Nudawn;848385 wrote: My pledge threatens the culture of clannism Ngonge and his ilk have worked soo hard to maintain. Theyve Filled a perfectly good forum with garbage, this forum represents the cesspool that is our community, Filled with degenerates And genocidal clanists, seperatist sympathisers, terrorists and an Abtigiis lol. Do you know the difference between good aids and bad aids? >>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNs2mOkKzc Clan discussions more often than not, are a way for friends to tease each other- in other words- there is good tribalism and bad tribalism.At lest this has been my experience. {off topic-Everyone should see Brasseye!}

I think we should be happy for these people and not cast aspersions on their work ethic (I'm looking at you Farah22). It wasn't long ago that they were being gassed and eradicated by Saddam's terror State. I'm happy they have been lucky to find natural resources that will alleviate their poverty.

Garnaqsi;848454 wrote: The-freeman, a great film indeed! 'An idea is a greater monument than a cathedral.' What more can be said? I'm looking forward to the remake with Harun Yahya, with Dr Zaki as his assistant!

Welcome comrade, I look forward to pelting you with (virtual) eggs, as is the custom.

Somali philosopher;848415 wrote: I would like your opinions on which department of business I should study. Accounting, marketing, management, or finance/economics. I am thinking about going to university of Minnesota Though I havent done a lot of research I am leaning on economics Disregard what OdaySomali says; do subjects that you like and enjoy. The departments you mentioned each specialise in a particular aspect of the business world. Perhaps you should do research on each of the choices and see if you prefer one over the other.

Abtigiis;848395 wrote: :D waa talo macquul ah! loooll @ the goatie!. Except that dating a younger girl is not the issue here, really! The "issue" would only be a problem if one is caught- a man in this business always has to have his bags packed and ready! Besides, you're providing a worthwhile "service", shall we say , to a section of society which appear to be in need of such.. erm..help. Put the morality on the back burner, I would!

Do as any man in your situation would do: date the girl, buy a stylish convertible, dye your hair jet black (unless bald of course) and top it off with one of those new age goatees. This is the only way through it! Good luck and post pictures

Blackflash;848312 wrote: No one is denying that people of faith have made great contributions to science, it's strange titles like Islamic science or the Catholic church claiming to have played a large role in enabling research that rubs me the wrong way. Don't confuse those who wish to keep the restrictive tentacles of religion at bay, with those who wish to restrict religion itself. I recently watched a documentary by Richard Dawkins on faith schools in England; In one Muslim school he visits, the (Muslim) teachers were teaching the kids to disregard any topic which clashes with their believes while ideas such as ' mountains hold up the world' were being taught to the kids as fact! watch here > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzJv-5yWx2g

Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar;848304 wrote: Ninkaan yaa saan loogu harin. He deserves a timely reply. I was looking for his email, couldn't find one. However, he is on Facebook. I am this very tempted u diro a piece of my mind. That last paragraph sinaba looguma hari karo and I would have missed it because I couldn't finish his amateurish writing. Then I saw what was quoted in this thread. Good idea!

Yunis;848318 wrote: aside from the petty tactics in presenting an argument, you are back to reinforcing your initial preconceived views. I didn’t expect superior persuasive arguments as to why the opposite is true. You accuse the believers of using science to justify as prove of their creator. And, yet, you claim the opposite is true and you are not able / willing to share this ‘superior’ rational insight that you’re privy to. You’re attempting to preemptively nullify believers for promoting science as testimony for the existence of a creator. Whilst, without explanation you state science proves the opposite. In this context, I suppose, you can now rationalize the origins of the big-bang dates back to scientific methods and experimentations and not a natural selection as your fellow militant atheist claim. It is not unusual for religious people to claim new scientific discoveries support their scriptures. All I'm saying is religion should not plagiarize science. Stick to your world view of 'mountains hold up the earth; Man was created from clay and (my favourite) the dead will rise'

burahadeer;848284 wrote: spaceship was created with muslim formula,huh. In defence of Islam:D Muslims often claim that they advanced early science; this is true but they often leave out the fact that they were building on the works of the ancient Greeks, Romans,Persian and Byzantine Empire. This is not to devalue the works of early Muslim scientists, they did what any good scientist would do: expand and test theories of others. Muslims should study history beyond the 7th century.

