??? mind if you quote me mr admin??

We know you are Xaaji Xunjuf himself, ma ankii baa noo ciyaartay sheekadaadii somalinet ku waashay , Emperor iyo Khalid Ali aka gacanyare. naxar nugaaleed aka gacanyare, wlc se ruwaayada naga daa,

Lies : Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise's comical description of the running of the Mullah and Abshir Dhoore instead of stating simple fact he made the fleeing sexy by describing their horses how they turned them before the gallobed away running and not fighting( the entire point was not to mention the 2 SNM clan Devrish commanders who fought bravely and died at Taleex's gate) : "Darwiish la yidhaahdo Maxmuud Xoosh, oo aanu galabtaas kula kulanay meeshaas , hadalkiisana la qaban karo, wuxuu yidhi Sayidku galabtaas wuxuu ku joogay faras la yidhaahdo(Dhibic)oo loogu talo galay inuu cadowga kaga baxsado, xoog iyo dheeraynba,Abshir Dhoore oo maalintaasi ku joogay faras la odhan jiray Shaluu-maray oo hadba gees u wiifinaaya" loool wiifinaya

Fact: The Battle of Taleex between tribal levies led by A.Gibb and Risaldar Haji Muse Farah Vs Dervish led by Haji Sudi and Ibrahim Buqul: Meanwhile, to return to the Somaliland Camel Corps and the friendlies, the latter of whom were watching the gates of Tale, where the Mullah was now definitely located. On the night of the 5/6th February, in a fight outside the walls, Haji Sudi and Ibrahim Boghl, two of the dervish leaders, right-hand men of the Mullah, were killed. No serious attack was made on the forts by our mounted men, as, had they been seriously held, the Govern- ment troops must have suffered heavy casualties ; a most serious matter in a country like Somaliland, owing to the lack of conveniences and difficulty of transport. Ref: Douglas Jardin

Lies: Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise 1976. Afbakayle: Afbakayle waa goobtii ugu horysay ee dagaal ku dhaxmaray Ingiriis iyo Darawiish 1901,bishii Juun 3dii. Afbakayle waxuu ahaa bali hilaada 43 mayl laascaanood ujira,baligaa waxaa barigii hore loo yaqaanay Afbakayle hase ahaatee maalinkii dagaalku kadhacay ilaa hada waxaa loo yaqaanaa Haradhiig. Ciiabada ingiriiska waxaa u qorshaysnaa muda hore in ay kusoo duulaan Daraawiish hasa yeeshee dib bay udhaceen,taana waxaa sabbay xiligii roobka oo dib udhacay,waxayna ka cabsadeen in ciidanka biya-la aani ku dhacdo,arinkaasuna Daraawiish laftirkooda dan buu u ahaa,maxaa yeelay xoola lay bay ahaayeen. Bishii abriil Sanadkii 1901 ayaa Ingiriisku col sadex madax ah soo saaray,waxaana cidmadiisa abaandoola u ahaa Gashaanle dhexe (Swayne) Waxaa tiradooda ama maamulkoodu u habaysnaayeen siduu sheegay Xoghayihii maamulka Ingriiska dalka Soomaliya Dougls jardine nooca oogu haboon ee loo diyariyo ciidan dulaaya,waxayna ka koob naayeen dhmaan qaaybaha ciidaka.Ciidankaas waxaa tiradiisa lagu sheegay in ay kor udhafayeen 4000,- tira ahaan khilaaf baa kajiree ogoow- .waxaan meesha ka madhanyn madaafiicada noocyadeeda kala duwan, -sidaas waxaa qoray Cabdizuur marzuuq,Awjaamac ,Dr mubaarak waxyaababa haku kala duwanaadeene. Amin barqa ah sanadkuna yahay 1901 ayaa fooda laysku daray baliga layidhaahdo Haradhiig,sida caadada u ah ninka mujaahidka ah ee ilaahay dartiis udagalamaaya ,waxaa uu rumaysnaa ninka Darwiishka ah in uu laba mid noqdaa,cadawga in laga adkaado oo uu hub wanaagsan kafurto dabadeedna asagoo lib wata goobta u hadho,ama in goobta la dhigo oo ilaahay janadiisa doonto. Dagaalkii waa bilowday ingiriisku qorigiisii, Girligaanka,ahaa wuxuu saaray buur yar oo Daraawiish korkoda ah ciidankiina afarta jahuu ukala jeediyay.Waxaa la wariyay muda gaban gudaheed in Daraawiishi cadawgii xerada ugu galeen,ayagoo aan cabsi inaba lagu ogayn,dabadeedna Ingiriis kabahaygii ma aragtay ay ka dhacday.Buug layidhaahdo “Taa,ir mina-somah” oy wada qoreen Xaaji Cabdi-raxmaan Sayid iyo Cabdi-sabuur marsuuq waxaa kuyaal in Daraawiish goobtaas 70 lagaga dilay 80 lagaga dhaawacay.

