Yes and that is Somaliland and that land has a goverment that was chosen by the majority and they have to respect that. If they don't and cry day in and day out Dervish this and English that and Somalia , they will be deported out of somaliland along their camels and the bricks of Taleex and the bones of Carro Seed Magan to Shangaani.

It don't matter even if the Chines support Khaatumo nuts, what matters is if they have a legall case that merit their position which they don't.

Taleexi, You are a small bug who threatening an elephant, you will be crushed little bug.

You are a Khaatumo Nut, don't act like you are a Chines who support these people out of pure reason.

I can tell when I see a Khaatumo Nut, no southerners will waste his energy trying to defend the clanist Khaatumo Nuts position. Was it about their love for Soomaalinmo when they first rejected Somaliland and joined puntland in 1998??? no its all about clan , and now when Puntland kicked them in the face strangly they found a new love and that is Sheekh Shariif and his Italian Somalia. These people are Nuts simple

farah22, I never reason with Khaatumo Nuts, you can talk till the fat lady drops dead from singing, you are driven by sheer tribal hate and i know it and you know it, Somaliland is here to stay and Khaatumo nuts can whine cry wail to the end of life on the face of earth at the end of the day you are nothing but a loud rude 1 sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub clan in somaliland.

The UNF won 25,000 votes , the SNL won 56,000 vote. The Khaatumo Nuts won 0. and Cigaal then robbed 12 seats from NUF and gave it to Khaatumo Nuts. and Micheal Mariano party only 1 seat. Now some 52 years later these Nuts think they worth that much.

Somaliland's Last Year as a Protectorate by Sir DOUGLAS HALL, K.C.M.G The lateG overnoro f the SomalilandP rotectoratgea ve the addresst hatf ollows to a joint meeting of the Royal African Society and the Royal Commonwealth Society on December 1, 1960. Sir Theodore Pile, K.C.M.G. took the chair The Somali National League kept their thought largely to them-selves, at any rate in public, while the National United Front published their displeasure in speeches. It was not long before the new party showed signs of seeking an association with the Somali National League, and a short time before the election a formal alliance was made. This was followed rapidly by the publication of an association between the National United Front and the small number of members of the Somali Youth League. The stage was then set for a straight contest between two pairs of parties, one member of each pair being considerably larger than the other, but not a great deal of difference lying between the combined contestants. The election presented some thorny and worrying problems of maintenance of law and order. There were to be over 150 polling stations, any one of which could become a major danger point at short notice, especially if either the fall of rain or plain politics should result in last minute movements of nomads of opposing parties or tribes. Every policeman and every soldier in the Protectorate was deployed ; and I would like to pay tribute to the efforts made by the political leaders to ensure that their supporters behaved them-selves. One of our main worries was how the women would behave. They had no vote, but they were surprisingly politically-conscious, and there is nothing that an administrator dislikes more than a riot of women. However, the Somalis themselves decided that the election should be orderly, and it was. There were no incidents worthy of the name and for the whole of February 17th not a woman was to be seen. They had all been kept at home by their husbands. Nearly 82,000 men cast their votes, a number which is at least 80 per cent and probably more nearly 90 per cent of the total adult male population. The result was unusual and unexpected in detail. The Somali National League/ United Somali Party combine secured approximately 56,000 votes as against 25,000 won by their opponents. But the votes of the winners gained them 32 out of the 33 seats. It cannot often happen that a party which can claim nearly one-third of all the votes cast, gains one seat only as a result. The detailed results showed twenty seats for the Somali National League, twelve for the United Somali Party, and one, Michael Mariano himself, for the opposition. Immediately after the election, Mohamed Haji Ibrahim Egal was formally acknowledged as the Leader of both Somali National League and the United Somali Party, and I was left in no doubt as to whom I should consult about the appointment of elected ministers. He gave me his advice on 26th February, and I appointed him as Minister of Local Government, Ahmed Haji Dualeh as Minister of Natural Resources, and Ali Gerad Jama and Haji Ibrahim Nur as Ministers of Works and Communications and Social Services respectively. I also appointed Yusuf Ismail Samatar as an Assistant Minister in the Ministry of Social Services. The first two were members of the Somali National League, and the second two members of the United Somali Party. The Assistant Minister belonged to the Somali National League. With one exception, all were fluent speakers of English and had had considerable formal education. Haji Ibrahim Nur, although not completely happy in English, was a fluent speaker and writer of Arabic and, as a successful trader, had a fund of experience which he quickly began to put at the disposal of the government of which he had become a part. It was not long before the promises about immediate independence, which had been made in pre-election speeches and in the Somali National League manifesto, began to catch up on their makers. I do not imply that there was any feeling against the attainment of Independence ; but a number of Somalis -politicians, civil servants, traders and elders-believed that there would be great advantage in a short period of consolidation and the gaining of experience before the next and the biggest step was taken. But they were in a small minority, and it was not possible for them to come out into the open with pleas for delay. I have heard it said that we officials in the Government did not know what was happening and which way the wind was blowing. This was not true. I think we saw the way the picture was forming before some of the political leaders. Events soon started moving rapidly; a motion asking for Independence by 1st July was passed in the Legislative Council and visits were paid to Mogadishu by leading political figures, who returned to Hargeisa with assurances from their colleagues in Somalia that amalgamation of the two countries was a mutual wish.