Yunis;848241 wrote: More pranks huh? Whats with equating Scientology founded by guy on seclusion in California desert in the mid 80’s and his Xenu with the asked question at hand of ‘explaining’ the clear prove of godless world due to finding of a small atom. ... I'll let you ponder the underlined part as I think you're intelligent enough to see the clear analogy (hint: guy; seclusion;desert). The bold part: I only asserted that the discovery should not be used by the religious as evidence that their god/s exists.I asserted this because often scientific findings are used by religious people as evidence their claims are true when in fact it is the opposite. If religious texts provide all the important answers about nature, what is the point of experimenting and coming up with testable theories? We should have known about evolution as soon as Jesus said " I'm the son of god". PS: being wheelchair bound or being crippled does not mean you lose the ability to be a rational human being. His body might be broken but his mind is free, free to think. Also watch The Life Of Brian, might help you answer the underlined part. peace.

The funny thing is if a Scientologist were to assert that Xenu created the world you'll redicule him/her as a lunatic. Yet you're no different to him/her. Funny that.

Mario B;848229 wrote: And how does the discovery of another sub atomic particle prove there is no God? Nothing can disapprove god/s do not exist. This is also the case for leprechauns, fairies, unicorns..... the list is endless. A rational mind would say I withold believe until clear evidence suffices.

Bluelicious;848223 wrote: You can't dress like that on a occassion like the Wimbledon fix up. Your much closer to the Wimbledon then me since you're a Londoner. So which round would you go to? I would go to the females opening match and men's closing one. But more realistically, whatever tickets I get as it is a lottery. You?

Mario B;848205 wrote: God is the originator of heavens and earth. Atheist and polytheist since time immemorial have given divine power to natural phenomena, no different here. The difference,as this experiment demonstrates, is one is verifiable while the other isn't. Oranges and apples, to use a cliche.

Nin-Yaaban;848174 wrote: Aww, now stop hating hating backflash. Leeboi here looks like a future brain surgeon. He has bright career ahead of him. Indeed! He'll be rappin patients to sleep and sooth them with the chorus when they wake up. Onward Master L!

tamer;848129 wrote: Stuff and nonsence Aka- I dun not reed to gud

I hope people do not misunderstand the discovery of the “God" particle means their deity has been scientifically proven. It is the opposite.

Lol , yes the famous Tallaabo boson.

Valenteenah.;848092 wrote: Freeman - Kenya is an Okay country but I wouldn't want to emulate their system. Just as I dislike oppression and dictatorship, I 'm not a fan of secularism either. I think the middle road is always the best , if that makes sense. . You mean a system like in England where the Anglican church is (somewhat) integrated into the political system but have no widespread powers? I think such a system would be acceptable. Islam could be the de facto religion of the State but the State cannot promote it absolutely and religion is not allowed to curtail scientific knowledge. This would be a good system

Valenteenah.;848083 wrote: ^ That's true. But Somalia can't compete with Western countries just yet. How about Kenya? it offers a good model to follow.

Valenteenah.;848080 wrote: I don't think religious equality can be forced on to a Muslim State. Don't get me wrong, people of other nationalities and other religions can live and do business in Somalia comfortably, just as so many are doing now in places like Muqdishu and Hargeysa, and so many did previously. And once peace is restored, the conditions will be even better. However the issue is what kind of religious freedom is being dictated? The kind where missionaries are free to do their business and athiests can spout their 'I was blind and now I can see' speeches? (LoL...couldn't help that dig). No, I'm afraid Somalia isn't the type of country and Somalis aren't the type of people laga faaideysankaro by missionaries et al sida Africa inteeda kale. Gaal diin kale faafinaya inuu Somalia ku badbaadayo uma maleenayo, taasii waa habeenkii xalay ahayoo tagay. Ka u horeeya uu ku tijaabiyo ayaa xabad ku dhufanaya - case in point, look at Sharmarke451 above already ready to kill at the mere mention of leaving the fold. Eesh calaa. Furthermore even in the 'free and fair' European countries, religious freedom and/or equality is somewhat restricted, i.e. you'll never hear the Eedaan in Europe, add to that banning of the hijab in some countries and previous campaigns to ban mosque building in others. The contitution is a Somali affair and it needs to fit the country, the people and the environement of Somalia. Mida kale, dhibaatooyinka dalka iyo shacabka haysta marka la eego, tani maba soo galayso, waayo basic needskii iyo basic rights-kii kaleba ma jiraan weli. Once there's a strong state and governance structure throughout the country, then something can be put in place to safeguard the rights of the People of the Book as Islam instructs. Imika meesha cidkasta waxay rabtaa inay ka faaidaysato wakhtigan isbedelka culus uu socdo, si gabo gabo inta wax walba lagu qabto hadhowna madaxa gacanta la saaro. You're right, Somalis cannot be forced to modernise but I will say those Somali Muslims living in Western countries, who are able to convert people, build mosques anywhere cannot say, without being hypocrites, no equality.

The best thing for all the religions is for the country to become secular. look at Kenya, its secular constitution allows all religions to prosper