Facts : Afbakayle 1901 “Early next morning our patrols began coming in at intervals with prisoners, and we heard for the first time of Captain M-Neill's fight at Sanala, and the accounts they gave us turned out subsequently to be very correct. More patrols were sent out during the course of the morning, and several small skirmishes took place with stray parties of the enemy, and we secured about 20 horses. At I p.m. numerous horsemen were seen by our patrols passing along the open plains to the north, on the far side of the ridge, and evidently making for the central opening to our valley, whilst some 4,000 odd spearmen were heading for the western entrance. As The Camel Corps and Mounted Infantry were sent on ahead, whilst we proceeded with all our transport to cross the afore- mentioned nullah, which consisted of a pre- cipitous descent into a river-bed, and an equally precipitous ascent on the far side. Barely half the column was across this when the Mullah, Sultan Nur, and Hadji Sudi, with some 200 horsemen, appeared through the northern opening to the valley, and wheel- ing into two lines came straight for the rear of our column. We subsequently discovered that they were unaware of our presence, and were making for a pass which was a short cut to the Mullah's headquarters at Wayla-hed. On their dis- covering us, they immediately turned about and rode straight down the valley, upon which our rearguard fired a volley, but they were too far off for this to have much effect. Ref: Captain McNeil : In Pursuit if the mad mullah 1903.

Xiinin Finiin how is this my history??? its books writen by others, iam just exposing your uncle's lies.

The Kacaan Fantasy and Aw Jaamac's new history from his 1976 book. Fardhiddin: Fardhiddin waxaa ay kamid tahay goobaha ugu caansan, Fardhiddin waxaa ay kutaalaa howdka udhaxeeya Garowe iyo Laascaanood. Kolkuu Ingriisku ogaaday Daraawiish xoogeeda,hubkeeda,raga udagaalamaya geesinimadooda,iyo in ay yihiin Naftood hurayaal iyo iswada hurayaal aan il libiqsanaynin oo gobanimo ama jano mid uun ay u joogto, xoolo iyo fardo kufilana ay haystaan,wuxuu goostay in duulaan uusan waxba lahadhin qaadaa kuna weeraraa xaruntooda si loo cidhibtiraa dhaqdha qaaqooda. Xurunta Daraawiish markaa waxay kutaalaa Fardhiddin oo kutaala Garawe iyo laascaanood dhaxdooda,saan horay u soo xusnay. Sida lawariyay ama lagaran karo,Ingiriisku dhulka ree miyigu dganyahay iyo dabeecada Soomaalida midna ma aqoon,sidaas daraadeed aadame dhuuni qaate lagama waayee waxaa hor kacaayay dad Soomaali ah oo Ingiriiska Gadh wadeen u ahaa,howdkana aad ukala yaqaan. Daraawiishu waa ka warhaysay colkaas markuu soo anba baxay. waxa lasheegay in laba dumar ah oo Soomaaliyeed Daraawiishta soo war galiyeen kolkii ay dhaqdha-qaaqa cadaowga dareemeen, Daraawishna heegan ayay sii gashay intii ciianka Ingiriisku wadada kusoo jiray. Bishii luuliyo 16dii 1901 ayaa colkii Ingiriisku Xaruntii Daraawishta weerar ku ekeeyay, hase ahaatee habeenkii galinkisii hore ayaa Daraawiishtu meeshii ka guurtay oo maatidii iyo xoolihii ka qixiyeen,Ciidankoodiina heegan bay ka dhigeen. Laba buurood oo wadadii colka Ingiriisku soomari lahaa labada dhinac ka xiga howdna ah ayay kaynta dhaxdeedii u galeen,markii waagu dilaacay oo ay hiimamow tahay ayaa ciidankii cadawga oo raabe raabe u socda wadadii soomaray ,asagoo ku talajira in uu xarunta qabsado. Hase ahaatee dagaal bay kubilaabeen,kalana hormareen,ilaa iyo barqo dheer ayaa rasaas laysku qasaayay,kadibna gacmaha ayaa lasula tagay, inkastoo labada geesoodba geeridu ayna hayb lahayn,hadana daraawiish ayaa goobtii u hadhay,dab iyo maal wixii gaalada soo duushay wadatayna waa ay ka reebteen,iyagoo lib iyo galad toona nina ugu haynin. Waxaa laga wariyay Darwiish dagaalkaas kujiray, oo la odhan jiray Jaamac Ismaaciil Dhoon-***********,-wuxuu yidhi gaal aanan magiciisa garnayn asay Daraawiish ubixisay Af-carbeedle,oo colka Ingiriska aad u dagaal galinaayay, ayaa Darwiish la odhanjiray Xaaji Maxamuud Dheri oo geesinimo loo ogaa kadibna dagaalkii Cagaarwayne ku shihiidaywaana isla reerkii aan soo xusnee- ayaa ku dhaartay inuu kujanatago gaalkan maslimiinta dhibay ee sheekadisuna soo caan baxaday, Xaajigii intuu Qorigiisii garabka gashaday,Seeftiina gacanta midig ku qabsaday ayuu colkii dhaxqaaday asagoon cabsi lagu arkayn ,in kastoo gaalkii Af-carbeedle ahaa xabado badaan bastoolad kaga soo riday Xaajiga , hadana dan muusan kagaline intuu gacanta oola tagay ayuu Seeftii kurka kaga jaray. Xaaji Jaamac ismaaciil Dhoon oo sheekadan wariyay wuxuu yidhi labadayda indhood waxaan ka qaaday isgoo Darwiishkaasi madixii gaalka wato oo uu luqunta faraskiisa ka laadlaadiyay. Sheekadaas Xaaji Maxamuud waxaan ka qaadanaynaa geesinimadii ay lahaayeen mujaahidiintii Daraawiish, iyo sida ay ugu adkaayeen mabda, ooda ku salaysan u hiilinta Diinta islaamka iyo Ladagaalanka Isticmaarada. Ref: Buuggii Taariikhdii Daraawiishta iyo Sayid Maxamed Cabdille Xasan ee uu qoray Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise (1976)