Its wasn't a dark day, weeks or even month before the union Somaliland delegation to the south accepted all the conditions: 1- Thaat both top position will be given to the south 2- that Mogadisho will be the capital 3- the top milliteray commander will be from the south. It was us who robbed ourselves, the south didn't care much about "somaliweyn"

There are only around 3 images or pictures of the top Dervishes only 1 image namely thats of Darwiish Cabdi Dheere a 13 years Khusuusi from 1906-1919 was used by the Kacaan in Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise's book " Tariikhda Daraawiishta iyo Sayid M.C.Xasan" These 2 images are the the other 2 , i have vainly tried to search for Darwiish Cabdilaahi Shixiri who quit the movement in 1906 after 7 years of been on of its top leaders, iam sure some where his picture can be found , he was interviewd by both Itali and the British in 1906 till 1909 , so iam sure his image are somewhere. Suldaan Nuur Axmed Amaan one of the founders of the movement 1896. The Sultan ( tall bearded man with the Spear) seeking medical help from an American expedition team in the plains of Tuuyo 1896. The tomb/shrine of the sultan in Taleex 2011 crowded by houses of the Khaatumo Nuts who were told the horse of the Mullah Dhoodi-Meer is en-tombed there by the revisionnest Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise. http://archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Atexts%20AND%20subject%3A%22Suldaan.Nuur.Axmed.Amaan%22 A long buried Short history of the suldan, the Kacaan chose to for obvious clanist reasons.. Darwiish Abshir Dhoore a later top Dervish 1920.

Simply because you hate somaliland doesn't make it a legall case, Somaliland has a goverment a goverment that was elected by the majority people and that goverment will either disolve the union or reaffrim the union regardless of the wishes of the fringe minorities. The goverment of somaliland in 1960 decided to opt for a union and that same goverment today along its people decided to go back to its status pre-July 1 1960. Now what case 1 sub-sub-sub clan has against a goverment that was elected by the majority?? nothing. I named you Khaatumo Nuts because your entire politics revolve around dead fabricated history, the AU charter supports even somaliland claim. What case you people have other then been an angry minorities who fought against the SNM and were allied with the last regime? non. Today the world recognize that Siilaanyo is the head of somaliland goverment and he repersent the majority and thats enough, the Khaatumo nuts and soo called Maakhir can wail and whine from the prepheriy but wether they like it or not Somaliland'd borders will not be altered, if they wish to be part of Maqdisho then Maqdisho is located in different country let them by all means go there.

Whats the point?? somaliland alwas cry and whine about these things and never for once demanded the capture of Morgan, Tuke or even Samatar, whats the point?? i just never understand my pepole sometimes.. we don't need books, we know who they are and in fact recently one of the masterminders of those crimes Axmed Jeengali paased away in USA and guess what Siilaanyo sent his family a ulogy?

The Khaatumo Nuts and soo called Maakhir need a legal case , you nuts can't just add a somaliland territory to the Italian part. You can only do so if somaliland does a refrundum and you tiny 4 viilages beats Gebilay in voting yes for another union. Or you can do it through the gun and fight it off and defeat somaliland troops using your horses and a sling-shot and recite your Mullah's diatribes.

