Carafaat;936390 wrote: Allow garbaharay iyo gedo guula nooga keen Allow geeljirayashi NFD ehelo Kikiyu geyiga nooga ka kexee Allow Somaliya Guuleyste hantiya gudaha gedo ka keen Allow Geesiga siyad wala tabay eh fariin qabriga ugu gee Allow Garawshiyo ama onkod galaba, kikuyada dalka nooga kexe Allow geel raacayasha goday ,halyey gaashaanka ku dhufta u keen Allow Somali garnaqsi bay u bahantahay Gacal gedo ka yimi no keen Allow Geedi socodka Somali budcad garowe ka yimi dalka nooga kexee Allow Halyey goodiya sidi Emir nur Luq ganane nooga keen very sick indeed. what is the connection between separatist and Jubaland creation, that makes them wish habaar and destruction to Konfurians as they say?

Jacaylbaro;931663 wrote: He doesn't want to admit he was molested dee ,,, typical Somali ,, wax fahan lol yep i'm typical Farah:cool:

Malika;931651 wrote: ^Are you sure you were 13? ama ku qaldantee your 'iisdiib age' to your real age. I teach 13yr olds, cant see nor believe they have the ability to seduce a 'popular' woman of aged 25! naga daa yakhii.. lol isdhiib age:cool: its hard to explain woman as general (young,older, sometimes really old) and I had thing going (not sexual) when I was younger then that, they always sought my company.

Malika;931649 wrote: ^I bet the 25yr old was a social awkward sort of a woman, iyadaa baa wax kaa sii aah - hence the molester label. Anyway, waa sidhii ee tirii GG, illahi ceebtinaa iyo teenu baa haa astuuro. I know and it looks like that but I was way much mature then my age group, I had girlfriend who was about 17yrs and she was awkward like I was then pure novice. the lady was far from awkward she was most popular in my neighborhood, was very much respected too, i was always the one who was the right time and the right place all the time she resisted while, blame on testosterone.

Malika;931643 wrote: ^That sounds like molestation, it matters not the colour of the skin of the molester - you were molested. Noooooooooo trust me it was not at all, I was not that innocent.

How about if your first time your 13 yrs old and she is 25 yrs old and somali? only cadaan allowed?

Wadani;930077 wrote: Beed (Arabic)= Ukun Bisad (Somali)= Mukulaal oldest Somali word for cat older then Arabic language.

big improvement if the argument we have now is duel track policy and what it means for Somalia and also people in Hargeisa are more realistic now and not deluded any more to unobtainable recognition.

Mintid Farayar;929499 wrote: Naxar, I think you're grasping at straws here. But if it will make you feel better, the U.S. is no closer to recognizing Somaliland so you can rest on that score( at least in the near future) Now, as for your Clinton posting above: The Sec of State was asked a question re:the dual track policy and proceeded to diplomatically side-step it. This is understandable since it was a day to showcase the recognition of the Mogadishu-based Somali National Government. It would be bad form to cloud that with inconvenient facts about other Somali players the U.S. deals directly with. Fast forward to this week and a sit-down interview with the U.S. Special Representative for Somalia(which is the actual level where tactical Somali policy is set; we're not significant enough to make it to the Secretary level). He was asked a direct question by someone who seemed actually aware of the U.S. double-dealing(for lack of a better term) in having a direct relationship with Somaliland. The Ambassador was as direct as diplomatically allowed: We, the U.S., are in alignment with current U.N. and A.U. policy regarding recognizing Mogadishu as the nominal gov't of Somalia; however at the same time, we'll continue dealing directly with Somaliland (intimating its separate, special status within the former Somalia). Note all the praise for its stellar accomplishments the Ambassador heaps on Somaliland - while all he can say for the rest of the former Somalia is to simply herald the recognition of the Mogadishu gov't, an act bestowed by the Americans. So, my dear friend, as we've told the gallery countless times, Somaliland's accomplishments are there for the whole world to see and still remains the only example the world can point to of Somalis actually achieving something collectively when it comes to governance. Contradicting yourself again, what makes you think anyone is unhappy with the duel track Humanitarian assistance policy to Somalia at these stages?. I don't know any Somali who is unhappy Hargeisa having a good governance as well. what is the fuss?

