Careful Xaaji, before your cousin Godane starts to get power-hungry and goes after Maamulka SNM

<cite> @SomaliaRising said:</cite> The inauguration of King Burhan Muse The XXXIV This king rules Puntland, Gedo,Jubbaland, SSC and parts of Galgaduud. I'm pretty sure he serves the same function as Queen Elizabeth of the U.K. But to be fair, I think most Somalis would prefer a King who has a vested interest in seeing Somalia become stable, rather than seeing the endless cycle of corrupt politicians in Mogadishu.

<cite> @malistar2012 said:</cite> Alshabaab are desperate the Gov has thwarted many terrorist plot . Sending ten young man on suicide mission only ending up killing themselves it's sign of defeat. this should be lesson to Alshaaydans foot soldiers and low ranking leaders only death bullet a waits you . This sort of unsuccessful terrorist plots will continue until top Alshabaab leaders are captured or killed . Malistar, do you think the Somali Government should conscript young men into their Army? Perhaps 1 young man from every single family Al Shaytaan seems to be getting desperate, definitely. But I think more should be done to punish their sympathizers and certain clan elders who seem to be sympathetic to Al Shabaab

<cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> Spot on intelligence proper coordination set up of well trained defense forces training training training is the most important. And the payment of the salaries on time and even at some stage increasing their salaries, proper structure in the command system. And get rid of these incompetent security ministers and interior ministers. And never integrate Alshabaab Militia into the Somalia army with out a long process of rehabilitation. But no one is serious about fixing the Somalia defense apparatus. Only to make a few bucks. A lot of diaspora Ministers who wear cheap 50 dollar suits think they can move to Somalia and become the "Minister of Security" when they don't know the FIRST thing about actually running the Security of a nation. It's an embarrassment. But increasing the salaries of Somali troops, paying them on time, disciplining them when it's necessary, recruiting young unemployed Somali graduates from Mogadishu University and training them and making them Officers, executing captured Shabab Chiefs immediately. Maybe the Government of Somalia could start a Conscription process, where they conscript 1 male from every single Somali household to the Army, and give him the training and salary and equipment he needs.

Xaaji, you would think that Somaliland and Puntland have the most to cooperate on, as they have much of the same interests, they're next-door to each other, they both have successful Government Administrations, they're in full control over their territory, etc. You'll get nothing from choosing not to cooperate with these folk, especially since you already cooperate with the Amhaaro regime and the Bantus in Kenya

<cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> Puntland rising its just Amiir Godane sending his 18 may gifts he is very generous u know. On a serious note Alshabaab is just showing its still strong this attack and the attack on villa Somalia is to show that they are still very active in the region and especially in the capital even thought he capital has so many troops protecting it. The Somali Capital needs to clean out the Al Shabab agents and it's sympathizers from within Mogadishu. A competent Somali Intelligence Agency is sorely needed

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> AS just is mocking the so called Government, it is embarrassing. On the other hands, this might get MPs do their 'job'. I don't think these MP's know the first thing about running a country. Maybe we should take tips from other successful administrations in the Horn of Africa. Al Shabab seems to be getting desperate

<cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> There is no dispute Puntland rising is funny lol In claiming to be from mogadishu . garowwdi yarayd wu sheegan karii waayey Then what's with your selective animosity towards Somalis from the Puntland clan? You don't feel this way towards the Bay&Bakool Somalis or the Hiiraan Somalis or the Jigjiga Somalis. What's the deal here Xaaji?

Smartlander entered this Forum and in his arrogant manner, tried to bully us and talk down to us. And in the end, he ended up angering not only HAG, but the Puntlanders, the Khaatumites, the Awdal clan, and the SNM guys. He pissed everyone off! Loooool what a loser!

Xaaji only dislikes the so-called "pirates" due to a land dispute between Puntland and Somaliland. And this dispute was created by the worthless British and Italians. May Allah give them what they deserve

<cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> Adnan pirates hate the peaceful coexistence between SL and Somalia. Because once that happens the piracy industry will end. You know very well you're being dishonest by saying such a thing. If Somaliland wants coexistence with the other Somalis, then it must be with ALL Somalis, including the so-called Pirates. Whereas HAG territory is hundreds of miles away, "Pirate" territory is right next-door to you.