How come where Siilaanyo signed it only says "president of Somaliland" and where Shariif signed " the word goverment" is added??? if i was Siilaanyo i would have demanded to add the word goverment to somaliland. But Siilaanyo and Mr Bidaar are not that sharp when it comes to these things.

These pepole are out supporting what they called somaliweyn?? so that too victory for somaliland Xaaji Suufi?? waar ninkani maba miyir qabo walee.. wax kaste wuxu u arkaa Guul for somaliland xataa dad u mudaahraadaya Somaliweyn oo macanheedu yahay no-somaliland.

That border betwen somaliland and somalia was nullified by who??? of course by somaliland in 1960 and now the same goverment renacted the old borders.

So they can join Italian Somalia , a territory that was created by Italians but not Somaliland a territory that was a British protectrate!!!! . Thats why i named you Khaatumo Nuts. There no logic at all to any argument from these people, why not just be honest and say "ew hate the SNM clan" so any rubbish pretext will be used.

The Khaatumo Nuts live in a Matrix , where the English ghosts still haunts them. Everything to them is about English borders , English and Dervish , cowboys and Indians and horses. They are truely nuts, These people who constantly talk about such things and beleive in such narrative know very little about these facts, for example the British signed costal agreements with coastal clans not Burco or Ceerigaabo or Hargaysa or Laas Caanood. In fact Hargaysa was only added to the British protectrate in the 1930s, so is Las Anod and Las Qori that border was formed in the 1930's it has nothing todo with the 1880;s tribal agreements,. The Khaatumo Nuts were regarded as British subject via the Dervish wars 99% of the Khtaaumo clan regarded themselves a British subjects and in 1931 when the border in east was been made all tribal cheifs agreed to join the Khaatumo clan all eastern land to somaliland, now they can never deny that so they instead go to the 1880s coastal clan agreement , one can use their logic and extend it to almost any clan in somaliland even withn in the so called snm clan lool

The Unsang Heros and Liberators Of Taleex Feb 1920. Notice the UNION JACK flag Those soldiers were the unsang heros that have liberated Taleex in Feburary 1920 at last puting and end to the 15 years looting and killing spree that "Aw Jaamac and Jaale Idaajaa " celebrate as the glorious Daraawiish. This image has been used by the Khaatumo Nuts as a coat-of-arms for the clanist hut and shack outposts of Taleex and Buhoodle. Its ironic and almost pethatic using the images of Somaliland Police force and the Tribal Levy at gate of Taleex while at the same time celebrating the defeated pirates called Dervishes. The Coat-Of-Arms of the Khaatumo Nuts The Khaatumo Nuts are using the image of the soldiers who liberated them while celebrating the fort that trotured them included also the UNION JACK in the middle of the troops assmbled , these are truly NUTS. wanted dead or alife by the Somali Histroical Society These tow were the architectuereres of the civil war, these tow men have hijacked the Somali history and invented the "narrative" that caused the civil wars and still push the Khaatumites Nuts to the brink of madness.

XX, what are you celebrating?? i don't see any mention of somaliland. We had an argument and you told me to wait, and you are ululating , what the hell man are you slow or what, we talked and agreed to talk till we agree to talk??? what kind of non sense is this , the 3rd clause is 3- we agreed that we have met in UAE loool is that some sort of a historical event mr foox? of course they met in UAE this is a silly Indian movie