Lie # 2 the battle of Fardhidin July 1901. Facts: “On getting this news I moved my force from Bohotele via Yaheyl and Weyla Hedd to Firdiddin, and attacked the Mullah at later place. The Mullah's Mijjertein rifelmen were in considerable strength with Lebel and Martini-henry rifles. His force were however scattered, and he himself was driven back into Italian territory.The Mijjertein lost heavily, and also the Mullah's own family. His brother-in-law, Gaibdeed, was killed, as well as two sons-in-law, Haji Sudi's brother and nephews, &c. Sultan Nur's camels and the Mullah's cattle were captured. The pursuit was carried on into the bush in the Haud”. Refrence: Command Papers volume 69 1902.Page 15.

This the account of the incident submitted by Sir G.H.Summer Richard Corfeild right hand man and a witness to the battle of Dulmadoobe. “The force marched south-east towards Ber, and, on the road, retreating tribesmen reported that the Dervishes in large numbers, under the command of Ow Yussuf bin Abdulla Hassan, the Mullah's brother, having raided and pillaged in all directions, were withdrawing the looted stock in the direction of Idoweina, thirty miles southeast of Burao, which they had made their rendezvous.the force was halted eleven miles northeast of Idoweina; and here fifteen men of the Constabulary, mounted on ponies, who had been sent on ahead, confirmed the news which had been received on the road. They had exchanged shots with the Dervishes whose strength they estimated at over 2,000 footmen all armed with rifles and 150 horsemen. At 8 p.m. the Constabulary moved slowly on again, and at 9 p.m. they halted for the night within four miles of Idoweina. A zariba was made, and the Constabulary were formed up in column of sections, with the Maxim gun mounted and ready for action on the left front and the camels in the centre. All military precautions were taken to guard against a night attack. From the enemy camp occasional shots were heard throughout the night, and the African sky, radiant with a myriad stars, was also aglow with the reflection of the Dervish camp-fires. The Constabulary were joined by some 300 Dolbahanta who were anxious to recover their lost stock from the Dervishes; and some ammunition from the precious reserve was distributed to them. The immediate object was to prevent the Dervishes from driving off the stock they had looted from the Dolbahanta, and the ultimate object was to restore our damaged prestige. In both these objects we failed lamentably. Refernce/Soruce 5- Captain G.H Summers On The Action at Dul-Madoba 9th August 1913. 6-Captain C Dunn On The Action at Dul-Madoba 9th August 1913. For the Dervishes got away with the stock*,Estimated at 5,000-6,000 camels and 20,000-30,000 sheep. The numbers were so large that the Dervishes had to send to the haroun for assistance to drive in their loot.”

The Afweyne Loyalist couldn't take the heat so they invented some 'imaginary" insult pretext to close the topic. But whats the point , can they delet all the books?? i have quoted half a dozen books. Lets began all over again, Ismaaciil Mire and Koofil and how Koofil died for the people of Buhoodle. comming up,

libaax, why not just be honest and say your clanist emotion have taken over you mode responsibilities. Why hide behind "don't insult forumers" known well how your clan members behave in this forum.

I don't think you have a case against Siilaanyo, you just hate his clan , a pathology your kind suffers from

Budh-Layner, Siilaanyo have steped down and transfered the Kulmiye pary leadership and he will not seek a second term.

whats this sudden southern blossming of love with the old SNM vet.??

The union lasted less then 9 month , by march 1961 most somaliland voted no