<cite> @smartlander said:</cite> XaajiXundjuf wallahi I am more of a Somalilander than you. I did more for Somaliland than all Somalilanders on here. Don't call me a troll. Go ask the admin if my ip matches someone elses You're "more of a Somalilander" than Xaaji? Really? So is there a "Somalilander Scale" and there are ratings from 1-10, measuring who's more "Somalilander" and who's not? What score would Edna Adan get? Or Mo Farah? Or that Dahabshiil guy? Or Tallaabo? LOOOL And what have you done for Somaliland? Did you (in your marqaan-fueled rage) step on the necks of all the "filthy" Koonfurians with your mighty boots-of-wrath, and showed the Koonfurians their place?

<cite> @Tallaabo said:</cite> Come on, are you with us or with the terrorist? Hahahaha!! :D Let's just say I oppose CidanSultan's tough talk and I also oppose the tough-talk of some Koonfurians. Moderation is always the best route

<cite> @Tallaabo said:</cite> Yes surely Africa has a lot of young able-bodied men who can wield a machete and slice off the flesh of other able-bodied men for consumption. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2kCH1u7FoU I would say that the only way to deal with such savages is a harsh legal code with swift, harsh punishments and a strong deterrence to engaging in criminal acts. That's the only language these people understand: Violence. P.S. But of course they're only a small minority of Sub-Saharan Africa's population

I expect elders and politicians from all corners of Somalia to pledge their allegiance!! Long live the King!!

What's really shocking is that Smartlander is just coming out of his week-long May 18th celebrations, and in his marqaan-fueled "generosity".... decides to grant us a Union on such an unfair and ridiculous basis. And then calls us all terrorists and pirates. And then acts like he's doing us a favor. I have more respect for someone like Tallaabo or Xaaji who are very consistent in their approach and don't base Somaliland Nationalism on hatred or animosity towards Koonfurians. You could still be a pro-Somaliland Nationalist and still have concern for the Somalis living in the South. But no this guy Smartlander/CidanSultan is full of cuqduud and hatred. Warya tell your Uncles in the Somaliland Parliament of your bold new proposal. Actually tell it to people with power instead of talking tough on the internet. Let's watch you get laughed out of the room.

<cite> @smartlander said:</cite> Why should I care about people who want to discriminate me? And want to have all the political power? I dont care about Garissa or Djibouti but Ghelleh's subclan has 9 MPs in Mogadishu. Maybe thats why they are so concerned. They have bloated representation in a country they dont even live in Focus on your own affairs. Somaliland is gone LOOL What is wrong with you? Have you not visited the forum enough? I can't count the number of times SOL'ers have proposed that Hargeisa be the new capital of Somalia, and that our President should come from the Waqooyi region. Discriminate how? Where's the discrimination? Think for yourself

Why is Smartlander even mentioning Qabiil here, if he's claiming that the Somaliland Project is based on nationhood and the borders of the former British Protectorate in Somaliland? How is his Qabiil even relevant if everyone who lives within the borders of "Somaliland" is considered a Somalilander, thus making Qabiil totally irrelevant. What's wrong with him? Does he not see how he shoots himself in the foot. You just made it look like a Qabiil Project instead of a Nationalist Somaliland Project based on the former British Protectorate.

<cite> @smartlander said:</cite> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Somalia_ethnic_grps_2002.jpg That map is made by the Central Intelligence Agency. You can clearly see the discrimination you southerners do. In all honesty I dont care. Somaliland is gone. Instead of complaining about Somaliland, why dont you fix your country up? I rather be a khat addict than under the control of 20,000 AU troops. You have more bigger issues to deal with. Its quite pathetic. Talk to me when you have yout country under your control Talk to you about what? What is there to talk about, even when we do stabilize the entire Somalia? And why do you feel like you can divorce yourself from the present problems of Somalia, and not care about the fate of Somalia....whereas Mooge and Dr Osman who are from relatively peaceful regions of Somalia (Puntland) are concerned about what goes on in the South and their Southern brethren? Even our Djiboutian brothers and the ones who live in NFD have more concern than you. Why is that? Can you answer that question?

Maybe the old married couple Somalia/Somaliland should take a break and start seeing other people They'll get back together someday. True love never dies loool

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> This incessant attack against the people of Somaliland should not and will not be tolerated. The remnants of the Somali Nazi regime like Tillamook and Dr K should be shamed and made to apologize; few days in Mandhera couldn't hurt either. Long live the Republic of Somaliland and may its enemy choke on their pus. Are you going to deliver the same condemnation to SmartLander and his blatantly offensive remarks? What about the others? And since when is Tillamook's objection to Somaliland's secession, being termed as an "attack"? And why would that make him an "enemy" to the people of Somaliland?

