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Abtigiis;848398 wrote: Obviously you are over-generalizing and sensationalizing a mild matter! But then let us leave this you are doing this or doing that thing! I welcome you to the forum and you sound very intelligent. Given that you don't touch our meal (mine and Ngonge's) - which is fetid clan discussions, we look forward for your other healthy topics so that we can engage you and hopefully learn from one another. Soo dhawoow walaal! Now that wasn't very hard was it abti. A simple welcome to Sol would've sufficed Lool.

Abtigiis;848391 wrote: welcome brother Nudawn, and your stand on clanish matters is commendable. But unless you pick a topic which we can debate you on, this Good guy Vs Bad guys skit is unlikely to generate funny or/and fruitful discussions! But implying all other members of SOL tolerate clannish garbage and only you - the bright and upcoming visionary young thinker, mind this shows that you suffer from a profound "messianic complex" when you are still ripe. it is symptomatic of all that is wrong with our youth. They open their shirt-front and preach ideas and slogans that they hardly grasp and think an older mind always thinks of old things. Clearly there is no such correlation. Ahmed Godane is much younger than Ismail Bubba but I am sure Bubba is more progressive than the young terrorist. Therefore there is no evidence to show that just because you are younger and consequently more idealistic, you are a better somali or you have a better idea to solve what is wrong with our community! Obviously you're over analyzing and putting words in my mouth.

My pledge threatens the culture of clannism Ngonge and his ilk have worked soo hard to maintain. Theyve Filled a perfectly good forum with garbage, this forum represents the cesspool that is our community, Filled with degenerates And genocidal clanists, seperatist sympathisers, terrorists and an Abtigiis lol.

Lool Odey bro don't worry about these Sol vets, they're just doing what people do best here; over analyse. Ngonge We have two entirely different philosophies indicative of our age group. You being the old clanist eager to post useless topics like the "SSC Predicament", on it's 22nd page if I might add (congrats on the feet). If my pledge preludes the fact I won't be adding to your impressive Rep score then so be it.

This guy really wrote a damn novel.

Raamsade;848269 wrote: But Tutsi is not Cushitic language so the Tutsis can not be related to Cushitic speaking Oromo. Moreover, Tutsi show little to no genetic affinity to Oromo or Cushitic speaking groups. So, to sum it up: Tutsis are Bantu by language Tutsis are Bantu by genetics Tutsis are Bantu by culture and customs Q.E.D. Tutsis are part of Bantu speaking Africans like Hutu Lastly, most Tutsis and Bantus are physically indistinguishable so drop this silly game of citing the odd Tutsi here or there that looks a bit exotic. Bro as much as I hate when Somalis claim anyone with soft hair and a thin nose to be descended from us ie (p diddy, mya, etc) you can't sit here and tell me all Tutsi are Bantu.

I have many oromo friends and it's actually widely believed within their community that Tutsi are an oromo tribe. The oromo are a major group in east Africa like the Somalis they shared a nomadic way of life, helping them spread all over the region. The Borena are oromos living in Kenya I wouldn't be surprised if they reached as far as Rwanda and Burundi.

The Ummah have become an inconsiderate unreasonable group as of late. We seem to be getting worse, and as long as Wahhabi money continues to flow, forget about the notion of open mindedness. We need to remember somAlia won't be a no go zone forever, with more peace and stability the likely hood of our country being a safe haven for other refugee and immigrant groups are high. With that comes their own set of beliefs. It's important we have laws and guarantees set up to accommodate these people, just as the thousands of us living in the west.

Tallaabo;847791 wrote: I hate to bust your bubble but, no it is not tangible. Because: 1.The Somalis are far from united. 2.Who does business in Jigjiga and Garisa, and who goes in and out of those regions is decided by the Tigrey and Kikuyu and not by the Somalis. 3. Our homeland is one of the poorest in the world and we are still dependent on others for our survival so setting up financial centres in other countries is a pipe dream. 4. The economies of Ethiopia and Kenya are growing fast so do not underestimate our neighbours. They had proven to be more capable than the ignorant tribal-minded nomad. We know what Somalis are capable of economically. From Minnesota, Columbus, Kampala Nairobi, Dubai we've literally taken over the informal markets. Obviously we're not in a position today to talk business on that scale. You don't see this in the future though?

