Tallaabo, I don't know and I don't care

<cite> @Tallaabo said:</cite> Dr K saaxiib you are missing the point. There is no debate about the fact that every society on earth has its fair share of racism and prejudice against other groups, but what makes the Arabs different to all others is that not only they openly look down upon poorer fellow Muslims in good times but they hypocritically use the Islam and "brother" card to globalise their problems and exploit the dimwits in other Muslim societies. You don't hear about Afghanis, Indonesians, Nigerians, Pakistanis, or even Somalis recruiting Arabs and other Muslims to join their internal conflicts. You don't see Arab jihadis rushing to defend their Muslim brothers in Burma and in the Central African Republic from systematic genocide. Where were our Arab jihadi brothers when George W Bush financed the Ethiopian army ("the infidel Christians") to massacre Muslim women and children in Mogadishu? Of course you don't hear many Arab imams crying about the suffering of their African or Asian brothers and sisters; but what you do hear are these Arab imams going on about Palestine, Iraq, Syria, and Egypt as if the entire Muslim ummah is found within just these few countries. LOL Are you telling me you never heard of the Arab fighters who traveled to Afghanistan in the 1980's to fight the Soviets? Or the Arabs who joined Al Shabab? Or the Arabs who fought in Sudan? You've got to be kidding me saaxib. And that's a complete lie, as I've heard many MANY sermons referencing the crimes in Central Africa and Burma. Just because you choose not to listen to it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. How are you going to make such a serious claim that Arab Muslims don't pay any attention at all to what's going on in Burma and Central Africa, when the facts say otherwise? Are you really that deluded?

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> c'mon holac.stop being melodramtic, iam sure you've seen the al aqsa mosque worshippers cheering when they hear sirens and rocket blasts hitting israel. i find the jews are very restrained despite the incredible venom and hatred directed towards them from their enemies. long live israel Lol

<cite> @Che -Guevara said:</cite> Aidid was a hothead, he met his end at the hands of a moryaan. Mindless Violence, which unfortunately Somalis associate with geesinimo, is not strength +1 !!!!!!

<cite> @Allyourbase said:</cite> Dude wtf are you on about, two companions of your beloved prophet, living in what you consider to be the best times of Islam opposed one another, and fought against each other. Seventy THOUSAND muslims that were companions of the beloved prophet died that day. That is your best generation, slaughtering each other and fighting like barbarians over control. Seeing ISIS today, they were not that different at all Okay

Abdi Qaybdiid buried 400 civilians alive during the 1990's, his opinion is absolutely worthless.

That is a blatant lie. That "Battle of Siffin" conflict was sparked by the assassination of Uthman (Muawiyah's cousin) and then further political tensions exacerbated the conflict between Ali and Muawiyah. It was a great Fitnah that the early Muslims had undergone.

<cite> @SomaliPhilosopher said:</cite> Doctoree-- you lack self-control--saying you are out and coming back to get the last word. IF you are out be out. and be less pretentious you are not a doctor in real life are you? No, I'm not a Doctor in real life And you wanna talk about me being pretentious, why don't you look at the posts of Xabad and Co.? But yes you're correct, and I'll try and restrain myself in the future inshaAllah

BTW even if it was true that the Office of the Caliphate should be restricted only to select members of the Quraysh tribe (and its not true. There have been Kurdish, Turkish and Persian Caliphs)....but even if it was true. So what? Is the Caliph not the servant of his people? Is the Office of the Caliphate something to be sought after, especially since the early Caliphs all refused to be appointed Caliph but were finally forced to accept the position of Caliph by their peers. Only one man is able to be Caliph at any given time, but for this Atheist to argue that this somehow means that so-and-so is superior is a desperate argument and he knows it. This guy looks at leadership as if its something to seek, as if its something to brag about. Leadership is a burden and not an accolade you're going for. And the Prophet's successors were Abu Bakr and Umar because they were his closest companions and the ones who had the most right to lead the community after his death. Al Mamun was Caliph during the 9th century, but Imam Shafii lived during the same time and he wasnt Caliph. So is Al Mamun (who was actually Persian/Arab) suddenly superior to Shafii or ibn Hanbal or any other righteous person simply by virtue of the Office he holds? In Islam leadership is a test and the burden of leadership often leads to the leaders committing the worst acts, earning them a place in Hell. What is wrong with him? Like I really don't understand

Lol Why should we answer your questions if you refuse to answer ours?