Judging by the posts of CidanSultan and Smartlander (possibly the same person) I'm gonna make the strong proposal that Khat be banned from Somaliland and Djibouti. Khat was what divided our nation! I swear it is! This mirqaanism-fueled separatism is causing us so much pain and suffering. This Khat is filling them with delusions, it's really sad. I guarantee you that if Khat is banned, Somalia will be united again! You can bet on it!

Xaaji, stop attempting to make Somaliland look like some sort of Utopia where it resembles Finland or Sweden loool. Get yourself together adeer. But I would much rather support a Union of Somali Republics than forcing a Union down the throats of Reer Waqooyi/Toghdeer especially if they don't want it. That would only create resentment and could destabilize Somalia in the long run. If the well-being of Somali people is what we really want (ALL Somalis, regardless of where they live), then I think letting the people decide what type of governance and political structure they want is the best route. Instead of forcing it down their throats, which is something which will surely backfire. So I'd want a loose Federalism for Somalia (Puntland, Galmudug, Hiiraan, Jubbaland, etc.), and complete/total independence for the people of Somaliland.

<cite> @Xaaji Xunjuf said:</cite> Hawdian Doctor kenney is a strange character he does not come out as a person from laascanood i have never seen him write Somali. He sounds like a Koonfurian he never supports Khatumo like our resident garaad clan members aaliyaah libaan and the famous Taleexi. He sounds more a person from the central regions who likes the union with Somaliland but he has no identity with the north at all. Somaliland held a referendum and its binding in 2001 and its enshrined in the SL constitution , when Somaliland was uniting with Somalia the elites of SL decided to unite with Somalia no referendum was held in Somaliland. When the union did not work for Somaliland they withdrew from the union, they can do that because there is no law binding Somalia to Somaliland. Somaliland is and was never a region of Somalia. And if the international community forces us to Hold a New UN supervised referendum in order to obtain diplomatic recognition, It will always be with in the boundaries of Somaliland and that will always be for the legality not to show to any one the aspirations of SL , that is loud and clear. There's no need to make these arguments here Xaaji. You know very well that's not what we're talking about. And no one here is trying to deny Somalilanders their right to self-determination, as long as the majority of the residents there support it. The longer Somaliland has been "independent", the harder it'll be for reconciliation so I say let them separate. But then again my opinion doesn't really matter, since I'm young and in America and I don't hold any position of power in the Horn of Africa. And BTW, I rarely write Somali on this forum simply because I can understand Somali pretty well, but I can't write Somali well at all. And I don't want to look silly on this forum by attempting to write it My grammar is totally off-base, and unfortunately there is no structured Somali grammar classes which I can find online. So I'm stuck. Pretty simple really.

<cite> @smartlander said:</cite> Lol. Scared of the majority huh? I thought we were a "sub clan"... your emphasis on that word to make us look small? Districts kulaha. Even by districts, YES vote will be the majority in all. Thousands of people outside waving Somaliland flags in Las Anod and Borama isn't some. That's majority territory in those small towns. Khatuumo was born in Minneapolis hotel conference rooms and it died on Paltalk. Dont talk for people on the ground. If they truly didn't want Somaliland, we'd see some sort of opposition there. Not even a single political opposition has popped up in Las Anod. Not a simple peaceful demonstration of a few hundred, or even a few dozen Just goes to show you how out of touch you and your partygoers at the Hilton Airport Hotel and Suites really are The only areas that will not want to join would be some border tuulos with Puntland, too small to have their own district and would probably be in Puntland during referendum day to look for water for their goats. Again, and I've said this before: I'd have no problem with Somaliland seceding and forming their own Republic as long as the people on the ground in every part of Somaliland approve of it. Which is the same thing which happened in Quebec in Canada, although the referendum eventually failed and Quebec is still part of Canada. And I think Scotland is going through the same thing right now in the UK. And yes you're right. I'm not on the ground in Somaliland, so I have no right to tell the people of Sool/Sanaag/Awdal/etc what they can or can't do. If they choose to secede from the rest of Somalia, then that's on them. And I've said before I would support the separation of Somaliland but I would NEVER support an unfair Union like you just described here. But this arrogance, this mindset you have where you think you're doing the rest of Somalis a favor by giving them the privilege of sharing a nation with you. And then you propose a Union where Somaliland can restrict access to whoever they please, have their own armed forces which the South MUST pay for, and then also get 50% of the resources and benefits. With the "fair terms" you propose, you'd have a hard time finding ANYONE in Puntland or the South who would agree to such conditions. Wallahi I dare you to find someone. At least be like Xaaji, who's far more reasonable than you, and far less emotional. Separate yourself. Have some breathing space. And come back in 100 years and maybe we could have a genuine Union.