Watch people coming out of the woodwork calling reer gedo "condoms" in spite of them knowing what their interests are and strategizing for it.

Firstly according to the excerpts of the constitution posted by samsung, there is currently no way that the president can be impeached there is no constitutional court or upper house of parliament that is to be appointed by yet non existing state entities. Secondly if every action taken by the federal government is subject to impeachment then every federal government will be unable to carry out its mandate, and only turmoil can be expected from the center, mind you that this call for impeachment is being made before even the new cabinet has been voted on by the federal parliament. What I do know and am aware of being currently resident in east africa with access to kenyan newspapers is the beatification of Ahmed Madoobe by Kenyan news agencies to something other than what he is, a rag tag militia leader, who has been consistent only on his lack of consistency and his willingness to get into bed with any faction including al-shabaab, remember that his falling out with them was an economic issue over control of kismayu port receipts, during that time the vaunted kab iyo lax alliance was non-existent although as is the norm in Somali politics new alignments are being made on a daily basis. Unfortunately we are being asked to believe that the president is a tribalist on the basis of "inside information" that only abtigis is privy to, that the prime-minister is being used as a "condom" on the basis of "inside information" that again only abtigis is privy to, I would think that we as SOL'ers would be tired by the rigmarole of individuals having "inside information" that turns out to be either conventional wisdom that even a shoe shiner in front of kilimanjaro restaurant in eastleigh can impart or fevered imagination that pans out to be fundamentally untrue during every election, cabinet reshuffle or major decision. The past few weeks we have seen nicknames ascribed to the president and now analogies to the prime-minister that we thought would go out of the window at the end of the transitional era, instead an intensity and flare up is all we see. What warrants this? If indeed the president is blundering on this matter the parliament which includes members from jubba land and the greater clan confederacy are there to provide the appropriate checks and balances on the actions of the president or are all the 275 members as well are supporters of the "HAG" conspiracy? Why talk like an illiterate jahiil when there are so many other avenues to a peaceful resolution of the matter, either through the appointment of a commission by parliament it self, a censure of the president by a majority of parliament, or a grand conference held under the aegis of IGAD/AMISOM/U.N to be held with in the country or where ever might bring a sense of comity to discussions that shall bring a final resolution to the method and development of a federal state in the jubboyinka? Indeed will actions such as appointing a different port manager from another clan or different district commissioners in Xamar be all that is needed to short circuit the tide of baseless invective streaming against not the president but the entire federal republic, parliament and constitutional structure, since it seems this all that is being called for? Instead we are being treated to BOOM! statements of varying degrees of viciousness, violence, and untruthfulness [ refer to gobaanle in kismayu e.t.c], even abtigis stated that during this impasse no one should de-legitimize either the Federal republic or the jubbaland process and certain segments of the jubbaland communities, although I doubted the sincerity of that position because of the lazy reasoning behind the final paragraphs, I would like to know clearly and in an easily verifiable manner what the "inside information" he proffesers is, that could cause such a clear 180 degree turn, until then this man in the fashion of an ethiopian funeral is wailing and gnashing teeth in a manner to cause bystanders hearts to break, with out even knowing the deceased with any degree of familiarity. As to the issue of the charcoal exportation it shall be sold, with proceeds divided by the notoriously corrupt government apparatus of kenya, ras kambooni, and which ever local business men can exert influence on the process, yaacni bililiqo. What happened in kismayu was shameful with the federal delegation being turned away by the kenyan forces, it has futher clarified the current situation in jubbaland for those that do not have a dog in the fight.

Excellent opinion by brother AT./B] I do not know if it is right or wrong but I am glad to see somalis rising over the fray, in nairobi, that commander of ras kambonmi brigades is being turned into some sort of napoleon, we know he is not, I really think they are going to install him as a puppet governor of his in somalia.

Personally I would rather he takes his time in making his decision so that he will own the outcome as much as possible. P.s this is Somali politics there is no grace period...period.

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I know jeshi ya kenya wanatumiza maskio, kila siku ntv at the frontline utadhani hizi ma villages wa jubboyinka nima cities tabda town sijui nini, nimeboeka sana na ma propoganda zao Na huyu mkisii anatu danganya ili jina yake ii onekane kwa magezeti lakini cheki mafalaa vile wata irukia hii mambo juu ya ujinga na ukabila...

raula;870684 wrote: lol..that kisii was scared straight...venturing into lower Somalia..tis propaganda to shift news from what's happening within Kenya's Tana river massacres wale weligii inuu shifta la kulmin leave alone inamada "xerta" oo xeyraansan hehehehe

I think they are just a lobby group and are more concerned with a systematic process rather than specific instances, and besides all they are saying is that if this issue was argued out in an international court of law maybe the concessions and agreements reached by puntland or indeed any other entity would be thrown out as faulty.

