Mr.Tallaabo, a flag is a mere symbol. It has no agency to define. Rather it is defined by those it represents. From a religious perspective, you can argue carrying islamic declaration whilst representing something to the contrary is devilish in nature. Anyways as the old mantra goes "Fellowship no! Fraternity no! Fire to the fluid flags!"

<cite> @Holac said:</cite> Waiting for American corn and Western sponsorship is not a future. Due to the security situation in Kenya, Somali refugees should give any repatriation offer a careful consideration. Lol @ careful consideration. And what about the security situation in Somalia, where the black flag rises in many of the areas where these refugees come from? What future layeth there?

Hi folks, Came across these two a few years back, previously known as Sweet Rush. I can't claim myself as a fan but this song is pretty sick. Thought I'd share

<cite> @Safferz said:</cite> Mormons banned polygamy, actually. Only a small minority of Mormon fundamentalists continue to practice it, in opposition to the mainstream church. Carry on... Hi Saffy (:

did you think Mormans will adopt monogamy?? Never. But forreal not anytime soon, maybe in the future. Awoowa a reer miyi. Your father an italian hipster. now its the generation of long-bearded akhis. Who knows whats next? But being the previous generation was one of secularism, so to answer your question, probably not. Somalis are a forever culturally evolving people. An evolution accordance to fad. Secularism is yesterday. And yesterday is not trendy. Unless we want to go retro.

and that is how mogadishu looks today. things are getting back to normal. Certainly this Ramadan was bad. But Ramadan for the past few years has consistently been an insecure and iffy time for Mogadishu. January was no picnic either. Jazeera hotel was attacked then. But life goes on. And so 'Masala' tea will continue to be sipped

*Sigh* this is like a debate club with each debate being the same topic with the same players. this gets boring guys you know? Allyourbase and Xabad you guys need a new hobby. its difficult being a minority and alone in your beliefs, understood, but consistently seeking out unproductive debates that you know the outcome of is not going to make you feel less alone. its a futile effort. perhaps you should try joining a book club or a band or something Doctoree-- you lack self-control--saying you are out and coming back to get the last word. IF you are out be out. and be less pretentious you are not a doctor in real life are you? CidanSultan- you are a hypocrite. You cannot be taken seriously. Khayr- these days your posts have become more lucid. Have you sobered up?

^^ I respectfully disagree Holac from previous thread: <cite> @SomaliPhilosopher said:</cite> Though I wished she stayed, I would agree in saying she doesn't "understand the Somali way." Yes the Central Bank of Somalia Act does give the bank autonomy and it should do so in practice. But of course these 'articles' and 'clauses' for all practical purposes don't really matter. We are a country that are just transitioning from over twenty years of lawlessness, at least of formal law. What did Yussur expect? For these dusty acts and bills to be taken off the shelf and the government to act in full accordance? For the President to attend to all her inquiries with only four weeks on the job, with most of her time spent abroad? These things take time. Yussur should have understood that and work accordingly instead of provoking a full out scandal because of the potential 'opening' of doors of corruption. Yussur will be received as a hero. A strong figure who stood her ground and held strong to her 'personal values'. Though with all idealism aside, this is not a testament of strength, but rather one of weakness. Somalia does not need 'personal values'. It needs patience. It needs flexibility. It needs calm . It needs understanding. These are not values of an individual but rather one of a nation. <cite> @SomaliPhilosopher said:</cite> Can we have an honest discussion regarding the recovery of frozen assets delegated to Schulman & Rogers? Many of you in your quraba-joog lands may have bought the propagandized image of a 'peaceful' and 'functional' Somalia. Some of you may have succumbed to the white man's smile and believe all of this "pledged" money, $2.4 billion to be exact, will actually reach Somalia? Some of you may be enslaved my ideals and principles, and that is commendable, but that does not pay the bills. The fact of the matter Government lacks funds. With what is expected and with what is had, it is almost laughable, if it wasn't sad. With this, the government is unsustainable, incapable, weak, and much more. I know people in xamar who have worked for the government for years without getting a salary, ten years for one guy in particular. <br /> <br /> There are untouched assets sitting abroad in the west. Funds that belong to Somalia. Funds that are not considered 'humanitarian aid'. And funds that are made reachable with a third party law firm. Yes there is a hefty finder's fee. This is not unique to Somalia. This is the business. what is x% of 0? These funds were previously inaccessible. Yes some of these funds may go unaccounted for. To think corruption doesn't exist in Somalia or that corruption will magically disappear in the next few years is naive. The government must continue to operate despite such setbacks. Are we to put a hiatus on the government until corruption subsides? Does the sick wait to ingest medicine until he has healed?