Khayr...I don't think you should entertain AllYourBases arguments. We've seen his behavior in this forum recently and in months past. His outright refusal to answer questions posed to him amounts to cowardice, especially since he wants to play the role of Questioner on this forum. Even if AllYourBase was to argue that Islam doesn't tell you to fast during Ramadan, then I wouldn't consider it worth my time to disprove him. Even something as obvious as this isn't worth taking about with AllYourBase He's not here to be educated saaxib he's here to troll. Give this guy the middle finger and place him on ignore

<cite> @Allyourbase said:</cite> Wahabi crybaby, dont hate the player sxb, it is your hirarchy-based religious dogma at fault here. All I am trying to do is free you. He is happy to say he is superior to Westerners but would never dare say he is superior to Arabs, his religion forbids it. Deep down he knows his place, a follower, a worshiper, a slave Help me help you dear Doctor Go to sleep.

Shut up AllYourBase. No one is gonna take your tired arguments very seriously, and since you always insist on having the last word, I expect some long-winded reply from you. You can't answer any of my questions yet you expect us to answer yours You're a joke saaxib. Get the hell outta my face

Its actually funny because the Progressive Seculars you see in America claim they're "better" than those right-wing Christians. And when they say "better" they mean their values and by extension the people who practice those values are "better". That talkshow host Bill Maher claims his values are "better" than the values of other civilizations, etc. I see the same thing with left-wingers like Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks, right-wingers like Sean Hannity from Fox News and even Diplomats like John Kerry and Condoleeza Rice.

Again, you're actually making claims against me you have no evidence of, and then you try so desperately to link me to those crazed radicals you see on CNN and BBC every night. Get out of my face AllYourBase, I already checked out of this convo a while ago. Have a nice day

Tallaabo, how is it that you citing incidents of Arab racism going to change my original post in the slightest? Did I not already acknowledge that yes, some Arabs are indeed racist? Are you not aware that Arabs are humans and some of them are going to be messed up and immoral? You're actually the one showing prejudice and racism against Arabs, and I dare you to approach the average Arab Muslim you see in the West and try and claim that he's a racist buffoon who hates all Black people. It's funny how you give White People the benefit of the doubt, even though we hear of constant stories of Greek racism, French racism, Italian racism, etc. And I showed you that Somalis are just as racist as Arabs and most other ethnic groups. But when it comes to Arabs, you don't wanna give them that benefit of the doubt. You wanna lump them into one category. And you conveniently forget that Arabs themselves are divided. Egyptians can't stand Gulf Arabs. Gulf Arabs hate Syrians. Lebanese Arabs don't like Jordanians, etc. When you're making an argument, it's best to know what you're talking about. P.S. If you wanna talk about "institutionalized racism" don't give me that garbage. You live in Europe presumably, and it's a very well-known fact that institutionalized racism exists in Europe, in India (it's a huge problem in India), in China, in Malaysia, in Nigeria, etc.

<cite> @Allyourbase said:</cite> You are lying my friend. There is no way you'd be saying this at school or work You're right. I don't go around school or work screaming "I'm Muslim, I'm better than you are!".....only a jackass would go around yelling something like that without reason. Not only is that un-Islamic, but it's extremely arrogant and off-putting. But yeah, I do make my pro-Islam views very public. But for you not to understand the difference shows to me you're trolling or you just don't understand human behavior.

