You should change the title so as not to confuse people. Also, why now? It's not even the anniversary of the incident.

Did anyone here get tested? According to 23andMe my paternal haplogroup is E1b1b1a1b while my Maternal haplogroup belongs to the L3a2a2 branch.

SomaliNationalist;924708 wrote: Memories from Somalia-Part one by Adriano Gallo Tuesday, July 12, 2011 My name is Adriano Gallo and I was born in Mogadishu the capital of Italian Somaliland in 1950, my family had immigrated to Italian Somaliland in 1910 from the Tuscany province in Italy, we had established 4 fruit plantations in the lower Jubba region, the Italian government was promoting masse immigration by italian farmers to the new Somali colony, it was described in advertisements as a tropical paradise, where lush farm areas and compatible climate awaited all Italians. By 1940 more than 50000 Italians were living in Italian Somaliland. My family lived in a beautiful house in Mogadishu’s Kasa Popolare neighbourhood, my father was often not home he worked for the most in our farms in the Lower Jubba regions; I loved to work with my father in our farms, so many adventures .You could meet snakes and lions, elephants and crocodiles, and an amazing landscape. It was nice to be away from the usual busy Mogadishu. Majority of the farm workers was Somalis and I played as child with their children, we were all so ethnical different but was enjoying what was in our eyes our common motherland. In 1960 Somalia got its independence, there was a goodbye party for the Italian governor in Villa Somalia 4 days before Somalia got its independence, my family was invited and there was hundreds of guests, I had brought a blue Somali national flag or Mandeeq as Somalis called it. Then as they innocent child I was, I ran around screaming ” freedom for Somalis” on Italian while celebrating the flag that shocked majority of the guests. 30000 out of 40000 Italians left Somalia in 1960; they didn’t feel comfortable living in an independent Somalia. http://www.hiiraan.com/op4/2011/july/19424/memories_from_somalia_part_one.aspx The author's last name is rather informative

Narniah;923380 wrote: This is a sign from Allah. It doesnt really surprise me as previous nations have had a similar fate. May Allah have mercy up on us ameen. What nations? I haven't heard of any nation being swallowed up by a sinkhole.

Haatu;923311 wrote: Acuudu billah. I wonder what he did to incur Allah's wrath and cadaab prematurely. He lived on top of one of the world's largest aquifers and in a region where sinkholes are common place. So chances are it was just bad luck.

Handing out social assistance in the form of cash is one of the most moronic government policies I've ever seen. Social assistance in general is a bad idea in heterogeneous societies.

Nin-Yaaban;921702 wrote: Somali man in Idaho charged with Rape. Aman Farah Gas, 32. Oh man, Aman raped a woman.

How old are you guys? This thread seems pretty juvenile.

metta;920586 wrote: Haye, people of Canada. If you live in gobolka Ontario, here is a video on accessing welfare or help finding a job . Pass it along to your newly arrived relatives. You used the boolean operator OR rather than AND. Why? If you're attempting to access welfare, doesn't that mean you require assistance in finding a job?

I think those of strong faith should abstain from the use of the word 'superstition', it honestly makes you look retarded.

oba hiloowlow;918832 wrote: Lol at 'Cars are parked at owner's risk'.

Alpha Blondy;917718 wrote: ^ do you have a somali name? My siblings and I all have Arabic names, but our last name is Somali. Yet, both of my parents have Somali names, which seems to be the case in most families.

What I hate most about this trend is not being able to identify a Somali by their name, it's easy to distinguish Iranians,Turks, Arabs and Malaysians from each other, but with Somalis it's getting harder every generation. It doesn't matter if the adopted names are Western or Arabic, the effect is similar.

OdaySomali;789203 wrote: What is nowadays presented as the modern "valentines" day was infact a Christian day to remember and honour a "Saint Valentine" or Valentinus, a number of 14 cristian 'martyrs' of ancient Rome. This honouring of these Cristian martyrs has been done on the 14 of Feb since time immemorial; this used to include a large feast . Later there was an addition, as is not surprising in the irrational christian norms , of an element of 'celebrating' 'love'. Interesting not ? As opposed to rational religious traditions?

I think culture plays the bigger role when it comes to Somalis. Our mostly nomadic traditions have made us resilient when we're faced with insurmountable odds, but it has also made us reactive and passive rather than proactive. Long term planning seems to be an issue in my family as well as others from what I've seen, I'm guilty of it as well.

Ridwaan;914967 wrote: ^ Don't generalize an entire group of people based on the actions of a few rotten apples. Metta generalized criminals, not the average black or middle eastern citizen. You'd have to be blind to not realize the demographic trends in violent crimes, especially gun crimes in Toronto.

44 homicides in Chicago as of today. That's in contrast to the 4 homicides we've had in Toronto so far. Then again, 3 of the 4 homicide cases so far in Toronto involve black individuals, so there appears to be a common thread.

Che -Guevara;914741 wrote: I have officially accepted Faroole is nuts. Good on you. I've officially accepted that as long as Somalis live in Somalia, nothing will change. I revoke my optimism membership and am now a full-fledged pessimist.

Alpha Blondy;914061 wrote: things are not prefect in Somalia but let's not be haste in making swift condemnations. Let's not be haste? Are you waiting for an impartial and thorough investigation?

Wadani;912907 wrote: Actually there was a psychological study done on monkeys to see how important touch was for an infant (infant monkey in this case). One was placed in a cage with a metal bar with a feeding bottle attached to it. The other was placed in a cage with a feeding bottle attached to a fury object much like an adult monkey. The latter monkey would feed and then cuddle up with the fake mother, while the other would just feed. The developmental differences in the two monkeys proved to be huge, with the former developing severe psychological problems followed physical problems that eventually led to his death. The other monkey was relatively well adjusted and healthy. We cannot extrapolate from these results with %100 certainty that the same would occur with human infants, but it does give us a clue nonetheless. So Dhagax-tuur isn't so odd after all lol. The Harry Harlow studies implied that there was a possible correlation between autistic behaviour and lack of parental bonding. I remember reading that the monkeys had erratic feeding patterns, odd breeding behaviour and had trouble socializing with other monkeys. All of that would definitely hasten their death in the wild, but I don't remember anything about death as a result of the isolation itself.

Dhagax-Tuur;912888 wrote: Let me give you an example. If a child is born and its eyes are not exposed to light, they will be blind. Therefore, no touch = no life. Simple. Check it out. Terrible logic. Dhagax-Tuur;912888 wrote: "Odd" - What is so odd? You.

I think you're taking it too literally. If I'm not mistaken, that quote is referring to "failure to thrive/ faltering growth" in infants. It isn't simply a matter of touch as it involves neglect or naivety on the part of the caregiver.

How about African leaders focus on effectively governing at least one country first. Even then, considering the growing criticism of EU why would creating a bloated bureaucracy be considered a net positive in Africa. Then there's the fact that this is coming from Robert Mugabe.

xabad;911980 wrote: Good to hear, because Power is my specialty. but I am no where near 95th percentile. Nice! My uncle's friend (he's Somali) works at a nuclear power facility right outside Toronto.

xabad;911922 wrote: what about electrical and electronics engineering ? The electric engineering sector is the worst of them all in Canada (unless you're a power engineer). The collapse of Nortel during dot-com bubble has flooded the country with thousands of jobless Masters and Ph.D holders in Electrical/Computer Engineering, the effects of which can still be felt today. As always, if you were/are a strong student (95th percentile or so) you'd have better oppurtunities in the U.S.