MoonLight1;847789 wrote: ^ Nudawn bro lets concentrate first on the Republic, lets not run before we learn how to walk. Those regions you called "deprived" are the ones harboring millions of refugees and giving them shelters and basic life needs. Lets hold together whats left of Somalia before its too late. Brother I don't want to get ahead of myself here, nothing I said is possible if the republic remains in shambles. Ultimately this concept Should be seen as a future alternative to our failed military campaigns

After years of war, famine And overall civil strife Somalia is not in a position to even think of militarily capturing lost territories in Ethiopia And Kenya. After The failed campaign in the 70's and the eventual collapse of our nation, we've for the most part forgot about our brothers and sisters in these deprived regions. Militarily capturing territory is out of the question, but an economic take over is very possible. We can make Garissa in the NFD the second largest city in Kenya, with investments from a peaceful Somalia we can transform Garissa into the financial and commercial hub of Kenya. Jigjiga can surpass Adama, Mekele and other regional cities to become a major city in Ethiopia. Somali companies Will be able to form partnerships with local Somali businessmen in these regions, and in turn open up potential market pop. of up to 120 million people. Geographically jigjiga would be within Hargeisa sphere of influence Garissa would fall Under the port city of kismayos sphere. Is this a tangible concept?

Odey;847645 wrote: Not only is it conducive it is actually at optimum levels!. My suggestion to you brother is to invest wisely but invest quickly. New ideas, industries are popping up and whoever gets in there first will make the big bucks. Bringing a service or profession late won't do you any good. Happy to lend my experience. See your inbox for my email and contact me inshallah. Knowing Somalis and our entrepreneurial spirit it's only a matter of time before the business void is plugged with eager investment money. Thanks for the contact info brother, we will definitely be in contact.

Odey;847645 wrote: Not only is it conducive it is actually at optimum levels!. My suggestion to you brother is to invest wisely but invest quickly. New ideas, industries are popping up and whoever gets in there first will make the big bucks. Bringing a service or profession late won't do you any good. Happy to lend my experience. See your inbox for my email and contact me inshallah. Knowing Somalis and our entrepreneurial spirit it's only a matter of time before the business void is plugged with eager investment money. Thanks for the contact info brother, we will definitely be in contact.

Tallaabo;847612 wrote: I too joined this forum after spending few months reading the cut and paste news articles which are regularly posted by SOL’s amateur reporters. I did not join soon because I felt like I did not fit in any of the ranks of the dhaqan celis boys, Al Shabaab loyalists, cyber states guul wadayaal, clan warlord fans, neo-afwaynists, marfash politicians, politicised housewives, fake nationalists, cathinone & cathine addicts, Ethiopian insurgents, iyo gaalada mad madaw. But I guess I will eventually find my ground. Bro we have to change the culture around here man. That's the reason why I made such a dramatic opening post, I'm sure there are others creeping who think like us.

Odey;847606 wrote: Hear hear!!, Nudawn, my brother these are my thoughts exactly which is why late last year I decided to head back home. I am in Mogadishu, living, breathing on our beloved piece of Planet Earth. The opportunities here are so immense it beggars belief. It saddens me when I see young men & women who seem highly talented and could be good business partners which ultimately will create jobs that will in turn help alleviate the suffering back home arguing on some petty stuff. I am keen to meet fellow like minded people and glad to make your acquaintance brother!. Do keep in touch and don't let any of these put downs get to you. Salaams. Brother im genuinely happy for you and your decision to go back to our impoverished country. This is exactly why I joined this forum, to meet risk takers like you bro. I have sooo many questions pertaining to the business climate in the Mog. Is the environment conducive to business?