Xaaji Xunjuf;929474 wrote: ^^ She never really touched on that issue in specific words own goal

Mintid Farayar;929368 wrote: In the spirit of the weekend fun, I thought I would transcribe the Ambassador's statement for my SOL friends unable to view video on their systems. It starts at 5:41 for those able to view the video file. Enjoy ______________________________________________ {Question} How does the U.S. government reconcile recognizing the SFG as the official government of Somalia while at the same time dealing directly with Somaliland? {Amb. Swan} The U.S. and many other international partners, certainly, have great respect for the efforts made by the Somaliland people over a number of years in terms of maintaining a high degree of stability in the Somaliland territory, in terms of impressive gains on the governance front including holding a number of elections that have been of a high standard and certainly also with respect to efforts that have been made by that population to improve their economy and livelihoods. The U.S., certainly, intends to continue its engagement with the Somaliland population and administration in terms of humanitarian response, in terms of reconstruction and development activities, and in terms of our shared governance agenda. [ I] At the same time, the United States position is fully consistent with the United Nations, the African Union, the neighboring countries of Somalia, in terms of recognizing the national government in Mogadishu and in January, President Hassan Sheikh Mahamoud visited Washington and there was a formal exchange of notes with then-Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton that re-established formal U.S. recognition of Somalia for the first time since 1991. So our position is very much consistent with the African Union position, the UN position in terms of recognition of the Somali National Government yet we also want to continue our engagement and relationship with Somaliland for the benefit of that population . [/b] Humanitarian assistance for the people who are held hostage to separatist dream I see nothing wrong with that. The message is very clear, whats your take ?

Whats is this love affair with Separatist and Jubaland?

"Things fall Apart" Great book every African Must read.

Xaaji Xunjuf;925000 wrote: Raamsade you have no clue what you are talking about the Somali ancestry doesn't come from one place but several places and ofcourse some indigenous to the Somalia some go beyond Somalia.The notion of using the African origin its self is very flawed what is an African origin you sound like those African Americans who think Africa is a country or a city state, the sub clades and different haplogroups proves that the so called ethnic Somalis come from different origins but some how with the rise of islam they assimilated and formed one identity, because they were the few only Muslims in the Horn, the Somali identity is very wide open for every one can be a Somali, you speak Somali you can be a Somali, yet you can come from north Sudan south Sudan or Ethiopia, Kenya it doesn't matter these are not my opinions these are genetics speaking for themselves. this is your opinion

Somalis n stands number of people tested. n A B E1a E1b1a E1b1b E2 J R1b T 201 0.5 1.0 0 1.5 81.1 0.5 3.0 R1a=1 10.4 Sanchez2005 Somalis have hightest E1b1b = 81.1 and the lowest arab YDNA J= 3.0 in this study.

Somalis n stands number of people tested. n A B E1a E1b1a E1b1b E2 J R1b T 201 0.5 1.0 0 1.5 81.1 0.5 3.0 R1a=1 10.4 Sanchez2005

Xaaji Xunjuf;924524 wrote: And then there is the E1b1b1a also found in large portion of Somalia fake again

Xaaji Xunjuf;924508 wrote: This is the J1 originates from Russia Hahahah loving the arabs? this map is fake so the next one. all test done Somalis have lowest J1 and J2. less %2.

according the last genetics study Somalis are most homogeneous nation. 98% of us carry African YDNA only less then 2% carry Arab YDNA, a hint coastal Somal-arab people.

Gabbal;923224 wrote: Interesting that Oba is so versed. Suldaan Bashiir Madoobe Yaroow is the highest traditional leader of the Gedo clan in Kismaayo. The Sultan's family have one of the longest histories in the town and have many landmarks to their names including Hotel Xareed and Masjid Yaroow. The day before the elders of the clan at the Sultan's house in Kismaayo refused to attend the opening of the conference and here is the spokesman of the elders announcing why: http://saadaalnews.com/2013/02/28/dhagayso-odayaasha-beesha-****-oo-ka-hadlay-shirkii-maanta-ka-furmay-kismaayo/ Similarly the Garbahaaray has brought a major point of agreement that supports the elder's meeting in Kismaayo which says the land must be freed first and this conference is being rushed for ulterior reasons. Dhanaan asks why has the Prime Minister changed his mind so forcefully but they are not taking into consideration developments from major stakeholders who have caused the Prime Minister to politically put the breaks in order to give time so major issues will reach consensus. I don't believe it is the President so much, because his views were certainly present before, but rather developments from major stakeholders to reach consensus. Gabal whats your take Gedo folks opposition to the Jubaland state? do they support strong central Gov?

My understanding there is definitely some connection between the arrival of Islam in Somalia and organised Somali Qabiil names, before that you identified with your profession. as they say Toll waa tolane.

wyre;922574 wrote: lOoool@ mukur I even don't know what mukur is Malika the girl says that she told him that she doesn't want him, coz the man is married to a woman and has children, she also is a wadaad type of a woman. I don't care she loves him or whatever, for me even the one I loved, i didn't use talk to her more than 10 mins, by the way what should i tell her that 2 hrs . agree she doesn't like him so she uses him for phone sex maybe? in saudi sax? wa fahan yaakhii

1955 yesterday sax??

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she hates him.