Monday, September 17, 2012 The comprehensive revision of all current oil and gas concessions in Somalia is underway according to the East African Energy Forum. The influential Somali group hinted today that the new central Somali government would revise all previous oil deals conducted in the post 1990 era. The group also mentioned plans are underway to implement a new draft of the Somali National Oil Law that would honor contracts held by companies before the collapse of the state in 1990. “Somalia intends to honor its previous contracts with regards to companies who were forced out due to instability pre-1990. It would be up to them if they wish to resume exploration activities in their respective concessions, though a revision of the terms and a timeline would likely be placed on their return.” says Abdillahi Mohamud, head of the Somali-based group. He continues on saying that any hydrocarbon exploration deals in the country will likely be reassessed to ensure that they are in the national interest of Somalia and in line with the new Somali National Oil Law. “It is not in Somalia’s interest for oil and gas exploration to continue in the country without a robust national oil law passed by parliament in the new central government. Our main concern is putting into place regulations that protect the environment, sovereignty and resource assets of the country.” Asked if this casts doubt on the legality of oil exploration currently being conducted in the Puntland region, He indicates those agreements should be reviewed and a decision made by parliament. “These companies have taken a massive risk by immersing themselves in an uncertain political climate, if these contracts are determined to be against the interest of Somalia and the local people of Puntland, they will need to be renegotiated. The days of Somalia being taken advantage of have come to an end.” he added The groups lawyers also suggest some of the current blocks being explored in the Puntland region may fall into the force majeure category of the pre 1990 era. “If these blocks are indeed located in concessions held through force majeure by previous companies, the rightful owners of these concessions will have precedence and we intend to honor our previous agreements. Somalia is the rightful owner of its energy resources and will begin to act as such.” says K.R. Abdirahman, Interim Director of the group’s legal department. “We will not allow Somalia to be plunged into an oil curse; we will protect, monitor and develop this resource at our own pace, after we have secured the country’s onshore and offshore borders. I can assure you this is not the Somalia of old; this process will be transparent, effective and heavily nationalistic ensuring that the local people are the true winners in this.” says Abdillahi Mohamud. The East African Energy Forum is an international lobby group that works to protect Somalia’s energy resources.

By Robyn Dixon Monday, September 17, 2012 L.A Times MOGADISHU, Somalia — The great part about being mayor of Mogadishu is that you get to reinvent a city so thoroughly taken apart by more than 20 years of chaos and war, it's almost a clean slate. The hard part: staying alive. Death threats come with the job. Outside Mohamed Ahmed Noor's office there's a huge sign, "Welcome to Mogadishu." At his entry sits a guard with a machine gun, looped several times with ropes of ammunition. To get inside, you must squeeze through a hubbub of waiting people so dense you wonder how he gets any work done. Some are waiting to ask him for jobs for themselves or their children or nephews. Some have no food to give their children. Many are caught up in land disputes, as people, encouraged by a year of relative peace, move back to their houses and property, only to find others have taken them over. One of those who has come to see the mayor is an old friend from the Somali diaspora who used to play on the same basketball team in Mogadishu, in the good old days, before things went south in 1991. Noor politely brings a meeting with a large group of men to a close. They stand and troop out. "They're the district commissioners," he says. He works with them every day, as do foreign aid agencies. But analysts say many of the district commissioners in Mogadishu are actually warlords with substantial militias, raising fears of a reprise of the terrifying years from the early 1990s until 2006, when warlords divided Mogadishu block by block with roadblocks manned by trigger-happy militiamen. The mayor, 57, sits behind a modest desk, wearing a black shirt and a trim gray goatee. On his wall are five pen-and-ink drawings of the city. They don't depict the destruction left by two decades of fighting, but an idealized Mogadishu, like something out of a child's storybook, the perspective slightly off. Noor brims with restless energy, and although his aide (a Somali American from Texas) warns the mayor hasn't much time available for the interview, once he starts, Noor sweeps on exuberantly for almost an hour, regardless of the clock. After nearly a year of relative peace, Noor brushes aside fears the city could plunge back into conflict. He's concentrating on small things that he hopes will make a big difference: lighting neighborhoods to improve security, fixing roads, cleaning streets and markets and creating the kind of environment that he hopes will encourage businesses to move in, and people to move around more freely. "I knew if we light [areas] it would reduce fear. I knew if we reduced garbage, it would attract people. I knew if we increased security, people would stay out later at night." He's introduced traffic police, and has plans for traffic lights and street names. In days gone by, Mogadishu "was dark, there was fear. It was filthy." And now: "There are high expectations. The markets are full. [The city] is full of opportunity." Noor ran an Internet cafe and two community organizations providing services to Somali people in London as an emigre. He took part in the upgrading of London's King's Cross, formerly a seedy district, and he sees that as a model to change Mogadishu. But it's not easy: In Mogadishu's case, funds are scarce. "We're starting from a Hiroshima city. Where can we start? Where are the resources?" Noor says. "We have to move slowly, like a tortoise." When he took the job, the Al Qaeda-linked Shabab militant group still ruled the city, and Noor knew it would be dangerous. There have been many death threats. When he moves around the city, he has a hefty security outfit. In August 2011, he survived an assassination attempt, possibly by the Shabab, when attackers blew up his car. He was not in it. He has a determinedly rose-colored view of the attack. "It encouraged me, because I was only the mayor. I wasn't the president or the prime minister or a general organizing the military offensive. I was just a mayor who decided to provide services. I said, 'What did I do to become a target? — it's because I'm doing a good job.' It heartened me."