As you guys may remember Shulman Rogers is the law firm that was hired to recover Somalia's frozen assets abroad, mostly brought to light by the whole central bank governor yussur abrar scandal This guy Shulman totally shits on the UN Monitoring Group. Interesting video. Apparently ~$33 million has been recovered in assets. Not bad eh

salaam from dhulka kikuyu

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I'm sorry to here about your ayeeyo Safferz. allahu naxariisto

<cite> @Nin-Yaaban said:</cite> Well, that never seems to stop Somalis from going to Somalia anyway. Almost 30+ and with travel advisory warnings, Somalis have been flocking to the motherland on the plane loads. U can't let lil government warning stop you from enjoying what you do. I've been to Somalia several times in past few years. Somalis of any citizenship r being stopped, arrested, and detained for an extended period of time with out charge upon entering and exiting Ethiopia says recent us travel warning. Much different than Somalia

<cite> @Nin-Yaaban said:</cite> Well, that never seems to stop Somalis from going to Somalia anyway. Almost 30+ and with travel advisory warnings, Somalis have been flocking to the motherland on the plane loads. U can't let lil government warning stop you from enjoying what you do. I've been to Somalia several times in pay few years. Somalis of any citizenship r being stopped, arrested, and detained for an extended period of time with out charge upon entering and exiting Ethiopia says recent us travel warning. Much different than Somalia

Was considering spending a week in addis but don't think so in light of u.s. recent travel warning specific to Somalis

Haven't watched the videos but I can say it was not a wise decision for these elders to be sent to Hargeisa. Not wise at all for the union plight. It is easy to scream union from Mogadishu or from your qurbajoog home. But it is not so easy when you are in Hargeisa. You realize the success of the Somaliland cause. You realize gunshots and grenades are not common in all of Somali lands. You realize these people had peace for the past twenty years while you lived amidst war. You realize a functioning government exists in the northern lands. You realize these people live in a different reality. You realize they sing a different song. You realize they wave a different flag. You see local governance. You see grassroot development. You realize your government is weak and has nothing to offer these people. Out of Somalinimo you are taken a step back and have yourself questioning your unionist views. Soon you find yourself at a May 18 party. This is the fate of a Somali nationalist. Hassan Sheikh should have known this. For he is not a nationalist and could not see such forthcomings. Instead he should have delayed such visits and encamp the elders within Konfuria and have them scream union from their makeshift homes barricaded by idealism and 1985 picture of Hargeisa. He was to shield the elders and the Konfurian populace from the light that beems from the Woqooyi. Sunglasses for everyone, and not the ones from China! A mistake Hassan has made.

^^^Loool 40mil shilling is not probably 4mil dollars. Its not even $2000. A wild inference

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> When you have that many MP's (and probably more) against Culusow, and who will use anything they can to legally oust him, then there's probably going to be some settlement where Culusow will agree to step down in exchange for immunity or something of the sort. lool bro emotions have clouded your mind. immunity? for what?? lol being ineffective is not illegal

Yes, it was 115 MPs somaha? They met at Sahafi hotel. Illegal. Not parliamentary procedure. The question is what is the procedure to unseat the President. its not a vote of confidence like the pm right? i believe it is just impeachment. with that how many votes do you need? maybe more. someone needs to bring out the constitution

Somali lady refused entry on a public bus today. Also today all the passengers got off a bus when a Somali male got on. Feeling embarrassed he quietly left and took a taxi.

lool Mooge forreal you get your knows from waagacusub? no wonder you can be ludicrous at times

Malistar the great propaganda artist, do you not go on holiday?

<cite> @DoctorKenney said:</cite> Why should Somaliland deserve 50% of the Ministers when they're not even 50% of the population? If you had a LITTLE fairness in you, you'd propose that Somaliland receives 33%. Because if Somaliland has 3 million people, and the whole of Somalia has 9 million, then that means they're 33% of Somalia. So why should they be given HALF of the authority? Whatever happened to one man one vote? Doctor, don't fuss Smartlander is a reasonable man. He started with 50% giving room for negotiation of course (= This is something we can work with.

Not that I am wishing ill upon Ethiopia, but you may made a claim so I must ask you to back it. What "grave consequences" will a civil war in Ethiopia have for "all Somalis in the Horn"??

Such discussion is futile unless you are at the table with UNPOS and IGAD I wouldn't waste your breath Doctor