Odey;847452 wrote: Nudawn. Brother, let me take this opportunity to welcome you to the forum. You come across as someone with a good head on his shoulders, but I assure you, if you stay long enough in a psychiatric wing with crazy people, you will end up crazy. You have joined a forum renowned for tribalism, even though it is disguised under such beautiful abbreviations like PL,SL,AS,PIS,GL,ASWJ and many others.I hope you don't add another abbreviated tribe to the list. Once again, welcome brother and for the record I totally agree on the resources issue. Please usher in a New dawn!, Bro as long as there are like minded individuals like you and the handful of others, I'm sure we'll find constructive subjects to discuss, business plans to write. We have a virgin country waiting for us to invest in. We should be taking advantage of this online community and starting business groups. Let's brainstorm ideas

MoonLight1;847222 wrote: Really???? it was only few days ago when you were arguing against somali population increase, here is what you said. http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/65529-Somali-birth-rate-4th-in-the-world./page2?highlight=ethiopia+kenya and now suddenly you've made a 360 degree turn. A 360 degree turn will land you in your original direction. I'm pretty sure you meant 180 degree turn, which takes me to my next point Somalia needs educated people with basic geometry skills.

Water and the lack of it is what's causing the most strife in our region. We have water we just haven't tapped into its full potential. We need to invest in underground water cisterns, water Treatment plants, dams, An effective national agricultural irrigation system.

Wadani;847201 wrote: I absolutely agree. Af-May May should be taught in schools across the country and it should be given constitutional recognition and replace Arabic as our second official language. I would support this motion anyday fam

OdaySomali;847197 wrote: 1. It would be realistic, cheaper and effective to dam the tens if not hundreds (I am not exxagerating) of seasonal rivers in the North that literally run into the sea. You see, you have to understand the geography of the north. Because the mountain range in the north runns parrallel to the Gulf of Aden coasline, the vast majority of the water that runs down the mountains empties into the sea. If you look on google maps you will see that all along the northern coast there are rivers that run into the sea - this water is not harvested or used. There are also large and productive acquifiers up north that are more than capable of meeting the local demand - indeed water produced from our northern acquifiers are exported, to among other places the UAE (however) I don't think this scarce resource should be allowed to be exported). 2. The drought occurred throughout the HORN but became a famine only in the south of our country. The reason why the drought became a famine was because of devision, conflict and instability, leading to a lack of access to imports & investment in productive capabilities; in essence it was a man-made famine. There was no lack of water - the two permanent rivers were still flowing. The question is then, what or even who is perpetuating the division and war in the south and how can it be resolved. That's what I'm talking about oday. We need to discuss subjects like this, instead of wasting our time on bulls**t.

Mukulaalow we need to invest in harvesting the seasonal rain water that goes to waste, literally dries up in thin air. The northern regions see a healthy amount of water.

Xaaji Xunjuf;847184 wrote: Not really there are enough resources fishery oil gas rivers bananas but even with all those resources it doesn't really matter Somalia needs start proper industry in the country invest in human resources that's the best way forward. Somalis always blame the west for their own shortcomings intay wadankoodi so burburiyeen bay yidhahaan gaalada ka danbeysey maya adiga istupidh ah dalkaagi so burburiyey gaaladuna way ka faiideysanayan uun nothing else. Brother I should've used another word instead of lack of resources. What I meant to say was a lack in investments. Somalia is rich in resources, if only we can tap into that and finally spread the wealth generated. Be honest brother, would you honestly support seperation if you were getting water and electricty at a subsidized price, bananas and other staple crops grown in the soil rich south would be available to you and your Kin at dirt cheap prices. Water would be piped from the Jubba and shabelle directly to your facet. No more walking a couple miles to the local well for dirty water.

Wadani;847182 wrote: Nudawn walaal, we are even more amazing than the nothern Arabs, because many of their dialects are not mutually intelligable, while all af-maxaa tiri speakers from Djibouti to ras kaamboni can understand eachother no problem, and it would probably take only a few months for one of them to pick up af-may. The Arab world you see today is a heterogeneous mix of ethnicities and cultures. Arabs from the gulf don't understand a lick of what an Arab from morocco says lol. I'm offended at how the May-May language is completely ignored in our country though. The speakers of May are Somali and they deserve more respect then to be completely ignored

Wadani;847175 wrote: Thanks walaal, and welcome to SOL. We definitely need new members like u. Thanks fam