Fiqikhayre;870520 wrote: It is revealed now the Kenyans did not feel safe in Mogadishu because of their support for rival clan in Azania which is not supported by Mogadishu residents. which is not supported by Mogadishu residents, what would the residents have done torn them to pieces?

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The minister said he was surprised when he saw the former President Sharif at Aljazeera Palace Hotel soon after the incident occurred and who appeared unshaken by what had happened. “Although Al-Shabaab has accepted responsibility of the incident, I don’t know whether it was by coincident that Sharif came to the scene soon event as we held our breath waiting in the room for a bomb to be detonated,” Prof Ongeri said. Is that the whole basis of his accusation?

What does it matter kenya is second in command according to amisom command hierarchy.

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Kenya is a part of amisom oba, they were rehatted ages ago.

Wait look at the 7 picture, things are indeed deep, deep and weighty, I have spotted what looks like another air conditioner behind a curtain! This is a very important meeting walee people will feel the consequences for 100 years, why do we need 3 A/Cs in the room? indeed there are fires within fires and wheels turning with in wheels in this meeting...

Also there are two aircondition appliances in the room, walaahi the agenda must have been very heavy for this much cold air to be required in this room, our leaders must be kept cool as they ponder the weighty issues on the table, puntland must not be the scene of the first spontaneous combustion of an individual in important meeting.

Then who or what is the answer?

Hope inshallah that this will be true, it was so tiring watching a speaker of parliament with no idea what his remit was, interfering in everything including ambassadorial appointments.

Afhayeenka Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya Maxamed Cismaan Jawaari oo shalay ka qeybgalay kulan ka dhacay magaalada Muqdisho ayaa shaaca ka qaaday in laga bilaabo maanta oo axad ah Madaxweynaha cusub ee dalka uu ka howlgeli doono xafiiskiisa Villa Soomaaliya, wuxuuna intaasi ku daray inuu rajeynayo inay dhexmarto Baarlamaanka, Madaxweynaha cusub iyo xukuumadda la soo dhisi doono wada-shaqeyn buuxda, isla markaasna waxa uu sheegay inaysan dhici doonin Baarlamaan iyo Madaxweyne is’heysta oo khilaaf uu ka dhex jiro. “Haddii Alle idmo ma dhici doonto Guddoomiye Baarlamaan iyo Madaxweyne isheysta, anaga Baarlamaan haddaan nahay shaqadeena waa sharci dejin, shaqadeena ayaan aqoonsan doonaa, waxaana Madaxweynaha ka fileynaa siduu noo balanqaaday inuu noo dhiso xukuumad garbo u noqota baarlamaanka” ayuu yiri Guddoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Soomaaliya. Wuxuu intaasi raaciyey Guddoomiyuhu in isagu iyo xildhibaanada baarlamaanka aysan faragashan doonin arrimaha fulinta ee xukuumadda, isla markaasna Madaxweynaha ay ku ixtiraami doonaan howshiisa Madaxweynanimo. Guddoomiyaha Baarlamanka ayaa sheegay in waxyaabaha Baarlamaanka laga sugayo ay tahay soo saarista sharciyo dalka iyo dadka waxtar u leh isagoo ballanqaaday in shuruuc wax ku ool ah ay dalka u sameyn doonaan. “Baarlamaanka waxa uu ku ekaan doona howshiisa sharci dejinta, wixii fulin ah waxaa u deyn doonaa xukuumadda” ayuu yiri Prof. Jawaari. wuxuuna ugu baaqay Guddoomiye Jawaari xildhibaanada qurbajoogta ee ku jira baarlamaanka inay u soo diyaar-garoobaan shaqo dheer oo qaranka loogu adeegayo, ayna iska iloobaan inay dibadaha had iyo jeer u dhoofaan. Jawaari wuxuu sheegay in isaga iyo xubnaha kale ee gudoonka Baarlamaanka ay diyaar u yihiin sidii shaqada Baarlamaanka ugu socon laheyd sidii loogu talogalay, isla markaasna ay meesha ka saari doonaan safaro dibadda ah oo micno darrro ah.

This is obviously a very important meeting, they have sat around a table, where there is only mineral water available, there is a special message there for those that can discern these things, even the glasses have been removed.....

I have always felt with a functioning government and an acceptable political solution....the sheer force of economic activity in the south would do 80% of what is needed to end some elites delusions, but by the same token, a brotherly interest in Somali elections as well as a brotherly hope for suffering somalis prosperity does not translate in to an aching wish to be back in bed with Mogadishu, especially after 20 years of puerile propoganda....so as usual treat all northerners as brothers in bussiness and employment, and that already will be the loudest possible death kneel to "somaliland".

What is the point of this topic, after this weeks momentous events is this all carafat can see? Deal with it hadba