@Raamsade. I prefer girls in the fields of science and math. I've found it hard to have a serious relationship with girls who have nothing in common with me in regards to hobbies and interests. If you prefer a breathing blow up doll then all the power to you :cool:

@Alpha. Women pass on more DNA to their children than men, as all Mitochondrial DNA comes from them. He is more Somali than someone who has only a Somali father.

Ameer;851486 wrote: We will see if oil is what will bring Calm to Somalia if it is found. I hope calm comes about from deeper discussion. Peace that can only be attributed to the waxy residue of plants and animals long gone is not optimal.

I agree, but why should our fate be up for discussion? Could you imagine the leaders of your host nations discussing what limitations they should impose on your career choices? From the reaction on the burqa ban in France, I'd say that many of you don't like the idea of others meddling in your lives.

It would be ignorant to think North Africa and the Middle East are the "world", there are ancient civilizations stretching from the Indus valley to China, only Afro-centrists, Euro-centrists and the three Abrahamic faiths have the audacity to claim they can rule the world.

It's that your way of giving good advice, or is it a threat?

5;851382 wrote: You seem to forget that women weren't allowed to do pretty much anything for the longest time. Now that they're allowed, they're simply catching up Blackflash, your argument is as inane as to argue that white people are inherently more intelligent than black people because they've invented most of the inventions ("what's keeping black people from winning Nobel prizes?") Most of the time it's opportunity, silly. Even today women graduating top of their class from the most prestigious universities in the world are losing out on the top jobs to male drop-outs because of the old boy network. I may be pretty much watering down my whole post but I can't resist : Lol, I didn't argue anything. It was an honest question.

A high IQ is most useful in the hard sciences and mathematics, yet Men make up the vast majority of my Computer Science classes, What's keeping women out of these streams? My B.O can't account for all of it.

Soon they'll start copying vaccination programs, how dare they come to the same conclusions on the betterment of their people!

Wadani;851255 wrote: It is impossible to agree on what constitues morality, given that its primarily defined as those norms, values,and standards a given culture upholds and deems to be inviolable. Since cultures vary widely across the world, it follows that morality as constructed by human societies is relative, even those often deemed to be universals, such as the morals pertaining to murder, rape and theft. For example, within a nomadic Somali context, killing a relative of a person who was responsible for the murder of one of your clansmen is perfectly moral and considered a legitimate form of retaliation. Outside of this cultural milieu it would be considered misplaced agression and a violation of basic justice. For an athiest who is supposedly well-versed on matters of religion, whose detailed knowledge on Islam ironically served as an impetus for his eventual and unfortunate apostasy, i am surprised that you would be unaware of the basic Islamic belief that those who do need hear of the message of Islam while on earth are not held accountable for their ignorance on the day of judgement. Whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent a messenger.(17:15). You'll notice I said according to some scholars. There are some who interpret this as meaning that these groups have received messengers of their own. Heck, there are some nuts who actually think that Cherokees are Muslim or a lost Jewish tribe.

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The-freeman;851232 wrote: I'm always sceptical when I hear people say: "I can make an impact; we can make an impact etc". It sounds like a marketing seminar gimmick. I remain sceptical but good luck. There's nothing wrong with skepticism as you and I know:D

This thread is a great example of what's wrong with Somalia, everyone is too busy contemplating the affairs of others before dealing with their own issues. Let's not put the cart before the horse, let's build our country up before we decide whether I should be decapitated or not:)

@The-freeman. It's more about what I can offer the country than what it can offer me. Canada has been great to me, but I feel as if I could make more of an impact on the lives of others in Somalia than I could here in Canada. Heck, I even think the prosperity of Somalia would benefit Canada in the future as it would ease the strain on the refugee system.

The-freeman;851215 wrote: @ sharma-arke451: you must feel big and moral to pass death upon a life that you didn't create, nourish or educate. No he doesn't, he'll pass the buck to god and say that he's just following orders.

Carafaat;851203 wrote: I can support that. Can't imagine somebody wanting to hurt someone just for not being a muslim. that would be cruel. am above all against our faith. You don't need to imagine it, just read sharma-arke451's posts.

You're operating under the assumption that Kenya actually cares about Al-shabaab at this point. They won't see the impact until Al-Shabaab starts targeting tourists. Then the world renowned short term planning of Kenya will kick in to gear.

You're just repeating yourself at this point.

It's rather simple actually, don't kill me and we won't have any problems. Although I'd prefer secularism, I can live (literally) with government restrictions placed on the whole group (ban on alchohol etc.), but don't single me out for persecution or limit what I jobs I can take. I can't speak for other secularists, as there isn't much coordination between us.

sharma-arke451;851182 wrote: although you seem complaining about lack of choice here, just seven posts up, you recognized that your decisions are your own choice, and that you have independent faculty to choose what you want. therefore, your stand is contradicting. The argument that man has no choice but an object of a predestined course of events, ends up in a cycle. man has the faculty of reason and he/she can differentiate what is right from what is wrong. Oh, but man is a telling witness against himself بَلِ ٱلۡإِنسَـٰنُ عَلَىٰ نَفۡسِهِۦ بَصِيرَةٌ۬ I know that my personal choices led me to where I am today, I was utilizing sarcasm and irony in that post.

Of course the government should cater to the majority when creating institutions, but that's a big leap to limiting our careers. I don't support secularism so that I can change your lifestyle, I support it so others can't force unfair restrictions on me and others.

Who has the right to decide our place in Somalia? You're under the assumption that secularists or non-muslims don't already hold high positions in our communities, publicly expressing those views isn't exactly good for your health in Islamic communities.

As others have said, his good health is in our best interest. I care not for him, but for progress in Somalia, the last thing we need is a bordering nation of 80 million + to undergo a power vacuum. Especially at such a critical stage in Somali politics.

N.O.R.F;851135 wrote: What is morality? That's a good question, I think we all need to agree on what morality is first. The basic morals surrounding murder, rape and theft came about long before any organized religion. @Alpha, that's a good thought experiment, apparently these people must've been visited by their own messengers according to some scholars, yet there is no evidence of any monotheistic religion in the Americas. Why would god be so cruel as to punish them for what they don't know?

It's fairly blatant, there are several verses in the Quran that refer to disbelievers as being the architects of their own damnation, while many other point to gods omnipotent power as being the only thing guiding the "righteous". Are our paths forged through our own free will or god's? Seems like the Quran and it's followers can't make up their minds.