<cite> @Allyourbase said:</cite> You little Wahabi wants us to believe you actually came out, that you go around spewing the same Wahabi dheecaan you try to spread here. Thats a lie and everyone can see that, for if you did your ass would be in Guantanamo bay this very second with your jihadi brothers. You absolutely do not go around telling White folk that you are superior to them because of Islam, waxaas hanoogu sheekayin beenlow yahow Try again, why do you stay in the West and go to school there when you hate it with such passion? Those who abandon this deceitful, hypocritical way of life and join their brothers in ISIS have the moral ground on you. a labowajiile like you who smiles every morning to your White classmates whilst secretly wishing for them to one day pay jizya to you and for their women to be your sex toys is sad existence. You just made the same accusations against me that I literally just rebuked you for. You've just blatantly lied against me yet again, with no evidence on your part, and you expect me to take you seriously. If there's anyone on this forum I have contempt for, it's you.

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> cool, you shouldn't have a problem with ISIS then and don't call them dogs. otherwise your a hypocrite i never implied that and you know it. don't be silly. authibillah kulaha. Wow....just wow. Your cognitive functions are either impaired, or you're just trolling right now.

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> Here is Dr kenney model islamist, morsi "When asked what he thought about many Christian Copts coming out to vote for his secular opponent, Ahmed Shafiq, Morsi reportedly said, “ They need to know that conquest is coming, and Egypt will be Islamic, and that they must pay jizya or emigrate .” kennedy tries to hoodwink us with aqeedah and fiqh, words he hopes big enough to confuse. do you still support sharia ? yes or no I whole-heartedly support Shariah and I believe it's the best method when it comes to governing society and everyday life. "Using big words".....Authubilah. How is Aqeedah and Fiqh big words? Xabad, I don't explain myself to the likes of you, you explain yourself to the likes of me. You can't answer a single question posed to you and yet you want me to be in a defensive position against you? Who the hell do you think you are?

Xabad, your knowledge of Islam is so little that I couldn't be bothered to even discuss with you the fundamentals of Shariah. You're the same clown who believed that in Islam we worship the Moon, and that "the crescent-moon is the symbol of Islam, so therefore Muslims worship the Moon"....but when I showed you that the crescent-moon has nothing to do with our religion, your little mind couldn't comprehend that so you argued even more. You know nothing about Islamic Aqeedah and Fiqh, and I'm not here to play the role of educator, but just to inform you that the vast majority of Muslims, especially the ones who are learned, are vehemently against ISIS. I consider it beneath me to reply to the likes of you. I only debate my equals, everyone else I teach.

<cite> @xabad said:</cite> i find dr kenney stance vis-a-vis ISIS hypocritical. he says he wants sharia, and then criticizes the same people who are applying it just because they chopped off a few heads and enforced jizya on christians. You wouldn't know what hypocrisy is even if it were staring at you in the face. I find Xabad's stance very hypocritical. He says he's "for secularism" but yet he opposes the secular regimes of Josef Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein and Kim Jong Il! The hypocrisy is unbelievable!

For Tallaabo to constantly cite the racism of the Arabs is outright dishonesty. You should visit Malaysia and see racism, you should see Chinese racism, or Italian racism against Blacks. Or even Russian racism where foreigners are KILLED in broad daylight. But he wants to reference Arab racism, because in reality he wants to discredit Arabs in the eyes of all Blacks and Somalis, as if discrediting Arabs is going to do ANYTHING for Islam. It's ridiculous. Arabs are less than 20% of the Muslim Ummah, some are good, some are bad, and some are in-between. Arabs are humans just like everyone else and they have their weaknesses. But for Tallaabo to complain about Arab racism, as if other people aren't racist, shows me his outright dishonesty. Why doesn't he tell me about Somalis and their racism towards Bantu Somalis? Or their racism towards Midgaan Somalis or Reer Xamar Somalis? What a hypocrite wallahi!!!

This is amazing news wallahi. Hopefully, those who work in Puntland can focus more on gaining actual skills instead of relying on their Uncle to find them a job. This will be better for everyone in Puntland

American Journalist James Foley was beheaded by these ISIS thugs, and they posted the beheading on the internet!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28876994 This is just disturbing. What kind of rationale is there to behead a journalist, out of all people, and then have the nerve to record the execution and then post it online? May Allah give these ISIS thugs what they deserve