My favourit poem is Saalax-Ma-Lay Diray's challenge to the sultan of Hobyo folks during 1905. Cali Sharmaarke invited him to Hobyo from east Africa, and the challenge was "golle-ka-fuul" poetry, Sharmaarke invited one of their best and the women folk fixed the place and Cali Sharmaarke gave the first hit to Saalax since he was the guest, and Saalax began his poetic threat as: . Ma dhurgoho'e waan kala dhilaa dhuubka maansada'e Ma dhuunto'e dharaartoo cad baan dhalasho baanaaye Abidkayba gole dhaygag leh, baan dhaaxa ka hadlaaye Ma dhaygago'e hadalkii la dhaho waw dheg jebiyaaye Ma dhursugo'e dhiillada horaan kaga lisaa dhiige Ma dhiifee dhib niman ii lahayn waa iska dhaafaye Hadba kii dhirrici igu falaan kaga dhafoorshaaye Ma dhaawoco'e nabar loo dhintaan ula dhugmaystaaye Dhallinyaro turbaysiyo waxaan dhaafay shuqulkooda Ama hadal nin meel kala dhacaan sii dhadhamo yeelan Abidkayba kaa kama dharsoo dhaawadaan idhiye Meel laba qabiilo is dhacdaan dhaxi ka yeedhaynin Dhacsiinada halkaan uga bartaan dhawrayaa weliye Caawana wixii soo dhiciyo dhiilladaan sugiye Waar Dhalanteed layguma sabee dhool ma ka hillaacay. . Dhalanteed = khyaali , layguma sabee= layguma siree Dhool= iliga foolka ku xiga ma ka hilaacay= ma ka qoslay Classic versess to prove the power of his poems.

First of all the term "rebuttle" means to refute and its not an insult. Secondly you have to clear your brain from Afweyne Dervish myth, as stated in this four pages of factual history you hold no better merit then us when it comes to this so called Daraawiish, you and Xaabsade and your ilk think Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise's 1976 little booklet will give you a history that you were its mere footnotes. About Somaliland, Somaliland is a legall entity no different then Kenya or Jabuti , what you need is a legal ground not just "i hate clan SNM" and " I use to be Devrish Aw Jaamac told me so". So far you people have no case period.

Xabaasade's grand father Faarax Dacay was a British agent and was killed by the Dervish in 1911 , and also his greatgrandfather Maxamud Sugulle was excuted in Ilig due to spying. It proves my point , even the jaajuusiin think they were Dervish because Afweyne invented a new history for them, Xaabsade's uncle was named Koosafaare Faarax Dacay, despite the death of his father serving the english as a Jaajuus when Afweyne founded "the somali dervish" poilce in the 1970's he installed Koosafare son of Faarax Dacay...the excuted British Jaajuus as the head of the new Dervish police. And i have all the books and evidence for that too. http://www.nooonbooks.com/ar/books/read/7407/127 Thats the 2 pages (127-128) regarding the death of Faarax Dacay (Faarax Maxamud Sugulle) the title is " Laas Daar and the killing of Faarax Maxamud" this part was writen via Cabdikariim Sayid Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan's memoier So we should teach in somaliland schools the spying history of Xaabsade's grandfather lool he is doing the same job as his grandfather within somaliland.

Liibaan, You dare not rebuttle what i have stated so far, so instead you inject somaliland politics into this. This has nothing to do with somaliland politics, in Somaliland the majority clans which are at least 89% chose to go back to their June 26 status. Now you and i know you hate us even when we were in the same somali republic, this has not began now. So don't hide behind this sudden amore for somalinimo. Eastern Sool and Eastern Sanaag are part and parcel of somaliland if you are civilized enough we will make a refrendum , if you refuse refrendum and chose war i will make sure you will cry for the rest of your life for ever.

Fabrication : Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise implying that the Mullah began his struggle just to save the a converted childern of the so called SNM clan. On his way to his maternal home, he passed near Daymoole, a few kilometres from Berbera, where there was a French catholic mission established in 1891. The mission, with two fathers, one brother and 69 boys in an orphanage looked after destitute children. He asked a little boy, "What is your name?". The boy replied, "John Cabdullaahi." Then the Sayid asked, "What clan you are?". The boy answered to Sayid Maxamed, "I belong to the clan of the father." This convinced Sayid Maxamed that the colonialists were christianising their children. That event remained in the memory of the young Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan and led him to focus his campaign against the idea of Christian colonization and against the Qadiriya's ineptitude and their tolerance of the colonial rulers. Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise. Fact: One of the books that Aw Jaamac Cumar Ciise used to write his myth conteradicts his fiction, namely "Thaair Min Al Soomaal by Cabdisabuur Marzuuq 1964 Cairo" That same book be-lies his fictious clanist claim. I will quote the page from the same book-online http://www.nooonbooks.com/ar/books/read/7407/20 In page 20 Cabisabuur Marzuuq states that the people of Berbera alone destroyed the Daymuule mission and that the Mullah was not at all invloved in the incident nor has he ever set foot on that town. Aw Jaamac even abused his own sources.